damn... so you're like a sugar momma to this guy? where do i sign up?
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No one's perfect, this is true, but it sounds like you've gotten involved with a real nutjob here, from what you've said. This person needs to grow up before she ever gets involved in a serious relationship. And not to be mean-spirited, but always remember...dogs are faithful too.
You yourself sound like you have some self-esteem issues. So, knowing this, I'd say that you too should be on your own for awhile, do some growing up and soul-searching, and get to know yourself better as a person before you attempt to involve yourself with anyone else. There are plenty of good people left in the world, they're just not easy to find because all the shitheads jump out at you and say "LOOK AT ME!". But trust me...they're out there. My wife's one of them, if I could clone her and send you a copy then I would. :D
Personally, I disowned my family years ago and it was the best move I ever made. Furthermore, I needed that time alone...REALLY alone...to get my shit together. Sounds like you could use the same. A major part of self-esteem problems is justifying the downfalls of others who you are attached to...you exhibit this pretty clearly (as I did as well). So take it from someone who's been there and done that...terminate this relationship and be single, don't look for another until you do some personal growth of your own. In fact, don't look at all...it will come to you when the time is right. And above all, NEVER SETTLE FOR SECOND BEST. You're worth more than that.
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Will you be my sugar mama?
I'll let you pay my bills. I'll abuse you physically, mentally, and emotionally. I'll sleep on your couch and eat your food. I'll steal from you. I'll lie to you. I'll lie about stealing to you. I'll most likely cheat on you as well.
I have no redeemable qualities. I am a piece of shit.
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Probably a bad assumption since I don't know who you are, bausch, but if you're a female, then simply change the "she"s to "he"s in my original reply. Advice is the same regardless of gender. I just assumed you were male and the person in question was female because in my line of work, I deal mainly with males so it's second nature.
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No, I'm not.
This is person is just "mental" and it's hard for them to take care of themselves. They can hold a job fine for awhile, but they usually get in conflicts/think their workplace is "out to get them" them etc... I think there is something wrong with the person mentally, their family made them see a psych before but the person always thinks they are right and that there's nothing wrong with them.
I don't really want to always help bail this person out but they always make me feel like I'm supposed to, they always say stuff like : "I thought I was your baby",when I try to say no and things like "Oh, so it's all about money right?"
I only help them pay small bills, it's not a lot. If they lived with me I guess I don't care if they don't pay rent rent because I would have to pay it anyways, whether I was alone or with this person, so it doesn't make a difference ...Comment
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I am not saying that I'm female. I am also not saying that I am male, because whatever I say will subconsciously affect people's answers... Just think of the question as something that could apply to any person, regardless of gender; whether the act of taking something which does not belong to you, and then lying about it, is a forgivable offense.Comment
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You sound like a pretty smart person.
But if people steal from you, you should tell them to fuck off.Comment
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Your friend sounds like he/she is at the beginning stages of paranoid schizofrenia. That gets ugly.Comment
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Someone who truly loves and respects you would never steal from you... and if you have such a great relationship then they should have been able come to you to ask for your help...Comment
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Yea you are probably right... very good analysis...No one's perfect, this is true, but it sounds like you've gotten involved with a real nutjob here, from what you've said. This person needs to grow up before she ever gets involved in a serious relationship. And not to be mean-spirited, but always remember...dogs are faithful too.
You yourself sound like you have some self-esteem issues. So, knowing this, I'd say that you too should be on your own for awhile, do some growing up and soul-searching, and get to know yourself better as a person before you attempt to involve yourself with anyone else. There are plenty of good people left in the world, they're just not easy to find because all the shitheads jump out at you and say "LOOK AT ME!". But trust me...they're out there. My wife's one of them, if I could clone her and send you a copy then I would. :D
Personally, I disowned my family years ago and it was the best move I ever made. Furthermore, I needed that time alone...REALLY alone...to get my shit together. Sounds like you could use the same. A major part of self-esteem problems is justifying the downfalls of others who you are attached to...you exhibit this pretty clearly (as I did as well). So take it from someone who's been there and done that...terminate this relationship and be single, don't look for another until you do some personal growth of your own. In fact, don't look at all...it will come to you when the time is right. And above all, NEVER SETTLE FOR SECOND BEST. You're worth more than that.
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I already know which you are, but will not clarify so others don't know.
The answer to your question is very simple, regardless of any gender... stealing is never acceptable. This shouldn't even be a question. You know the answer. After all of the things you have posted about this person, I have no idea why any sane person would stay with them.Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted
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Yes that is what I think they have. Their not schizo where they hear voices, but they interpret things differently than normal people. For example, if someone were to give a normal person a stare, the normal person would probably not care, but this person would interpret it as something menacing and start getting all paranoid...
They thought our old place might be wiretapped by their work and sometimes would write things on paper instead of just talking to me. I'm serious.
They act very "normal" though. This person talks normally most of the time, is pretty sociable, has friends, knows how to converse with people, is very presentable. If you were to meet this person you would not be able to tell that they were so crazy.Last edited by bausch; 03-06-2007, 04:48 PM.Comment
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If bausch is a female rather than a male that makes this situation doubly pathetic. With a guy I can at least figure, hey, maybe you make a great living and are putting up with this nonsense just for the pussy even if they are a thief and untrustworthy, dishonest person.
Now if you are female bausch then you are letting some douchebag thief steal your stuff, then you have serious self esteem issues, not unlike say, the porn stars and strippers that let loser, asshole boyfriends mooch off of them or pimp them out, beat them, and mistreat them. Women like that crave the abuse due to their own horrible upbringings and rationalize away the behavior because they think that "he loves them".
Either way grow a spine and get this horrible person out of your life.Comment
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Also, why would you consider it stealing per se? Perhaps I worded the topic of my thread wrong.
I DID buy one hard drive for this person and one for me. So perhaps this person just took THEIR hard drive and they just happened to take mine as well and not tell me about it? Is that really considered stealing?Comment
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Possible schizophrenia. I had a roommate who was the exact same way. When I met him he was taking medication and everything was fine. Then he stopped and all hell broke loose. I had the Secret Service visit me one day because he was writing strange letters to the Bush Twins.
People with schizophrenia are usually fine on medication. The problem is, once on medication they start thinking they're all better so they stop the medication and everything goes crazy til their next hospital stay. There are new products available where the person can get a shot once a month and they work great, the problem is again they usually stop getting them, and getting a judge to court order something like that is extremely difficult.Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted
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I find that a bit sexist. Why would the situation be more pathetic IF I was woman, which I am not saying I am, but IF I was. How would you know that I don't make a great living and perhaps put up with this nonsense for companionship even if they are a thief and an untrustworthy, dishonest person, if I was a woman?
Do you automatically assume that women are weak and can't make a good living? Do you think only men can make a good living?
Their should be no standards, it should be 50/50. It's not the dark ages anymore.Last edited by bausch; 03-06-2007, 04:55 PM.Comment
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You said you bought it for but you didn't give it to him yet. Either way, they took yours, which you did not give. That IS stealing.
You stick up for this person way too much. Do they have a wonder cock/pussy? Seriously, why are you staying with this person? Do they make you feel good about yourself by helping them?Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted
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Yes, yes, this is exactly it. This person is also planning to write a letter to the president/owner of the company he used to work for to explain them "everything", whatever "everything" is.
The person I'm seeing is also a bit of a hypochondriac, they like to take these strange herbs from this site called http://www.actionlove.com and claim they have terrible headaches when they don't take these pills.Comment
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It gets worse... The TV presenter is wearing a red shirt that day, and that is a signal to your friend that he someone is out to get him/her, and shit like that. Be careful around people like that. Best thing to do, if it is not immediate family, is to just cut them off completely.Comment
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Tell your boyfriend that Warchild says if he stops being so queer, he'll be able to get a job and people will stop trying to bring him down. Straighten up and fly right!.Comment
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I even offered to help this person make money selling porn, if they listen to me I could guarantee they would make money. I showed them the basics already but they find it too stressful and haven't done one thing in 5 months since they walked out on their job. They just can't do it and find it too stressful, they would rather watch porn than sell it of course...
Plus also they couldn't start the work because they were too busy researching for weeks if not months about the "letter" they were going to write to the big man at their old workplace.Comment
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I think this pretty much gave your gender away, lol
Unfortunately, in this day and age, women still tend to make less in many jobs. It's not exactly a big secret. It's pathetic, but it's unfortunately true. It has nothing to do with women being weak, it has to do with sexist management. 40 years from now, when the current old management is dead, things will be different.
Double standards exist on both sides of the fence. Men usually don't make a fuss over double standards against men (and we have PLENTY to complain about) but I've yet to know a woman IRL that hasn't complained at one point in time about double standards against women. Us men are, still to this day, expected to just "toughen up" and take all the bullshit that's thrown at us, while women are allowed to complain all they want (a perfect example of a double standard against men). None of this will ever change until the sexist mindset of our fucked up culture is destroyed.
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No it hasn't gotten to this point. I don't think it will though. This person is only concerned with people in the real world, not tv people (yet).
I read that the "Seeing things in the tv" thing is mainly a symptom of regular shizophrenia where people hear voices.
My significant other never hears voices. They only get paranoid.Comment
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take it as a hint, let them keep the drive and ipod and never see them again.
You got out cheap.Comment
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Yes. If I purchased two of something so we could have one each, and my partner took mine without asking then it defeats the purpose of buying one for each. We're not talking about a chocolate bar, it is an object of value to you both in monetary and practical forms... you purchased that drive because you needed it, right? The person who took it completely disregarded that when they removed it from your possession.
bausch, you really need to get on top of this and move on. It sounds like you are both unusual people, but it's still painfully obvious that you are being seriously used by this person. I wish you'd see that.Comment
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Print CL page as proof, have a friend buy it on CL, and give it to the theif as a gift. Then tell them they better like it because they better never come within 100 yards of your place again.Comment
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It's time to move on, but let her know that you know what she did. Show her the proof too, so there can be no dispute. Then walk away. If she can live with the shame, so be it, you're definately better off without her.Got Foot Fetish Traffic? These sites will make you $$$...
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Yea you're right. It's not the first time the person stole from me. I didn't want to say it in the beginning of the thread because that would make people even more biased. I wanted people to judge the severity of the act based on one incident of stealing, not several.
Last time during a bad fight around a few months ago (which I started) this person withdrew $500 out of my checking account. They have my pin code cause I gave it to them because sometimes I will give them my my card go buy groceries for us, use it for gas etc... At first they denied it too but they ended up admitting it to me. I was mad of course but I got over it and forgot about it.
It's not like I work hard slaving away in a 9-5 job making low wages, I always have tons of checks rolling in like all the time. My significant other knows this and this and said "Ohhh it's only $500, you act like I stole tens of thousands from you, what's a few hundred dollars?" It kind of irks me that they say this even though they have no money at all, but whatevers....
They used part of that money to pay bills and the other half to buy some spy tool shit, some weird device that can detect hidden cameras...
I don't think this person is malicious or evil, I think they are just "childlike" and just don't know what's wrong or right. Plus in THEIR mind they are TRULY convinced someone is after them so therefore they felt they had no choice but to "borrow" my money to buy that spy device. To them it really was a matter of life and death.Last edited by bausch; 03-06-2007, 05:38 PM.Comment
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Stealing is the act of taking something without asking. If the money really meant so little to you then they could have easily asked for it. What you make is irrelevant; it is still stealing.Comment
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Because successful women who make a great living- which I assume you are- don't need nor do they generally want to pay for sex in effect by supporting some lazy, shiftless, dishonest significant other. That's only something alpha males with money do if they are cocksman who wants to bang young chippies even if it cost them some money and they have to put up with bullshit.
If you are a woman making any kind of living and the fact that you are willing to rationalize away some horrible person shitting on you daily by stealing from you means there is something wrong with you, usually low self esteem.
The best solution either way is dump the loser and find a real man (or woman) who treats you nicely.Last edited by Jim_Gunn; 03-06-2007, 05:44 PM.Comment
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Well, I'm not a woman, but usually whoever pays is the one that has the power. If a woman wants to pay then that's great for her. Perhaps she's just independent and doesn't need anything from a man. I think that is a commendable trait and something to be praised, not put down!
A lot of females I know would actually prefer to pay for the guy as long as the guy is FAITHFUL. If a woman wants a guy to stay faithful it's better for her NOT to go for an alpha man , because ALPHA MEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO CHEAT!!!!!!!!
A lot of women now don't WANT a man to pay. If men pay, they are more likely to feel entitled, and like you SAID, alpha males just want to bang tons of girls.
So a woman who wants a monogamous relationshiop has a better chance with a NON ALPHA MALE.
I would prefer to pay as long as the other person does not cheat. If someone is an alpha anything, male or female, they will be more likely to fuck around.
Perhaps an alpha woman likes to pay because she doesn't want to be cheated on!Last edited by bausch; 03-06-2007, 05:48 PM.Comment
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that's kinda funny... someone steals from you, tries to sell it, you catch them red-handed and then you consider forgiving them?
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Perhaps she'd rather be treated badly by someone lazy instead of being cheated by some alpha male!
I would rather pick a poor lazy person who treats me badly than an alpha individual who cheats!
What is good about an alpha male if he's gonna cheat? Who would want that? That's just as bad as a lazy person who steals from you.
They are BOTH equally bad!Comment
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It's not so black and white in the real world. There are plenty of good people. You don't need to settle for second best.
I'll leave you with this:
Is there really that much difference with dishonesty about who he sleeps with, versus dishonesty about what he's blatantly stolen from you?Comment
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If a person cheats on you, it's for generally one of two reasons:
1. They've got a problem with faithfulness, and would cheat on anyone
2. They're not happy with you and like the way they feel with someone else
Issue 1 is their problem, issue 2 is usually yours.
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I'd be kicking some ass to the curb, seriously!
You will not be able to trust them around anything. You don't have to be poor, but you also don't have to be a chump.
This person you care for is taking advantage of you. They will eventually see that you notice that they have no respect for you and you haven't done anything about it, and sell something you really care about.ICQ: 330-164-445Comment
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Yes, cheating is MUCH worse than stealing because I would forget about the money real fast because there's always more coming in.
Cheating would be traumatizing forever because I would always wonder;
"What did the other person look like? Were they better than me? Why did they choose that person over me? What did that person have that I don't have? Why am I not good enough? What could I do to prevent this from happening again? Oh great, now I'll die alone cause I'm traumatized for life. How was the sex with the other person? Where they really good? " etc etc
I would lose a lot of sleep over it. I would be mad if someone stole from me but I wouldn't lose any sleep over it unless it was big amounts...
Cheating is the ultimate betrayal.Last edited by bausch; 03-06-2007, 06:05 PM.Comment
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100 thieves... edit: (shit I'm early
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