100 angry mother fuckers
are you violent?
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well, if i'm really pissed off and i'm drunk i could be violent but not to the extent of hurting someone...i just shout get some bottle, chairs or other things to throw to burst out my anger...
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Care to give me examples when violence is the only option?
Keeping in mind not to exclude any events leading up to the point when violence BECOMES the only option.Comment
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idiotNo, you're right, I have never met you. I can only judge based on the character you've shown over the years. I could be wrong, but here's what makes me believe you're a coward at heart:
1) Cowardly by actions. You were talking about killing yourself. Either you were too afraid to ask for help or you really thought running away from life was a great escape.
2) Cowardly by thoughts. You spent a great deal of time telling one my good friends about how you've never been a confident person, couldn't talk to girls. This is not the attitude of a self confident person. I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if you met your wife over the Internet.
3) Cowardly by genes. You have French ancestory.
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Its not mine, Dogbert said it to Dilbert after Dilbert continually repeated "If you dont vote, you have no right to complain!" and Dilbert couldnt answer why he had that opinion.
Sir, the irony of the immaturity of you taking a cheap shot at someone for being named "child" is intense.
'Resorting' to violence because one is 'angry' does not classify a violent person, but an angry person. There are many ways to deal with anger and violence is one of them.
If what you say is true, it makes him an angry person. Not a violent person.
I disagree, but i think its very nice of you to list both negotiation, politics (negotiation kinda falls under this one doesnt it?) and coercion (which is a method of negotiation). I would even go as far as to say that in this grand scheme of things, 'violence' would also fall under politics.Violence, even as a tool, is used when all other options are exhausted. A leader (not the make shift ones like Bush) should consider all options... from negotiation, politics, cohersion... what have you, and have violence as one of those options. But it's only the first option of those who are incapable to even consider any of the other options first.
"But it's only the first option of those who are incapable to even consider any of the other options first."
Please, go ahead and explain why. Thats what i asked in my previous post
(the one you replied to with this post that i am now replying to. We could have saved a neat amount of time if you had just explained already.)
I dont know where you are trying to go with the whole bush-iraq thing, I thought we were discussing wheter or not violence ever may be the 'correct' first choice in a given situation. Again, I say that it may be and you say that it may never be.
I have explained why I belive that violence is the optimal choice of action if the situation calls for it and you have repeated what you said before. Are you going to repeat it again? This is not a remake of the Monty Python Argument Sketch. (yes it is, no it isnt.)
Is this what you consider an 'intellectual' debate?
Please sir, just list your arguments instead of your opinions.Last edited by Narfle; 02-28-2007, 04:01 PM.Comment
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when you are standing in the school yard and the known bully comes up to you, pushes you and says "i am gonna beat your ass because i hate jews like you (or whatever)" and he is known to do just that.
you have two options
1) go for the first shot and try to take him down before he knocks you around
2) try to explain that violence solves nothing and give him your witty, "intellectual" bumper sticker quotes as he beats your ass
just the fact that you can't possible imagine a scenario that immediately requires violence, proves my point. at least my view is somewhat moderate... that i believe there is a time and place for violence/fighting. your view is extreme and irrational in that you just can't possibly imagine having to fight as a first line of defense.
hopefully you will never have to explain to your wife that you didn't just watch her get raped, you were actually busy trying to "reach him" and make him understand that you should be able to just discuss whats bothering him.Comment
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went to boxing a couple hours ago. and after talking to one of the guys i was sparring with and had known for a while, i learned he was actually an attorney for IEG in their final days. that proves that sometimes fighting is just funny.Comment
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