Official .XXX petition thread. If you are against .XXX, step inside

the word is certainly getting out...

some program owners stepping up and emailing their affiliates to get involved.

It has been documented from a previous ICANN board meeting, that they are watching the comment period board.

They are counting up the number of responses that are in opposition vs those in favor.

While they may not read every message, i would suggest that stating your position against .XXX in the subject line will make it easier for them to do their counts.

I will be updating the list of public stance opposition at http://www.FightTheDotXXX.com later on.. got lots of emails from webmasters and those in this thread.

End of march is when ICANN meets in Lisbon, and rattling the cages now with a strong showing the the adult community does not want .XXX will certainly be heard by the new ICANN board members who are now seeing that the prior approved definition of who the community consists of, doesn't make sense.

Fight the .XXX!

.XXX is the mark of the Beast!

I have updated http://www.FightTheDotXXX.com

If your company isn't listed, please feel free to reply here or send me an email.

I will be including the full list into ICANN next week to get it in:


Free Speech Coalition (trade association)

Sex.com (search portal)

Home Grown Video (paysites)

YNOT (webmaster resource site)

Adam & Eve (novelties and video)

SmashBucks (paysites)

LightSpeed (paysites)

Sunny Dollars (paysites)

Webmaster Paradise (content plugins)

ATKINGDOM (paysites)

Porn Profit (paysites)

The SCORE Group (paysites)

HotMovies.com (video on demand)

Choker Traffic (traffic broker)

Quentin Boyer (individual)

MojoHost (ISP)

Yanks Cash (paysites)

Sex Pictures Pass (AVS)

Pimps Promo (marketing)

Team Click Cash (paysites)

Amazing Content (content producer)

Payserve (paysites)

AskJolene (search engine)

Nysus (internet entrepreneur)

Twistys (paysites)

arikaames.com (paysite)

kickass.com (paysites)

Len Palmer (internet entrepreneur)

Marc (formerly of Matrix Content)

Harley Girl (webgoddess)

Iron Griffin Media (free sites)

AdultWebmasterLabor.com (webmaster resource)

Lowkey Productions (video production)

tiffinivids.com (Amateur Video)

afsac.org (advocacy group)

InGayPorn.com (blog)

12clicks (internet bon vivant)

ObjectCube (software for adult)

Babagirl (adult webmistress)

The Adult Broker (marketing consultant)

PPPcard.net (payment solution)

XXXRewards/Karups (paysite)

MikeSouth.com (video producer/director)

Aly (industry personality)

SplitInfinity Networks, INC (webhost)

OC3 Networks (webhost/ISP)

Wasteland.com (paysite)

Fredricks Media Group (Producers/ web sites)

3Fall Productions (producers, paysites)

bellavendetta.com (fetish website)

Wolfy (webmaster)

Internet Co. (paysites)

DarkLady (journalist)

Consumption Junction (free site)

NichePay (paysites)

JDL "juicy" Media Group (Consulting Firm)

WorldWideContent.com (content provider)

sponsorslist.com (webmaster resource site)

Spunkycash (paysites)

Serpent Studios S.A. (paysites)

John Foulds "jayeff" (webmaster)

ViceReview.com (paysite reviews)

URLSX.com (webmaster resource)

eAdultIndustry.com (webmaster resource)

sponsorspecs.com (adult sponsor resource)

interracial-living.com (paysites)

AAA News (online retailer)

BBS-LA (ISP)

Mob Bucks (paysites)

KB (marketeur/industry personality)

BlueToon Media (paysites)

WWW. COM INC (concerned tax payer)

J. D. Obenberger and Associates (attorney)

Eric M. Bernstein (attorney)

Eric Frey (webmaster)

AEBN (video on-demand)

Silvercash (paysites)

WebOverdrive.com (webmaster resource)

SunUp Media Group, Inc. (paysites, content)

SunDown Media Group, Inc. (paysites)

Ademia Multimedia (plugins)

National A-1 Internet (ISP)

JQMedia aka Jays XXX Links (traffic master)

OC Cash (paysites)

MacDaddy Bucks (paysites)

tony404 (photographer/editor)

iAlien LLC (designer)

Laughing Loon Productions, L.L.C (webmaster)

Laughing Loon Productions, L.L.C (webmaster)

Eye Candi, LLC

Octogy Media Partners, LLC

SkyFu Media LLC

JDL Media Group

SAP Investments

JJB Inc

Royal Trading Group

AADC and Associates

Deck Swabbers Inc.

Verified Networks Inc.

Verified AVS Inc.

GetVerified.com

Webmaster Paradise (content producer)

Star Marketing Group LLC

F.U.B.A.R. Webmasters

Jaguar Webmedia

Adult Image Brokers

WTF Media Inc.

Dave Cummings Productions

E4AProductions.com

Shane's World

RAGECASH

EXTREME PAYCHECKS

SmutDealer.com

VAS Media Group

Housewivescash.com

123bill (online payment processor)

Axis-Adult.com

Web Wizard, Inc.

HowIgotRich.com

After Shock Media

xxxkey.com

traffictitan.com

Adult Rental

Platinum Bucks

Duke Dollars

Rhinopays

cazador media (websites)

media conductor (streaming media provider)

DVDsforaBuck.com

Pretty Girls Cash (paysites)

69kHz Enterprises (Online Adult Entertainment)

Gaybucks

adultmovieclub.com

triplexcash.com

STICKI

RamJetVideo.com

MarkiesBigDickClub.com

intimatefashionz.com

sexshowcase.net




Fight the roll call!

I emailed Vint Cerf (chair of the ICANN board) asking for the list of the "24 major companies supporting .xxx" so that industry members could determine if these companies are, in fact, major adult industry companies and are, in fact, on record as supporting .xxx. I also asked if a formal response by a number of larger companies would be better than the responses to the ICANN email address.

Here, in it's entirety, was his response.

From this I take the following:

1) The list of companies opposed to .xxx now being compiled by Fightthedotxxx.com is very important.

2) I suspect that he's being truthful that he really doesn't know if the list can be made public, but I am certain that there's no valid legal reason why it cannot and should not be made public.

We (gaybucks) are not large enough to have the resources to go after ICANN legally to get this info released. However, I have emailed Jeffrey Douglas at FSC about it, and I would suggest that any of you reading this thread could do the same. Any of you that have access to on-staff or on-retainer legal advice might also consult your corporate counsel on this as well; we are going to be discussing it with Chad later this week.

The summary letter that goes next to the list of companies found on http://www.FightTheDotXXX.com

A more extensive letter will be packaged up and sent to ICANN:

The .XXX sTLD is the first content-based domain extension that ICANN has entertained that has such levels of oversight and compliance and bloat that is just wrong on so many levels.

.XXX has been herald by ICM Registry as a mechanism to protect children, but the irony is that .XXX will make it easier for children to find adult entertainment material.

ICM Registry (the sponsor of the .XXX sTLD) has said that .XXX will help to open the namespace.

It certainly will. Now there will sites like yellow.xxx that might be urine fetish site. Any child could easily put in a keyword and add .XXX to see what pops up.

It's like the joke about reading your fortune cookie and adding "in bed" to the end. How easy would it be for a child to type in any kind of simple keyword of phrase and add on ".xxx" and find porn.

There is no .XXX blocking mechanism in place. Software and ISP filtering could be introduced, If .XXX is approved, but what would it block, a few number of .XXX domains. .XXX is voluntary, and those that have invested in their .COMS won't be giving them up.

.XXX is not about protecting children, it is about greed.

The .XXX TLD was perceived to be one that represents the adult industry for their interest for their own namespace. The .XXX proposal has the sponsored TLD more broadly defined as:

APPENDIX S

PART 3.

DESCRIPTION OF THE STLD COMMUNITY

Subject to Registry Operator?s compliance with this Registry Agreement, including all attachments and appendices thereto (the ?Agreement?) and any Temporary Specifications or Policies or Consensus Policy as defined in the Agreement, and provided the scope of the Charter is not exceeded:

The TLD Community will consist of the responsible global online adult-entertainment community (?Community?), generally defined as:

a. Those individuals, businesses, and entities that provide Adult Entertainment intended for consenting adults or for other community members (?Providers?),

b. Organizations that represent Providers (?Representatives?), and

c. Their vendors, service providers, and contractors (?Service Providers?).

The term "Adult-Entertainment" is intended to be understood broadly for a global medium, to include those websites that convey Adult Entertainment, operated by webmasters who have voluntarily determined that a system of self-identification would be beneficial.

Interested stakeholders, including individuals and entities concerned about child safety, free expression, and data privacy (?Other Stakeholders?) are not part of the sponsored community, but will play an important, formal role in the IFFOR policy development process. Registry Operator may modify and/or expand the description of the sTLD Community, consistent with the Agreement, to reflect change and development in the provision of online Adult Entertainment.


This paragraph from ICM's proposal, in reference to the red highlighting, means only those websites that want .XXX are defined as the community.

Given the list of websites listed to the left and the hundreds more who have posted up on ICANN's public comment board, it is quite clear, that the definition that ICM has proposed to ICANN is a sham of a definition.

If the adult entertainment industry wanted a .XXX TLD, then the individual companies who be flooding the ICANN message board in support of it.

What you see is clearly the opposite.

The Adult Entertainment community would support a .KIDS TLD that would truly be the best way to keep kids from any adult material.





Fight the .$$$!

I see two that arent on the list that should be:
DragonCom Inc (paysites, freesites)
Greenguy Marketing, Inc (freesites, webmaster community)

Brandon for President!!!!!

Thanks, Brandon, for your VERY contributory role in trying to educate everyone and help ICANN better understand the REAL facts in this matter.

I say "Brandon for President"!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks, Brandon:-)

Dave Cummings
www.davecummings.com

added!

thanx for formatting as above, helps me to enter into the list.


Fight the our list is bigger than your list!

I posted this up last year in the ICANN comment period, just found it in my folder:


Reasons why .XXX TLD is a good idea

With all the overwhelming posts rejecting the .XXX domain, I thought it might be good to have some voice of reason, some clarity as to why .XXX is a good idea.


The .XXX TLD will open up the domain namespace.
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Right now, websites have to be clever in creating new porn domains, concatenating words together, making them longer until they can find one that isn?t taken. These longer names are harder to remember and longer to type.

A urine fetish website can now get yellow.XXX that previously before .XXX, only a yellow pages website had the name.

More and more porn sites can now open up, going for the names that were long-lost in the .COM namespace.

There could be Muslim.XXX for Muslim specific sex preferences. Christian.XXX could be a porn site for the type that go to strip clubs on Saturday night, and church on Sunday morning.




A .XXX extension will be an easy to spot warning for kids to stay away

When kids see the .XXX extension in a search result, their proper upbringing and parental guidance will be fully tested as the child will know not to even click on the link, for fear that mom would be watching and they would get less Christmas presents because Santa knew they were being naughty at looking at naughty websites. Those big warning messages about adult content and being over 18 to enter are just not clear enough for kids. Kids identify with characters like in cartoons, not lengthy legalese statements. .XXX would be like a cartoon character that tells them to be good boys and girls and to stay away because only big boys and girls should be looking in there.



.XXX will stop the porn .COM websites
Filtering software will be able to lookup the IP of the .XXX website and block by the IP. Since porn websites usually host many domains on the same IP, including their .COM equivalent, filtering software will be able to block them all.

Some webmaster who decides that it is cool to get a .XXX domain and puts it on a virtual webhost like at GoDaddy (with thousands of non-adult websites hosted on the same IP) where he doesn?t even have any porn pics, would all get blocked because his .XXX domain shared the same IP as others. Who cares if those other sites get blocked.. they shouldn?t have been hosting on the same server as that deviant.

Hopefully, the porners aren?t that smart to catch on to this and won?t put their .COM website on one IP and the .XXX website on another.



The purchase of .XXX domains will help fund child protection organizations

Some child protection organizations will be given grants/funding from the proceeds of .XXX domains to help with their laudable mission of protecting children. Maybe playgrounds and playscapes that are purchased with this .XXX money could have a sign put up that says ?Your porn dollars at work?, or ?This play area paid for by porn?.




.XXX will protect children

Everyone knows that the minute .XXX gets approved that every porn site in the world will switch to .XXX because it?s the ?responsible? thing to protect children. It is with this 100% shifting to .XXX, that filtering programs can easily identify a porn site since it would have the .XXX extension.

No longer will websites that operate just on an IP number, or using other extensions or operating in countries that don?t subscribe to US policies, cause problems. For once, there will be universal unity and agreement. Just by saying that .XXX will protect children makes it so.




Better to tax the money making pornographers to pay for the .XXX domains than have non-porn websites pay to have a .KIDS TLD

Since porn websites are making so much money, they should be the one to pay for the protection measures that .XXX afford.

.KIDS would certainly be much more effective in its whitelisting approach, that only approved kid-friendly sites would get a .KIDS extension.

But why tax the websites who already paid for their .COM domain names for the sins of the pornographers? The Robin Hood strategy of financing child protection is exactly what Senator Lincoln and other similar porn tax bills have proposed.





.XXX will stop Child Porn websites because they wouldn?t be allowed to get a .XXX domain

No one wants the Child Porn websites around, so those pedos will be excluded from .XXX and usually from .COM as well, since they use those free web hosting places to put their websites up one day and down another anyways.

And we all know that its impossible to get a .COM name with the word Lolita or Beastility in it.. since that would just be too obvious what might be on that website, such that .COM registrars already offer us that level of protection. A .XXX registrar would allow us to all sleep at night, knowing they would be doing their jobs of making sure that the really bad stuff didn?t get a domain name.




.XXX will legitimize porn

With laws being proposed by Congress on the mandatory use of .XXX for porn sites, it will finally more ?legitimize? porn, especially since porn is already ?legit?, but it?s always good to have government approval. So the government will acknowledge the .XXX identifier and all those who don?t like smut, won?t be shocked the next time they visit an innocently looking .COM website and find porn.






Conclusion
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There are many reasons why .XXX is a good thing. There?s something here for everyone. So ignore all those adult webmasters who are against .XXX

Ignore the fact that one of the ICANN requirements for a TLD is that it must represent the wishes of the community, to have built up constituency over the group that the TLD presides over.

There are many people outside of the porn industry who think .XXX is a good idea, so it makes perfect sense to use ICANN to corral them all into a virtual red light district and use the TLD as a way of controlling the content. Better to force one?s personal moral and ethical standards onto another group of people, and the kicker, make them pay for that containment, and use the proceeds from the .XXX domain transactions to do good.

For those that couldn?t read into the satire of the actual commentary presented, the quick summary:

.XXX SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED.




Fight the repeat!

brandon,

Thanks for an amazing, concise, well elucidated letter to ICANN and for your efforts in unifying the community behind opposition to .xxx

If there is anything that we at Gaybucks can do to assist the effort, please don't hesistate to contact me (chip at gaybucks dot com)

AffordableSiteDesign.com
SurferBucks.com

Are officially against .xxx and refuse to use the TDL unless we are forced to by law!

added! thanks for taking a public stand.

i believe the comment period board closes this friday...get your letters of opposition in.. and be sure to state your position against .XXX in the subject line so its easier for them to count up how many are against.


Fight the .XXX!

I saw payserve.com is already on the list and we're still 100% against .xxx!

good luck man , i am against too !

Fight the bump!

It's time to give this a bump, in hopes that those of you who haven't yet posted your disdain for .xxx will do so post-haste, as we're getting down to the wire!!

I believe the ICANN message board closes tomorrow.... last chance to get your name in... and to contact your affiliates to send an email to ICANN.


Fight the last call!

NO .XXX
Jason

I have heard that there can be made restrictions to some sites depending on the way a person uses the keyboard. There are some sites, quite a lot, that use this technology to prevent internet theft. Maybe there can be found a pattern for kids, because it is said never to have failed, and the problem is solved. Then .xxx will have no problem.

NO to. xxx! What crap is this anyway?!

I am glad it is over and I hope this will never come back to our authorities? mind again. It?s settled then!