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  • TheDoc
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 13827
    #101
    Originally posted by The Demon
    http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

    http://michellemalkin.com/2009/07/02...ck-blame-bush/

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-...sh-under-obama

    http://moremoney.blogs.money.cnn.com...han-you-think/

    http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/...t-in-pictures/

    http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/oba..._bush_deficit/

    And yes, I expect you'll scream at the sources and/or focus on the dates, forgetting the fact that it's actually worse now than a year ago. I win
    Yeah sources are trash... here use this:

    http://www.miseryindex.us/URbymonth.asp Oh snap, unemployment has steadied out and is improving.

    As for the deficit and debt, as stated... when you correct the dirty books that Bush was running, not putting the war costs on the books, of course the numbers that were already extremly bad and the worst in history, get corrected and actually show how bad the damage is. Today, we're paying for that... suck it up and credit the damage to the proper person.

    I hope you're not putting all your 'things are worse' on Obama over unemployment... that would be rather laughable.
    Last edited by TheDoc; 06-22-2010, 07:58 AM.
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      • The Demon
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2003
        • 7336
        #102
        Originally posted by TheDoc
        Yeah sources are trash... here use this:

        http://www.miseryindex.us/URbymonth.asp Oh snap, unemployment has steadied out and is improving.

        As for the deficit and debt, as stated... when you correct the dirty books that Bush was running, not putting the war costs on the books, of course the numbers that were already extremly bad and the worst in history, get corrected and actually show how bad the damage is. Today, we're paying for that... suck it up and credit the damage to the proper person.

        I hope you're not putting all your 'things are worse' on Obama over unemployment... that would be rather laughable.
        The only thing that's laughable as you predictably ignoring 10+ sources, and claiming your only source is the correct one. Please continue amusing us with your denial.

        http://www.tradersnarrative.com/wp-c...Jan%202010.png

        http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/w...yment-2010.png

        Oh snap!! What's even funnier is you're using the census jobs that were created as an argument for "unemployment is going down!!" Lol, I'm enjoying this.
        Greed is Good

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          • TheDoc
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2001
            • 13827
            #103
            Originally posted by TheDoc
            http://www.miseryindex.us/URbymonth.asp
            Dang, based on that graphs unemployment numbers, Obama is putting the economic smack down on the mighty Reagan.
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              • The Demon
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2003
                • 7336
                #104
                Originally posted by TheDoc
                Dang, based on that graphs unemployment numbers, Obama is putting the economic smack down on the mighty Reagan.
                Are you looking at the same graph we're looking, or are you in the advanced stages of denial? Based on your own single source(lol), Reagan made Obama his bitch.

                Also:

                http://startthinkingright.wordpress....l-for-america/

                http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-a..._b_341348.html

                http://portalseven.com/employment/un...80&toYear=2009

                Owned.

                "YOUR SOURCES ARE GARBAGE!!!"-TheDoc
                Last edited by The Demon; 06-22-2010, 08:09 AM.
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                  • TheDoc
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 13827
                    #105
                    Originally posted by The Demon
                    The only thing that's laughable as you predictably ignoring 10+ sources, and claiming your only source is the correct one. Please continue amusing us with your denial.

                    http://www.tradersnarrative.com/wp-c...Jan%202010.png

                    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/w...yment-2010.png

                    Oh snap!! What's even funnier is you're using the census jobs that were created as an argument for "unemployment is going down!!" Lol, I'm enjoying this.
                    Those are some great opinion blogs...

                    http://www.bls.gov/ 9.7% in May 2010
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                      • The Demon
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 7336
                        #106
                        Originally posted by TheDoc
                        Those are some great opinion blogs...

                        http://www.bls.gov/ 9.7% in May 2010
                        That's some great government manipulation by the Obama Administration. Silly them, claiming unemployment is going down because they hire 400,000 census workers Owned
                        Greed is Good

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                          • Vendzilla
                            Biker Gnome
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23200
                            #107
                            Originally posted by TheDoc


                            See that big increase in jobs lost on the left, vs. the decrease under Obama's side? That's an improvement...
                            LMAO, I love when you guys bring up this chart,You're excited about we have stop loosing so many jobs, but does that matter to the 10% of the population that's getting unemployment, or that when Obama revels in the fact that the stimulus created 10k new jobs, never mind that there were 400k new unemployment claims for the same time period? Or that Obama revels in new jobs created in the government, who are paid with the taxes of those that are still employed, I have to wonder what kind of fuzzy math you guys are snorting?

                            Obama = FAIL on Jobs
                            Obama = FAIL on everything, he pushed the health care bill that we can't afford and don't want, he doesn't care, he has his agenda
                            Obama = FAIL on the oil spill, you guys that support Obama were all over GW's shit over Katrina, but that hardly compares to the major fuck up to the world under the Obama Administration
                            You guys voted in Obama because of the wars GW started, here we are 18 months later
                            He's going down as the biggest loser as a president
                            His approval rating has dropped faster than any president, even faster that GW, it's took years for GW's ratings to drop, for Obama it was months
                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                            think about that

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                              • TheDoc
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 13827
                                #108
                                Originally posted by The Demon
                                Are you looking at the same graph we're looking, or are you in the advanced stages of denial? Based on your own single source(lol), Reagan made Obama his bitch.

                                Also:

                                http://startthinkingright.wordpress....l-for-america/

                                http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-a..._b_341348.html

                                http://portalseven.com/employment/un...80&toYear=2009

                                Owned.

                                "YOUR SOURCES ARE GARBAGE!!!"-TheDoc
                                Reagan's peak unemployment rate: 10.8%
                                Obama's peak unemployment rate: 10.1%

                                If half the time Obama stopped the increase, and so far hasn't had enough time to compare an improvement.
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                                  • The Demon
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2003
                                    • 7336
                                    #109
                                    Originally posted by TheDoc
                                    Reagan's peak unemployment rate: 10.8%
                                    Obama's peak unemployment rate: 10.1%

                                    If half the time Obama stopped the increase, and so far hasn't had enough time to compare an improvement.
                                    Reagan's unemployment went down like crazy to around 6%. Obama's is over 10% and growing, while the BLS has desperately tried to change the way unemployment is measured the past 2 years, and extending unemployment benefits to manipulate the charts.
                                    Greed is Good

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                                      • TheDoc
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 13827
                                        #110
                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                        LMAO, I love when you guys bring up this chart,You're excited about we have stop loosing so many jobs, but does that matter to the 10% of the population that's getting unemployment, or that when Obama revels in the fact that the stimulus created 10k new jobs, never mind that there were 400k new unemployment claims for the same time period? Or that Obama revels in new jobs created in the government, who are paid with the taxes of those that are still employed, I have to wonder what kind of fuzzy math you guys are snorting?

                                        Obama = FAIL on Jobs
                                        Obama = FAIL on everything, he pushed the health care bill that we can't afford and don't want, he doesn't care, he has his agenda
                                        Obama = FAIL on the oil spill, you guys that support Obama were all over GW's shit over Katrina, but that hardly compares to the major fuck up to the world under the Obama Administration
                                        You guys voted in Obama because of the wars GW started, here we are 18 months later
                                        He's going down as the biggest loser as a president
                                        His approval rating has dropped faster than any president, even faster that GW, it's took years for GW's ratings to drop, for Obama it was months
                                        The Demon posted the URL, I simply posted the chart... so you might want to correct who brings the chart up.

                                        Obama hasn't had enough time to improve on jobs based on how long it has taken every other president in history.

                                        I love the healthcare bill and know tons of people that do as well.

                                        Of course people dieing and being forgot about and starving and blacks being rounded up after Katrina is far less of a problem than whatever Obama hasn't done with the Oil spill that you think he should have done.

                                        I didn't vote for Obama...

                                        You might want to check the approval rating statistics again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...pproval_rating
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                                          • Tom_PM
                                            Porn Meister
                                            • Feb 2005
                                            • 16443
                                            #111
                                            Just checking in on page 3 of a Demon thread to see how it's going.

                                            Yep, the earth must still be turning. Carry on
                                            43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                              • BFT3K
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Dec 2005
                                                • 10764
                                                #112
                                                It is much easier to complain, than it is to fix the problems.

                                                Tax breaks for the rich did not help anyone but the rich.

                                                Tax breaks for corporations that fuck the middle class did not help.

                                                Less regulation for banks and Wall Street did not help.

                                                Starting two unfunded wars in the middle east was not wise.

                                                Continuing our reliance on fossil fuels, especially oil, does not help.

                                                Allowing politicians to be funded by special interests does not help.

                                                ETC...

                                                Instead of complaining about Obama non-stop, how about offering solutions?

                                                PS - If your solutions are already listed above, please try again.
                                                Last edited by BFT3K; 06-22-2010, 08:22 AM.

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                                                  • TheDoc
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 13827
                                                    #113
                                                    Originally posted by The Demon
                                                    Reagan's unemployment went down like crazy to around 6%. Obama's is over 10% and growing, while the BLS has desperately tried to change the way unemployment is measured the past 2 years, and extending unemployment benefits to manipulate the charts.
                                                    While Reagan was President the numbers went from steady, to much worse. Basically 3 years of getting worse. It took him a 1 1/2 years to get it back to were it was was, and another 2 years to get it down to 6%.

                                                    How about you give Obama that amount of time Reagan required or does he only get 1/8 the the time, for some reason?
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                                                      • The Demon
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                        • 7336
                                                        #114
                                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...pproval_rating

                                                        This kinda proves our point Doc. Next time try using sources that help your argument. Plus, Obama has been on the lower side of the 40% disapproval for the better part of the past year.
                                                        Greed is Good

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                                                          • Tom_PM
                                                            Porn Meister
                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                            • 16443
                                                            #115
                                                            Their only problem is Obama.

                                                            Case closed, lmao.
                                                            43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                              • The Demon
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                • 7336
                                                                #116
                                                                Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                While Reagan was President the numbers went from steady, to much worse. Basically 3 years of getting worse. It took him a 1 1/2 years to get it back to were it was was, and another 2 years to get it down to 6%.

                                                                How about you give Obama that amount of time Reagan required or does he only get 1/8 the the time, for some reason?
                                                                Are you looking at the same graphs we're looking, or are you continuing to make things up? Obama's #s keep going down(up in unemployment) all across the chart, while Reagan's kept going up(down in unemployment). Sorry, we're giving the same criticism to Obama that the few retards on this forum give to Bush. Can't handle it, then quit the double standards.
                                                                Greed is Good

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                                                                  • The Demon
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                    • 7336
                                                                    #117
                                                                    Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                    Their only problem is Obama.

                                                                    Case closed, lmao.
                                                                    And the Democratic party. Your only problem was Bush and the Republican Party. +1 for hypocrisy and double standards
                                                                    Greed is Good

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                                                                      • dyna mo
                                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                                        • 68184
                                                                        #118
                                                                        Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                        Their only problem is Obama.

                                                                        Case closed, lmao.
                                                                        what do you mean?

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                                                                          • The Demon
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                                            • 7336
                                                                            #119
                                                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                            what do you mean?
                                                                            Nothing, he brings to the table the same thing the other liberals on this forum do. No common sense, no argument, just hilarious comments.
                                                                            Greed is Good

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                                                                              • BFT3K
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Dec 2005
                                                                                • 10764
                                                                                #120
                                                                                Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                                Their only problem is Obama.

                                                                                Case closed, lmao.
                                                                                It is pathetic isn't it?

                                                                                Obama is trying to help the middle class now that the GOP has placed the US in its worst position of our lifetime, and the Obama haters are so blinded by their own hatred, that rather than work together for a common good, they would rather just bash Obama, so that what? So that the same people that got us here can get back in power?

                                                                                Sad...

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                                                                                  • The Demon
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                                    • 7336
                                                                                    #121
                                                                                    Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                    It is pathetic isn't it?

                                                                                    Obama is trying to help the middle class now that the GOP has placed the US in its worst position of our lifetime, and the Obama haters are so blinded by their own hatred, that rather than work together for a common good, they would rather just bash Obama, so that what? So that the same people that got us here can get back in power?

                                                                                    Sad...
                                                                                    Definitely sad. The whole "blame the Republicans" rhetoric is hilarious, seeing as how Obama and the Democrats have destroyed this country in 2 years, far more than Bush could have in 8. Gotta love stupid people though, thanks for the amusement BFT3K.
                                                                                    Greed is Good

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                                                                                      • BFT3K
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Dec 2005
                                                                                        • 10764
                                                                                        #122
                                                                                        Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                        Definitely sad. The whole "blame the Republicans" rhetoric is hilarious, seeing as how Obama and the Democrats have destroyed this country in 2 years, far more than Bush could have in 8. Gotta love stupid people though, thanks for the amusement BFT3K.
                                                                                        It is hard to imagine a person more ignorant than yourself.

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                                                                                          • The Demon
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                                                            • 7336
                                                                                            #123
                                                                                            Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                            It is hard to imagine a person more ignorant than yourself.
                                                                                            It's definitely NOT had to imagine you being as dumb as they come, even by porn webmaster standards
                                                                                            Greed is Good

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                                                                                              • BFT3K
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Dec 2005
                                                                                                • 10764
                                                                                                #124
                                                                                                Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                                It's definitely NOT had to imagine you being as dumb as they come, even by porn webmaster standards
                                                                                                Anybody who told you to be yourself simply couldn't have given you worse advice...

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                                                                                                  • The Demon
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                                                    • 7336
                                                                                                    #125
                                                                                                    Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                    Anybody who told you to be yourself simply couldn't have given you worse advice...
                                                                                                    Shouldn't you be embarrassed that you're a grown man who possesses a legally retarded IQ?
                                                                                                    Greed is Good

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                                                                                                      • BFT3K
                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                        • Dec 2005
                                                                                                        • 10764
                                                                                                        #126
                                                                                                        Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                                        Shouldn't you be embarrassed that you're a grown man who possesses a legally retarded IQ?
                                                                                                        I had a nightmare. I dreamt I was you.

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                                                                                                          • dyna mo
                                                                                                            just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                                                                            • 68184
                                                                                                            #127
                                                                                                            Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                            It is pathetic isn't it?

                                                                                                            Obama is trying to help the middle class now that the GOP has placed the US in its worst position of our lifetime, and the Obama haters are so blinded by their own hatred, that rather than work together for a common good, they would rather just bash Obama, so that what? So that the same people that got us here can get back in power?

                                                                                                            Sad...
                                                                                                            that's really not an accurate portrayal, at least from where i stand.

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                                                                                                              • charlie g
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                • 2759
                                                                                                                #128
                                                                                                                Help me, because admittedly I am not too bright? What is an unfunded war? Is there a funded war we have had? I am really confused when it is said Bush and his "unfunded wars". Didn't congress approve funds for Iraq and Afghanistan? Declaration of war and passing spending bills for war funding aren't the same thing?? Really, I am stupid... help me understand why this is different than Viet Nam or Korea... or were those unfunded wars too?
                                                                                                                AlanAgus1 at gmail dot com
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                                                                                                                  • The Demon
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                                                                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                    • 7336
                                                                                                                    #129
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                    that's really not an accurate portrayal, at least from where i stand.
                                                                                                                    Lol@liberals having an accurate portrayal of reality.
                                                                                                                    Greed is Good

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                                                                                                                      • The Demon
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                        • 7336
                                                                                                                        #130
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by charlie g
                                                                                                                        Help me, because admittedly I am not too bright? What is an unfunded war? Is there a funded war we have had? I am really confused when it is said Bush and his "unfunded wars". Didn't congress approve funds for Iraq and Afghanistan? Declaration of war and passing spending bills for war funding aren't the same thing?? Really, I am stupid... help me understand why this is different than Viet Nam or Korea... or were those unfunded wars too?
                                                                                                                        Charlie, you're proving facts and a logical argument, two things the liberals on this forums can't cope with. Ignore the stupidity, they love to make things up just so they can sleep at night.
                                                                                                                        Greed is Good

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                                                                                                                          • BFT3K
                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                            • Dec 2005
                                                                                                                            • 10764
                                                                                                                            #131
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                            that's really not an accurate portrayal, at least from where i stand.
                                                                                                                            Please enlighten us as to how YOU would be fixing the world's problems, or even just the US problems. I am very curious....

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                                                                                                                              • charlie g
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                                                                                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                • 2759
                                                                                                                                #132
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                                                Please enlighten us as to how YOU would be fixing the world's problems, or even just the US problems. I am very curious....
                                                                                                                                I know this question was directed at dynamo, but I have to ask.... Obama wasnt elected to fix the world's problems. He was elected to get us out of the war and fix the economy. Maybe I misunderstood his platform.... but I thought that was the change promised. I dont see much change... do you?
                                                                                                                                AlanAgus1 at gmail dot com
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                                                                                                                                  • The Demon
                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                    • 7336
                                                                                                                                    #133
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by charlie g
                                                                                                                                    I know this question was directed at dynamo, but I have to ask.... Obama wasnt elected to fix the world's problems. He was elected to get us out of the war and fix the economy. Maybe I misunderstood his platform.... but I thought that was the change promised. I dont see much change... do you?
                                                                                                                                    Unintelligent yet hilarious justification coming.....
                                                                                                                                    Greed is Good

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                                                                                                                                      • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                        • 68184
                                                                                                                                        #134
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                                                        Please enlighten us as to how YOU would be fixing the world's problems, or even just the US problems. I am very curious....
                                                                                                                                        gear down, big rig.

                                                                                                                                        as i've mentioned previously in this thread, i'm not the sort to assume i understand the world. my comment was re: your portrayal of people who are disenchanted with obama as being obama haters that can't see reality due to their hatred. that's not the case with many of us.

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                                                                                                                                          • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                            Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                            • 23200
                                                                                                                                            #135
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                                                            The Demon posted the URL, I simply posted the chart... so you might want to correct who brings the chart up.

                                                                                                                                            Obama hasn't had enough time to improve on jobs based on how long it has taken every other president in history.

                                                                                                                                            I love the healthcare bill and know tons of people that do as well.

                                                                                                                                            Of course people dieing and being forgot about and starving and blacks being rounded up after Katrina is far less of a problem than whatever Obama hasn't done with the Oil spill that you think he should have done.

                                                                                                                                            I didn't vote for Obama...

                                                                                                                                            You might want to check the approval rating statistics again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...pproval_rating
                                                                                                                                            We need heathcare reform, but you have to admit when Pelosi said we'll know whats in the healthcare bill after it's voted on, well that was kinda scary, now they are after reading everything, that it will not work like Obama said it will, employers have to cut back to afford the changes, it was not voted in bipartisan, it should have been, a good president would have got the two sides to work together on that.

                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                                                            It is much easier to complain, than it is to fix the problems.

                                                                                                                                            Tax breaks for the rich did not help anyone but the rich.

                                                                                                                                            Tax breaks for corporations that fuck the middle class did not help.

                                                                                                                                            Starting two unfunded wars in the middle east was not wise.

                                                                                                                                            Continuing our reliance on fossil fuels, especially oil, does not help.

                                                                                                                                            Allowing politicians to be funded by special interests does not help.

                                                                                                                                            ETC...

                                                                                                                                            Instead of complaining about Obama non-stop, how about offering solutions?

                                                                                                                                            PS - If your solutions are already listed above, please try again.
                                                                                                                                            We've had this discussion, Obama even said that less people are paying ANY taxes, it's because poor people and most middle income people pay ZERO taxes, so any tax cuts that only benefit the rich, it's just a way for the democratic machine to spin it.

                                                                                                                                            I have offered solutions, get rid of NAFTA, make it a level playing field for American companies to compete with foreign labor. less government means less taxes. More people working in better paying jobs means more people have healthcare. Use a pipe that goes inside the oil leak and inflates seals with hydraulic pressure to seal the fit with no leaks. Pull out of the two wars completely, drill for domestic oil, control it to supply the US first, then sell to other countries to bring down the price of oil world wide, taking away the money from the middle east and bankrupt them like Reagan brought down the USSR with star wars. Then when the economy can handle it, work on green energy, fire up the nuclear reactors and run them like the military runs reactors on a nuclear sub, no worries.


                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                                                            While Reagan was President the numbers went from steady, to much worse. Basically 3 years of getting worse. It took him a 1 1/2 years to get it back to were it was was, and another 2 years to get it down to 6%.

                                                                                                                                            How about you give Obama that amount of time Reagan required or does he only get 1/8 the the time, for some reason?
                                                                                                                                            If I saw one thing that would indicate that things might get better, I would agree with you, but doing the math, it doesn't add up. And remember it got worse under a democrat controlled house and senate, so I'm not looking to the democrats to make things better
                                                                                                                                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                            think about that

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                                                                                                                                              • BFT3K
                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2005
                                                                                                                                                • 10764
                                                                                                                                                #136
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                I have offered solutions, get rid of NAFTA, make it a level playing field for American companies to compete with foreign labor. less government means less taxes. More people working in better paying jobs means more people have healthcare. Use a pipe that goes inside the oil leak and inflates seals with hydraulic pressure to seal the fit with no leaks. Pull out of the two wars completely, drill for domestic oil, control it to supply the US first, then sell to other countries to bring down the price of oil world wide, taking away the money from the middle east and bankrupt them like Reagan brought down the USSR with star wars. Then when the economy can handle it, work on green energy, fire up the nuclear reactors and run them like the military runs reactors on a nuclear sub, no worries.
                                                                                                                                                And I will respond in the same way I responded last time you were daydreaming on this board...

                                                                                                                                                I would like a magic lamp, complete with a sexy genie who grants wishes.

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                                                                                                                                                  • charlie g
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                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2006
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                                                                                                                                                    #137
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                    We need heathcare reform, but you have to admit when Pelosi said we'll know whats in the healthcare bill after it's voted on, well that was kinda scary, now they are after reading everything, that it will not work like Obama said it will, employers have to cut back to afford the changes, it was not voted in bipartisan, it should have been, a good president would have got the two sides to work together on that.



                                                                                                                                                    We've had this discussion, Obama even said that less people are paying ANY taxes, it's because poor people and most middle income people pay ZERO taxes, so any tax cuts that only benefit the rich, it's just a way for the democratic machine to spin it.

                                                                                                                                                    I have offered solutions, get rid of NAFTA, make it a level playing field for American companies to compete with foreign labor. less government means less taxes. More people working in better paying jobs means more people have healthcare. Use a pipe that goes inside the oil leak and inflates seals with hydraulic pressure to seal the fit with no leaks. Pull out of the two wars completely, drill for domestic oil, control it to supply the US first, then sell to other countries to bring down the price of oil world wide, taking away the money from the middle east and bankrupt them like Reagan brought down the USSR with star wars. Then when the economy can handle it, work on green energy, fire up the nuclear reactors and run them like the military runs reactors on a nuclear sub, no worries.




                                                                                                                                                    If I saw one thing that would indicate that things might get better, I would agree with you, but doing the math, it doesn't add up. And remember it got worse under a democrat controlled house and senate, so I'm not looking to the democrats to make things better
                                                                                                                                                    Wow, so much good stuff in your post.

                                                                                                                                                    NAFTA was a republican fuck you from the get-go. Whoever didn't see this as a shift of the manufacturing base(and an attack on the middle class) was an imbecile.

                                                                                                                                                    Healthcare will never be reformed as long as lobbyists are free to throw money around like a drunken shriner at a whorehouse... without tort reform there will always be problems with health care costs and delivery.

                                                                                                                                                    The class warfare that the US taxcode inflicts on US society is nothing short of evil. The very wealthy pay little tax while those that work and make the economy click are ridden like beggars on a borrowed horse.

                                                                                                                                                    I would actually feel good about Obama if he pulled a JFK on our dependency on oil. JFK made it a national initiative to land a man on the moon. If Obama would set aside 1 trillion dollars to the first company that produced an internal combustion engine(or something equivalent) on a renewable energy source, our dependency on oil would all but cease. But that will never happen as the oil companies spend too much money in Washington.

                                                                                                                                                    I could go on and on about what should happen... but until money and politics aren't synonymous, I am just pissing in the wind. Obama sucks more than Bush. At least Obama is intelligent enough to know he's fucking America... Bush I am not so sure he had a clue.
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                                                                                                                                                      • Serial Pervert
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                                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2008
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                                                                                                                                                        #138
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                                                                        nice pic!

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                                                                                                                                                          • BFT3K
                                                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2005
                                                                                                                                                            • 10764
                                                                                                                                                            #139
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by charlie g
                                                                                                                                                            Wow, so much good stuff in your post.

                                                                                                                                                            NAFTA was a republican fuck you from the get-go. Whoever didn't see this as a shift of the manufacturing base(and an attack on the middle class) was an imbecile.

                                                                                                                                                            Healthcare will never be reformed as long as lobbyists are free to throw money around like a drunken shriner at a whorehouse... without tort reform there will always be problems with health care costs and delivery.

                                                                                                                                                            The class warfare that the US taxcode inflicts on US society is nothing short of evil. The very wealthy pay little tax while those that work and make the economy click are ridden like beggars on a borrowed horse.

                                                                                                                                                            I would actually feel good about Obama if he pulled a JFK on our dependency on oil. JFK made it a national initiative to land a man on the moon. If Obama would set aside 1 trillion dollars to the first company that produced an internal combustion engine(or something equivalent) on a renewable energy source, our dependency on oil would all but cease. But that will never happen as the oil companies spend too much money in Washington.

                                                                                                                                                            I could go on and on about what should happen... but until money and politics aren't synonymous, I am just pissing in the wind. Obama sucks more than Bush. At least Obama is intelligent enough to know he's fucking America... Bush I am not so sure he had a clue.
                                                                                                                                                            How do you support healthcare reform and alternate energy, and then bash Obama? WTF?! I was agreeing with most of your post until you drew that bizarre conclusion.

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                                                                                                                                                              • BFT3K
                                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                #140
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Serial Pervert
                                                                                                                                                                nice pic!
                                                                                                                                                                "Well kids, you tried and you failed. What have you learned? Never try. ~ Homer Simpson

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                    Biker Gnome
                                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                    • 23200
                                                                                                                                                                    #141
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                                                                                    And I will respond in the same way I responded last time you were daydreaming on this board...

                                                                                                                                                                    I would like a magic lamp, complete with a sexy genie who grants wishes.
                                                                                                                                                                    Yet you offer no criticism or debate?
                                                                                                                                                                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                                    think about that

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                                                                                                                                                                      • The Demon
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                                                                                                                                                                        #142
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                                        Yet you offer no criticism or debate?
                                                                                                                                                                        Haven't you noticed that BFT3K is a moron? He can't debate logically, nor use facts. His only response will be some kind of retarded insult that draws attention away from the debate. He's incredibly easy to ridicule.
                                                                                                                                                                        Greed is Good

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                                                                                                                                                                          • charlie g
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                            #143
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                                                                                            How do you support healthcare reform and alternate energy, and then bash Obama? WTF?! I was agreeing with most of your post until you drew that bizarre conclusion.
                                                                                                                                                                            Look, I am not on either side. Obama inherited a really shitty lot from Bush. But Obama is not what was advertised. The health reform promised was not what was delivered. He has done nothing to ween us off our dependency on oil. If he were truly the revolutionary that he purported to be he would make alternative fuels a priority in his administration and not pay lip service to the idea. Healthcare can NEVER be reformed as long as trial lawyers have unfettered access to the financial pillars of the healthcare system. This is not rocket science, but you can not get that far into this game unless you play ball with oil and trial lawyers... hell, probably 80% of congress are lawyers.... what does that tell you?

                                                                                                                                                                            I know many people are invested in the dem-rep struggle. But if you look at things going on for what they are and take off the donkey or elephant cheerleeding outfit, the base solutions aren't that difficult. The guys in washington will always make it seem more complicated than it really is because it is in their best interests to do so.
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Amputate Your Head
                                                                                                                                                                                There can be only one
                                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                #144
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by charlie g
                                                                                                                                                                                Help me, because admittedly I am not too bright? What is an unfunded war? Is there a funded war we have had? I am really confused when it is said Bush and his "unfunded wars". Didn't congress approve funds for Iraq and Afghanistan? Declaration of war and passing spending bills for war funding aren't the same thing?? Really, I am stupid... help me understand why this is different than Viet Nam or Korea... or were those unfunded wars too?
                                                                                                                                                                                Perhaps he meant 'unfounded'. Because both of them are certainly unfounded.
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Gouge
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                                    #145
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                                                                                                                    A spell checker would not have picked it up, as "your" is also a properly spelled word.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Here's a funny Japanese Jet Pack...



                                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHf-ocT9n3E
                                                                                                                                                                                    Microsoft Word has an option to run Grammar checks along with the spelling so yes it would have picked it up and gave me options...you sir loose again.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • charlie g
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                                        #146
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                                                                                                                                                        Perhaps he meant 'unfounded'. Because both of them are certainly unfounded.
                                                                                                                                                                                        Quite possibly. I thought gw was criticized for fighting in Iraq when he should have been in Afghanistan? Honest question, not trying to stir the pot. I have long ago stopped paying attention to what is happening there. I really do not know what the answer is to that situation. I am jut sad that people continue to be killed and maimed there.
                                                                                                                                                                                        AlanAgus1 at gmail dot com
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • directfiesta
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                            #147
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                                                                                                                            Haven't you noticed that BFT3K is a moron? He can't debate logically, nor use facts. His only response will be some kind of retarded insult that draws attention away from the debate. He's incredibly easy to ridicule.

                                                                                                                                                                                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                                                                                                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Amputate Your Head
                                                                                                                                                                                                There can be only one
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 39075
                                                                                                                                                                                                #148
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by charlie g
                                                                                                                                                                                                Quite possibly. I thought gw was criticized for fighting in Iraq when he should have been in Afghanistan? Honest question, not trying to stir the pot. I have long ago stopped paying attention to what is happening there. I really do not know what the answer is to that situation. I am jut sad that people continue to be killed and maimed there.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Depends on who you talk to and what you believe. I believe we are in both locations for no other reason than to secure that region until the last drop of oil is pumped out. After that, we will pull out faster than a 16 year old kid scared of parenting. My problem with that lies not in what we are doing, but the way we went about doing it. We can't be upfront and public about invading other countries for oil, so we create "situations" to rally patriotic support of the public to invade under a lie.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Anyone with the ability to reason can easily figure out we are not sacrificing our soldiers and spending billions upon billions to look around the Afghani countryside for one man. That is utterly ridiculous and insulting to anyone over the age of 2. And it's not because we give a shit about the Afghani people and their "plight" with the Taliban. Look how fast we ditch countries that have nothing to offer us: Somalia.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Iraq is no different. We aren't in either location to "win the war". We are there to secure property. Nothing more, nothing less.
                                                                                                                                                                                                SIG TOO BIG

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Gouge
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Gouge
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Microsoft Word has an option to run Grammar checks along with the spelling so yes it would have picked it up and gave me options...you sir loose again.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I mean Lose

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Hornydog4cooter
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        #150
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                                                                                                                                        He can't debate logically, nor use facts. His only response will be some kind of retarded insult that draws attention away from the debate. .
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yes i much prefer your intelligent insults damn that guy

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