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  • Dollarmansteve
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    • May 2005
    • 2849

    #1

    I might consider this for a car upgrade...

    So, Im a GM man - my father worked at GM and I've always driven GM cars. In the past it sucked ass because GM didnt make any decent product, AT ALL. Now, things are a little different.. and there are actually some decent choices.

    I currently drive one of these:



    It's not bad, it has balls - 240hp / 240lb-ft toruqe and a 6-spd manual, loaded leather, etc, etc.. It's a pretty nice car. But Im in a position to make a serious upgrade.

    Now, Pontiac just released this car at the autoshow, wont be available Until Jan '08:

    Pontiac G8



    Not a huge fan of the hood scoops - I somehow dont think they'll be on EVERY production model, but probably on the high end GTP/GXP version. Now, the attraction is the 362hp 6.0L V8 AND RWD But, it seems there are no plans for a manual transmission.

    My other option is to go big, I buy one of these used for $10-$12k to kick around in the winter:



    And I get one of these babies to drive 8 months of the year (but not in yellow):



    ahh.. decisions decisions..
    I died.
  • woj
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    • Jul 2002
    • 47880

    #2
    I thought I would never say that, but that G8 actually looks decent... looks kinda like a beemer for half the price, heh
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    • Dildozer
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      • Jul 2002
      • 7519

      #3
      Gotta love how it takes them 6 liters of displacement to make only 360 hp.
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      • Grapesoda
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        • Jul 2003
        • 46234

        #4
        Originally posted by Dollarmansteve


        ahh.. decisions decisions..

        I have the '04 c5 and I'm gonna pick up the '08 c6 this year or early next next . . the vette is really a great cars to dive in every way . .

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        • jryan89
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          • Nov 2006
          • 818

          #5
          very nice looking car!

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          • Grapesoda
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            • Jul 2003
            • 46234

            #6
            Originally posted by Dildozer
            Gotta love how it takes them 6 liters of displacement to make only 360 hp.
            natural air flow . . . makes a huge diff . . my vette gets 350 hp out of 5.7 litters but you can fuck with them and get about 800 . . they are gonna produce the blue devil, 7 liters with dual super chargers . . 700 hp . . that should be plenty . .

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            • Dollarmansteve
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              • May 2005
              • 2849

              #7
              Originally posted by Dildozer
              Gotta love how it takes them 6 liters of displacement to make only 360 hp.
              Gotta love how mechanically complicated and heavy a massive multi-valve overhead cam system is...

              This is a common argument, it seems that it is somehow "unsophisticated" to use a simple, light, high-displacement engine.

              The lowly 'pushrod' engines (a term that the valve-o-philes love to use to 'demean' OHV engines) built by GM - especially the jewel - the 7.0L 505hp engine in the Z06 - are the most powerful and technically advanced 'pushrod' engines ever mass produced. And, seeing as the Z06 is one of the lightest and fastest production cars on the planet - there seems to be little argument for a needlessly complicated low-displacement whiz-bang of an engine.

              But, to each their own - some people like non-turbocharged torque. I happen to be one of those people. Sure, a 2.0L engine in an S2000 gets 120HP per litre because it revs to 9500rpm - but I dont drive on a racetrack every day, I drive on city streets and government highways.
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              • Dollarmansteve
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                • May 2005
                • 2849

                #8
                Originally posted by Wanton
                I have the '04 c5 and I'm gonna pick up the '08 c6 this year or early next next . . the vette is really a great cars to dive in every way . .
                how is it as a daily driver as far as comfort is concerned?

                Also - how big is the trunk? I have a cottage that's about 300 miles away so I would be making that trip often..
                I died.

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                • Grapesoda
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 46234

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dollarmansteve
                  Gotta love how mechanically complicated and heavy a massive multi-valve overhead cam system is...

                  This is a common argument, it seems that it is somehow "unsophisticated" to use a simple, light, high-displacement engine.

                  The lowly 'pushrod' engines (a term that the valve-o-philes love to use to 'demean' OHV engines) built by GM - especially the jewel - the 7.0L 505hp engine in the Z06 - are the most powerful and technically advanced 'pushrod' engines ever mass produced. And, seeing as the Z06 is one of the lightest and fastest production cars on the planet - there seems to be little argument for a needlessly complicated low-displacement whiz-bang of an engine.

                  But, to each their own - some people like non-turbocharged torque. I happen to be one of those people. Sure, a 2.0L engine in an S2000 gets 120HP per litre because it revs to 9500rpm - but I dont drive on a racetrack every day, I drive on city streets and government highways.

                  right with ya there . . I so love going 80 with 2K on the tach I so love driving around town and never breaking 1.5K on the tach if i chose too . . and that's with the 5.7 . . crap my vette doesn't even really get excited til about 120 mph . .

                  I do have the 3:15 rear end . . the c6 is stock with the 2.50 rear end . . gonna drive the c6 someday soon . . see how much fun it is in person . . not gonna get the z06 'cause I drive in heavy traffic all the time . .

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                  • Dollarmansteve
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                    • May 2005
                    • 2849

                    #10
                    Originally posted by woj
                    I thought I would never say that, but that G8 actually looks decent... looks kinda like a beemer for half the price, heh
                    Ya man, Im telling you - GM cars dont suck anymore. It's hard to believe, I know - I lived through all the crappy years (ie the 1990s), I've driven the piece of shit cars (i've had a sunfure, a cavalier, a grand am a grand prix, I even still have a 1985 Fiero GT in peices..in my parents Driveway). I am still impressed with the quality of my G6, especially the interior. And this new G8 looks pretty sick (praying for a manual tranny though!!!)
                    I died.

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                    • Galina Los
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                      • Sep 2005
                      • 393

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dildozer
                      Gotta love how it takes them 6 liters of displacement to make only 360 hp.
                      true. lol!
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                      • Grapesoda
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                        • Jul 2003
                        • 46234

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dollarmansteve
                        how is it as a daily driver as far as comfort is concerned?

                        Also - how big is the trunk? I have a cottage that's about 300 miles away so I would be making that trip often..
                        my vette is a GREAT daily driver . .. very, very, very comfortable . . and any issues with noise are addressed with the new vettes . . the hatch back is huge . . plenty of room . . go check one out . . and don't forget the GTO and the caddy CTSV both have the vette motor in them with a bit more room. BTW I average about 24 MPG

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                        • lorine
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                          • Jan 2007
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                          #13
                          I like the car that you own right now.I wouldn`t change it if I were you,but I`m not !
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                          • BAKO
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                            • Jul 2005
                            • 18487

                            #14
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                            • BAKO
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                              • Jul 2005
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                              #15
                              I bought my CLS 550 Benz last year, Germans make the best cars
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                              • Kimo
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                                • Jan 2006
                                • 11542

                                #16
                                the g8 looks fly
                                ...

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                                • Trax
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                                  • Aug 2001
                                  • 14486

                                  #17
                                  this is so interesting for so many reasons
                                  you keep buying gm cars basically because your father worked there
                                  i am sorry bro but youre missing out

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                                  • MsWild
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                                    • Apr 2006
                                    • 2803

                                    #18
                                    great looking cars...cool ride
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                                    • BV
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                                      • Sep 2001
                                      • 10914

                                      #19
                                      GM Baby!



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                                      • uno
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                                        • Dec 2002
                                        • 18450

                                        #20
                                        Get a Benz. I don't really want to drive anything else since I got one.
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                                        • Grapesoda
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                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 46234

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by uno
                                          Get a Benz. I don't really want to drive anything else since I got one.

                                          which benz did you get?

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                                          • Dollarmansteve
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2005
                                            • 2849

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Trax
                                            this is so interesting for so many reasons
                                            you keep buying gm cars basically because your father worked there
                                            i am sorry bro but youre missing out
                                            Meh - My girlfriend does the benz thing, she currently has an '06 SLK280, had a CLK before and will probably get an ML next. Personally I dont like the Mercerdes driving experience (especially for the price...) and you can't get a manual tranny in a benz.

                                            If I wanted a car to race with, I would get a Honda S2000. I lived with one for a couple weeks when my gf's brother was away - you can't live with them everyday - they're noisy and uncomfortable. BUT you can show up at a race track and have the time of your life.

                                            For pure driving experience and daily drivability, BMW is the top of my list, but It's not a 'dream' car for me.. a corvette Z06 is. Not to mention the cost, I save around 30 - 40% because of GM family pricing and incentives. It would be insane of me not drive a new GM car every 3-4 years.

                                            So I dont feel like Im missing out on anything really.
                                            I died.

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