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03-10-2007, 05:33 PM

Hi guys, as some of you know I want to have my own solo site, and I'm looking for the right company to build and manage it.

I am open to any kind of offer, but the deal I have in mind is something like this:

- I send you enough content to build and update the site
- I do live cam shows
- I keep a diary
- I help promoting the site

- You design and build the site and promo stuff
- You promote the site
- Your affiliates promote the site

We split the profits 50/50 , or you pay me a fixed monthly amount.

I will need some money upfront to cover my initial costs.

I have a couple of offers like that already, but I want to go with the best company possible, so lets talk!

I cant post links yet, so Tuga will post the pics for me in a sec, and you can use his ICQ to talk with me, he's helping me out.
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03-10-2007, 05:34 PM

This thread is useless without pics!

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03-10-2007, 05:40 PM

how much content do you have already or how much are you capable of shooting?
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03-10-2007, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Lika19

We split the profits 50/50 , or you pay me a fixed monthly amount.

Gross or net? Or what kind of monthly amount?
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03-10-2007, 05:41 PM

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03-10-2007, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by cj_purve

how much content do you have already or how much are you capable of shooting?

I am shooting 100 photos sets so we can pick 50 good ones for each set, I have 6 sets now and I plan to shoot a lot more next week.

But whoever runs my site will tell me how many pics per set and how many initial sets and updates they need. I'm just starting, I want to partner with someone with experience running solo girl sites.

I want to take a week every couple of months and shoot a bunch of sets.
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03-10-2007, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by Shoehorn!

Gross or net? Or what kind of monthly amount?

I dont know how much the site can make, so I'm asking for your offers. You tell me how much I'm worth
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03-10-2007, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by BV

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Please ICQ Tuga, I dont have ICQ yet. He will be looking at all the offers and help me pick the best one.
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03-10-2007, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by Lika19

I dont know how much the site can make, so I'm asking for your offers. You tell me how much I'm worth

Well, you said you wanted a 50/50 partnership OR a monthly amount.

Lets assume someone offered you the 50/50 deal, would you expect to get paid half of the gross or half of the net income from the site?
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03-10-2007, 05:52 PM

Solo stuff only or will you be doing girl/girl and boy/girl, bjs etc?

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03-10-2007, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by GetNaughty

Solo stuff only or will you be doing girl/girl and boy/girl, bjs etc?

I forgot to mention that.

I do solo, fully nude, toys, and girl/girl.
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03-10-2007, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by Lika19

I have 6 sets now and I plan to shoot a lot more next week.

Also - it might be hard for you to find a program willing to pay you upfront so you can shoot more sets when you only have 6 to begin with.
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03-10-2007, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by Shoehorn!

Well, you said you wanted a 50/50 partnership OR a monthly amount.

Lets assume someone offered you the 50/50 deal, would you expect to get paid half of the gross or half of the net income from the site?

I expect half the net income (that's the profit after paying all expenses, right?). Unless someone says I should get more
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03-10-2007, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by Shoehorn!

Also - it might be hard for you to find a program willing to pay you upfront so you can shoot more sets when you only have 6 to begin with.

I said I am shooting more next week... I need upfront, I dont need it today.
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03-10-2007, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by Lika19

I dont know how much the site can make, so I'm asking for your offers. You tell me how much I'm worth

what he's asking i believe is would the split be money generated - Affiliate payouts / hosting ... and so on .. you would need a definition of what expenses would be coming out of total monies generated from the site.

I've done a few deals like this in the past and it works out OK as long as you can keep up with the content demands .. I'd be willing to talk to you about some of the past deals I've done and sites i"ve run. I currently own both www.mobbucks.com and www.satancash.com. I'm sure we could find a nice partnership in one of the programs for you. and we do have experience running solo girl sites.

feel free to contact me if you just need advice or want to work together. Email: mikevega(a)satancash.com

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03-10-2007, 05:59 PM

Anybody who would take this deal is a boob.

Tho, the chick is cute, I'll give her that.

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03-10-2007, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Lika19

I said I am shooting more next week... I need upfront, I dont need it today.

I know, I am just trying to help you out.

For example, if you have 6 sets right now, what happens if you make a deal with a program, they front you $5k, you shoot another 5 sets then decide you don't like being naked all over the internet and quit? They're out $5k and don't have enough content to even open the site.

I am not saying thats going to happen, I am just saying that a lot of program owners might be cautious about stuff like that.
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03-10-2007, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by Shoehorn!

I am not saying thats going to happen, I am just saying that a lot of program owners might be cautious about stuff like that.

No, no that's GOING to happen, heh.

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03-10-2007, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by MikeVega

what he's asking i believe is would the split be money generated - Affiliate payouts / hosting ... and so on .. you would need a definition of what expenses would be coming out of total monies generated from the site.

I've done a few deals like this in the past and it works out OK as long as you can keep up with the content demands .. I'd be willing to talk to you about some of the past deals I've done and sites i"ve run. I'm sure we could find a nice partnership in one of the programs for you. and we do have experience running solo girl sites.

feel free to contact me if you just need advice or want to work together. Email: mikevega(a)satancash.com

I understand what he asked, but as you said, you already have past deals made, so you know what's fair and what you are willing to pay. I dont have any past experience, so I know roughly what I want, but I'm open to any offer.

Maybe I expect too much, maybe not enough... that's what I want to find out here

I will send you an email, tks.
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03-10-2007, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by jimmy-3-way

Anybody who would take this deal is a boob.

Want to explain why?

I kind of like boobs...

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03-10-2007, 06:09 PM

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03-10-2007, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by Tuga

Want to explain why?

I kind of like boobs...

I like boobs too, man.

The thing of it is when you weigh the costs of putting together a solo girl site and the investment necessary to make it work versus the risk involved in having some chick in who knows what country with who knows what situation claiming she'll shoot her own shit...it's a no brainer.

Not worth it in any way.

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03-10-2007, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by Shoehorn!

I know, I am just trying to help you out.

For example, if you have 6 sets right now, what happens if you make a deal with a program, they front you $5k, you shoot another 5 sets then decide you don't like being naked all over the internet and quit? They're out $5k and don't have enough content to even open the site.

I am not saying thats going to happen, I am just saying that a lot of program owners might be cautious about stuff like that.

That WONT happen because I never asked for $5k upfront. I can deliver 15-20 sets by the end of next week, and I just need around $1k payed at that time to cover for hotel rooms, travelling, etc...

Then you pay me whatever the deal is every month, I just cant spend all the money it will take to make the content and wait until the site makes money to start getting it back.

I dont know much, but I know something (at least Tuga knows), whoever buys my content wont be taking any big risks with me I'm here to make some money and keep making it for some time.

My face on the net wont be a problem, I was a stripper and I worked on webcams and I really dont care what anyone thinks about it. Also, my boyfriend knows I'm doing this.
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03-10-2007, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Lika19

That WONT happen because I never asked for $5k upfront. I can deliver 15-20 sets by the end of next week, and I just need around $1k payed at that time to cover for hotel rooms, travelling, etc...

Then you pay me whatever the deal is every month, I just cant spend all the money it will take to make the content and wait until the site makes money to start getting it back.

I dont know much, but I know something (at least Tuga knows), whoever buys my content wont be taking any big risks with me I'm here to make some money and keep making it for some time.

My face on the net wont be a problem, I was a stripper and I worked on webcams and I really dont care what anyone thinks about it. Also, my boyfriend knows I'm doing this.

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03-10-2007, 06:15 PM

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03-10-2007, 06:16 PM

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Yes.

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03-10-2007, 06:16 PM

Shoehorn.. you're in Hawaii? Where abouts?

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03-10-2007, 06:18 PM

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03-10-2007, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by jimmy-3-way

I like boobs too, man.

The thing of it is when you weigh the costs of putting together a solo girl site and the investment necessary to make it work versus the risk involved in having some chick in who knows what country with who knows what situation claiming she'll shoot her own shit...it's a no brainer.

Not worth it in any way.

I understand your point completely, but I do believe she will deliver. But dont take my word for it, I could be wrong. What I expect you to do is, sign a contract, ask for a lot of content fast, and be happy knowing that you have enough content to keep the site online even if she quits.

Being far from the girl may even be a good thing, I have to put up with her shit, you dont

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03-10-2007, 06:22 PM

I will contact everyone, at least you know I wont disappear anytime soon, if my post count and join date are worth anything.

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03-10-2007, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by Lika19

Yes.

I hear even porn webmasters get into solid relations sometimes.

Yeah, but thats not what I am talking about.

Most strippers have "stripper mentality," they're so used to guys kissing their asses and telling them how great they are all the time that after awhile they refuse to take any advice/think they have all the answers. A lot of photogs refuse to work with strippers because its such a hassle.

Also, the boyfriend thing is usually bad news with solo girl sites. The boyfriend gets jealous or whatever and decides that the girl needs to decide between him or the site.
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03-10-2007, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by jimmy-3-way

I like boobs too, man.

The thing of it is when you weigh the costs of putting together a solo girl site and the investment necessary to make it work versus the risk involved in having some chick in who knows what country with who knows what situation claiming she'll shoot her own shit...it's a no brainer.

Not worth it in any way.

But your saying anyone that would make a deal with her is a boob without knowing the facts ... She could be local to one of my Photogs or a million other things. I may require 100 pr 200 sets before even designing the site. It's all open and that's why you speak in length with the young lady and find out the facts. There is a 100 ways to make this deal and some of them could be worth it. I haven't even seen the quality of the photos or spoken to whomever is shooting her. every opportunity is worth a phone call. only a Boob would just pass without taking the time to explore the options.

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03-10-2007, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by Tuga

I understand your point completely, but I do believe she will deliver. But dont take my word for it, I could be wrong. What I expect you to do is, sign a contract, ask for a lot of content fast, and be happy knowing that you have enough content to keep the site online even if she quits.

Being far from the girl may even be a good thing, I have to put up with her shit, you dont

Dude if you can convince someone to send $1k to Portugal...well god bless you because the only thing more immoral than stealing is letting a sucker keep his money.

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03-10-2007, 06:24 PM

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Shoehorn.. you're in Hawaii? Where abouts?

I am in Germany right now, but in Hawaii I live in Waikiki.
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03-10-2007, 06:24 PM

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03-10-2007, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by MikeVega

But your saying anyone that would make a deal with her is a boob without knowing the facts ... She could be local to one of my Photogs or a million other things. I may require 100 pr 200 sets before even designing the site. It's all open and that's why you speak in length with the young lady and find out the facts. There is a 100 ways to make this deal and some of them could be worth it. I haven't even seen the quality of the photos or spoken to whomever is shooting her. every opportunity is worth a phone call. only a Boob would just pass without taking the time to explore the options.

Hey, I'm not your business advisor, if you think it's worth it, go for it. I wouldn't touch this deal with a ten meter pole.

I would think long and hard about giving cash upfront to a 19 year old solo girl who lived across the street from my Momma, let alone across the Atlantic Ocean.

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03-10-2007, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by jimmy-3-way

Hey, I'm not your business advisor, if you think it's worth it, go for it. I wouldn't touch this deal with a ten meter pole.

I would think long and hard about giving cash upfront to a 19 year old solo girl who lived across the street from my Momma, let alone across the Atlantic Ocean.

Dude .. I don't know anything about the deal she wants and never said i would send her money in advance .. All I said is that I would talk to her about what she thinks she can do and what I'd be willing to offer. I can tell you right now that I would not send any money for content. I would cover costs for site and marketing material and run and market it. But is she is looking for 50% she'd be covering the cost to shoot. and production on the site wouldn't start till i had a shit load of content. Maybe she just needs to her options.

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03-10-2007, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by Shoehorn!

Yeah, but thats not what I am talking about.

Most strippers have "stripper mentality," they're so used to guys kissing their asses and telling them how great they are all the time that after awhile they refuse to take any advice/think they have all the answers. A lot of photogs refuse to work with strippers because its such a hassle.

Also, the boyfriend thing is usually bad news with solo girl sites. The boyfriend gets jealous or whatever and decides that the girl needs to decide between him or the site.

Ok, no comments about that stripper theory

About the boyfriend, if he makes decide between him and something I want to do, he's gone. But he is VERY open minded, so dont worry.
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03-10-2007, 06:48 PM

Your location Lika? Rough location is fine.
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03-10-2007, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by jimmy-3-way

Dude if you can convince someone to send $1k to Portugal...well god bless you because the only thing more immoral than stealing is letting a sucker keep his money.

Ok, you're an idiot.

I got a lot more sent to Portugal over the years, and I sent a lot more from Portugal as well. The only time there was a problem, I was the one who lost my money.

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03-10-2007, 06:50 PM

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Dude .. I don't know anything about the deal she wants and never said i would send her money in advance .. All I said is that I would talk to her about what she thinks she can do and what I'd be willing to offer. I can tell you right now that I would not send any money for content. I would cover costs for site and marketing material and run and market it. But is she is looking for 50% she'd be covering the cost to shoot. and production on the site wouldn't start till i had a shit load of content. Maybe she just needs to her options.

That's all well and good, I'm not accusing you of anything. But she says right in the first post what deal she wants and she specifically says 'money upfront'.

My point being merely that anybody who sends money upfront to any model at all deserves what they get. If they get ripped, they deserve it for being stupid. If they happen to discover the next Lia19, then I guess they deserve the success for being balls out daring.

I'm of the opinion that the former would be the likely outcome and thus I think anybody who would do it is a boob. There are way, way, way too many ifs.

How are you even going to write an enforceable contract with a foreign national? What's the best you could get if it goes bad? A default judgment in your home jurisdiction? That makes a contract about as useful as toilet paper. So you are entering into a business deal based on the word of a hot 19 year old stripper?

Maybe I'm too risk averse...

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03-10-2007, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by MikeVega

Dude .. I don't know anything about the deal she wants and never said i would send her money in advance .. All I said is that I would talk to her about what she thinks she can do and what I'd be willing to offer. I can tell you right now that I would not send any money for content. I would cover costs for site and marketing material and run and market it. But is she is looking for 50% she'd be covering the cost to shoot. and production on the site wouldn't start till i had a shit load of content. Maybe she just needs to her options.

When I said upfront, I mean you pay me AFTER I deliver the initial content and sign the contract, but BEFORE the site is up and running and making sales. So I dont have to wait a long time AFTER I spend my money and do my work. I dont see anything risky with that
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03-10-2007, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by jimmy-3-way

That's all well and good, I'm not accusing you of anything. But she says right in the first post what deal she wants and she specifically says 'money upfront'.

I dont ask for that much money, and I dont want it before the content is ready. And I say on my first post that I want to get offers, even if it's not exactly what I expect. If you're not interested, go do something else
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03-10-2007, 06:55 PM

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Your location Lika? Rough location is fine.

I am shooting in Portugal, but I live in Belgium.
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03-10-2007, 06:57 PM

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If you're not interested, go do something else

Oh SNAP.

Well you got me. I'm out.

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03-10-2007, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by jimmy-3-way

That's all well and good, I'm not accusing you of anything. But she says right in the first post what deal she wants and she specifically says 'money upfront'.

My point being merely that anybody who sends money upfront to any model at all deserves what they get. If they get ripped, they deserve it for being stupid. If they happen to discover the next Lia19, then I guess they deserve the success for being balls out daring.

I'm of the opinion that the former would be the likely outcome and thus I think anybody who would do it is a boob. There are way, way, way too many ifs.

How are you even going to write an enforceable contract with a foreign national? What's the best you could get if it goes bad? A default judgment in your home jurisdiction? That makes a contract about as useful as toilet paper. So you are entering into a business deal based on the word of a hot 19 year old stripper?

Maybe I'm too risk averse...

I never said i would go near the deal she had in mind. she said she was open to other deals and didn't know what type of deals were out there.

Lets say she's killer hot and the content looks good. I have her produce 100/200 pic/video sets. then i give her a small amount of money to help her cover her costs. at this point i own the domain and the content and pay her a % to stay exclusive and to produce content. the worst that can happen is she flakes and I have a site that has 200 sets i can rotate with a content management system. I'm not saying she would go for that deal but maybe I'd only be willing to offer something like that. How am i getting fucked in that one ..

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03-10-2007, 07:07 PM

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03-10-2007, 07:12 PM

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I never said i would go near the deal she had in mind. she said she was open to other deals and didn't know what type of deals were out there.

Lets say she's killer hot and the content looks good. I have her produce 100/200 pic/video sets. then i give her a small amount of money to help her cover her costs. at this point i own the domain and the content and pay her a % to stay exclusive and to produce content. the worst that can happen is she flakes and I have a site that has 200 sets i can rotate with a content management system. I'm not saying she would go for that deal but maybe I'd only be willing to offer something like that. How am i getting fucked in that one ..

You are not getting fucked

I emailed you. I may even put some of my money upfront to help her cover the costs if we find a good deal and that is a problem.

However if you want her to deliver a lot of content, and good quality stuff, there will be expenses. She wants to shoot in this fancy hotel room that costs $400 a night... there's a jacuzzi, a huge round bed, and some other shit there. Enough to make 5 different sets maybe. But she doesnt have the money, so what's wrong with paying that bill for her AFTER she shoots there? That's just an example, we are looking for a partnership, so if you want to be a partner you have to show her some love.

Go Fuck Yourself!

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03-10-2007, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by Tuga

You are not getting fucked

I emailed you. I may even put some of my money upfront to help her cover the costs if we find a good deal and that is a problem.

However if you want her to deliver a lot of content, and good quality stuff, there will be expenses. She wants to shoot in this fancy hotel room that costs $400 a night... there's a jacuzzi, a huge round bed, and some other shit there. Enough to make 5 different sets maybe. But she doesnt have the money, so what's wrong with paying that bill for her AFTER she shoots there? That's just an example, we are looking for a partnership, so if you want to be a partner you have to show her some love.

I'll contact you after i get the email and we can talk details ...

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