US government declares war on piracy - strategy plan released.

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  • TheDoc
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 13827

    #51
    Originally posted by Agent 488
    what does "illegal downloading" refer to genius? bootleg watches?
    Which illegal porn download sites are counterfeiting porn and selling access to them? I'm sure you can report those to the counterfeiting task force.

    If a site ignores your take down notices you have every right to sue, win a judgement and enforce that judgement on the domain registrars, if it has to go that far.

    What you/we can't stop is someone counterfeiting your goods, not that it's happening much with online porn - but it does happen.
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    • gideongallery
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2003
      • 7082

      #52
      Originally posted by GatorB
      Just a point to make here. Just because they had record profit doesn't mean piracy didn't still have an effect. Maybe they would have had 12% profit or whatever.

      if I have $100 in my wallet and someone takes $10 it doesn't mean I didn't get $10 stolen just because I still have $90 in my wallet.
      if it was money taken out of the wallet they would know the losses
      it like if someone put money in your wallet

      except they put 90 instead of a 100.

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      • GatorB
        The Demon & 12clicks
        • Oct 2001
        • 18208

        #53
        Originally posted by gideongallery
        if it was money taken out of the wallet they would know the losses
        it like if someone put money in your wallet

        except they put 90 instead of a 100.
        figures you were too obtuse to get the gist of my point.

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        • NetHorse
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2006
          • 3526

          #54
          I've been saying this for years, everyone always argues, "piracy can't be stopped". Well, no, it can't be stopped, but when the laws are changed it can be greatly reduced.


          It doesn't matter what form of piracy they've specifically targeted today, this is just the beginning.

          In my opinion this is what will happen in the next 1-3 years.

          First congress will pass a bill for "reasonable network management practices". In other words content filtering to stop unlawful activity over the internet.

          Next there will be a "panel" created. This panel will determine what sites are breaking U.S. laws.

          Once a site is determined to be breaking laws it will be filtered through all the major telecommunication giants in the United States, and they will be GLAD to comply.

          This will not solely be to stop piracy and other unlawful activity. Like everything, it will be a major political move and I guarantee it will come at a huge cost to our, (people in the United States) freedom on the internet.

          Don't think it's happening, don't think it's possible? Well it's already happening.

          http://www.internetnews.com/governme...0a%20Fight.htm
          http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21376597/
          http://gizmodo.com/5052628/comcast-o...r-your-traffic
          Last edited by NetHorse; 06-23-2010, 08:19 PM.
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          • Jaytown
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2005
            • 1056

            #55
            Originally posted by DamianJ
            This is part of the counterfeit goods act, which in itself is as stupid as anyone who thinks that copyright infringement can be stopped.
            Exactly, NOTHING will come out of this, anyone hoping it will should wake the fuck up.

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            • crazytrini85
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2006
              • 817

              #56
              Originally posted by NetHorse
              I've been saying this for years, everyone always argues, "piracy can't be stopped". Well, no, it can't be stopped, but when the laws are changed it can be greatly reduced.


              It doesn't matter what form of piracy they've specifically targeted today, this is just the beginning.

              In my opinion this is what will happen in the next 1-3 years.

              First congress will pass a bill for "reasonable network management practices". In other words content filtering to stop unlawful activity over the internet.

              Next there will be a "panel" created. This panel will determine what sites are breaking U.S. laws.

              Once a site is determined to be breaking laws it will be filtered through all the major telecommunication giants in the United States, and they will be GLAD to comply.

              This will not solely be to stop piracy and other unlawful activity. Like everything, it will be a major political move and I guarantee it will come at a huge cost to our, (people in the United States) freedom on the internet.

              Don't think it's happening, don't think it's possible? Well it's already happening.

              http://www.internetnews.com/governme...0a%20Fight.htm
              http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21376597/
              http://gizmodo.com/5052628/comcast-o...r-your-traffic
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              • $5 submissions
                I help you SUCCEED
                • Nov 2003
                • 32189

                #57
                Originally posted by candyflip
                Will the "War On Piracy" be the new "War On Drugs"?
                With the same stellar results?

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                • DamianJ
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 15808

                  #58
                  Originally posted by GatorB
                  Just a point to make here. Just because they had record profit doesn't mean piracy didn't still have an effect. Maybe they would have had 12% profit or whatever.

                  if I have $100 in my wallet and someone takes $10 it doesn't mean I didn't get $10 stolen just because I still have $90 in my wallet.
                  Where do I suggest piracy has no effect?

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                  • TheDoc
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 13827

                    #59
                    Originally posted by NetHorse
                    I've been saying this for years, everyone always argues, "piracy can't be stopped". Well, no, it can't be stopped, but when the laws are changed it can be greatly reduced.


                    It doesn't matter what form of piracy they've specifically targeted today, this is just the beginning.

                    In my opinion this is what will happen in the next 1-3 years.

                    First congress will pass a bill for "reasonable network management practices". In other words content filtering to stop unlawful activity over the internet.

                    Next there will be a "panel" created. This panel will determine what sites are breaking U.S. laws.

                    Once a site is determined to be breaking laws it will be filtered through all the major telecommunication giants in the United States, and they will be GLAD to comply.

                    This will not solely be to stop piracy and other unlawful activity. Like everything, it will be a major political move and I guarantee it will come at a huge cost to our, (people in the United States) freedom on the internet.

                    Don't think it's happening, don't think it's possible? Well it's already happening.

                    http://www.internetnews.com/governme...0a%20Fight.htm
                    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21376597/
                    http://gizmodo.com/5052628/comcast-o...r-your-traffic

                    This task force isn't new... technically nothing is changing, we're simply doing what we have done before with the laws that we already have.

                    No laws related to copyright/fair use will change in this Country. Fair use alone is about 15% of our entire GDP, changing the laws would destroy our Country.

                    And technically, tubes aren't breaking the law until they ignore your requests. Basically they aren't counterfeiting anything, this task force isn't going to care.
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                    • NetHorse
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                      • Dec 2006
                      • 3526

                      #60
                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                      This task force isn't new... technically nothing is changing, we're simply doing what we have done before with the laws that we already have.

                      No laws related to copyright/fair use will change in this Country. Fair use alone is about 15% of our entire GDP, changing the laws would destroy our Country.

                      And technically, tubes aren't breaking the law until they ignore your requests. Basically they aren't counterfeiting anything, this task force isn't going to care.
                      LOL, that's exactly my point, "technically" they aren't breaking any laws, because laws to stop loopholes like that don't yet exist. That's why they're called NEW laws.

                      I mean I can't see how you can say a law that enables the filtering of traffic to sites thought to committing unlawful activity won't change anything. Did you even bother to look at those links? It's not happening right now, but that's the direction we are heading in.
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                      • TheDoc
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 13827

                        #61
                        Originally posted by NetHorse
                        LOL, that's exactly my point, "technically" they aren't breaking any laws, because laws to stop loopholes like that don't yet exist. That's why they're called NEW laws.

                        I mean I can't see how you can say a law that enables the filtering of traffic to sites thought to committing unlawful activity won't change anything. Did you even bother to look at those links? It's not happening right now, but that's the direction we are heading in.
                        What the hell is this noncoherent babble?

                        What law? What enabled filtering?

                        You must have posted in the wrong thread.
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