Would You Drive 5 Miles Less To Stop Gulf Drilling?
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I think we need to let it take some time, electric cars are the easiest to switch fast. Then when batteries are cheaper we can start making all trucks electrical. For planes we can use biofuels, there have been several successful tests mixing biofuel with jetfuel. The real hard part will be ships.
I'm optimistic and think that by 2020 all cars sold will be electric and by 2050 95% of all transportation will be electric and the rest will use biofuels.
Hopefully generation 4 nuclear plants will solve any problems we will have generating electricity.Alea iacta estComment
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When you do a comparison like this though, you can't just go by US consumption charts. A fair chunk of our "stuff" comes from other countries. That oil must be factored in. That's why these charts are inaccurate. Taking just one item again, the car... many of our cars are imports. All the oil required by those factories and their workers and their transportation getting it here, etc. must count against our oil consumption, because with imported items it's no longer about our oil cost... but rather total oil consumption.
Same could be said for exports. The receiving country is the end consumer of all the oil used in the process of making whatever it is they imported.
My reasoning for this is simple. It's the same principle that is applied to anything. No demand for something, no oil used in making or shipping it. I feel our concerns are misplaced as a nation. Everyone is all hot to "go green" and get themselves an electric car, but unless we figure out a way to replace oil completely, nothing changes. And remember, the electricity you're fueling your new car with.... came from an electric plant that's using oil to make your electricity. The ships need fuel to bring the oil to the plant. And all those workers at the plant, driving their cars and trucks, and buying their oil products.... and on and on and on.SIG TOO BIGComment
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2004 is like stone age away when it comes to modern world time ;)
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I wonder what are the things that are going to get chopped off that list first as oil becomes more expensive as the supply starts to dwindle...probably sooner than later...Oil is used in the powering, lubrication, and manufacture of everything. So even if gasoline accounts for a good chunk of our consumption, the effects of replacement are least felt on the automobile. It's one item.
Here are just a few of the other things we need oil for:
Those are just a sampling. There are many many more.... jet fuel, train fuel, ship fuel, electrical generation fuel.... so in my personal opinion, any statistics that show cars as the most significant consumption of oil is inaccurate, and why I say getting an electric car won't make any difference. Not unless you're also willing to give up everything else.Comment
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We're not going to run out of oil tomorrow, but I think things will just gradually keep getting more and more expensive as the oil supplies go down. For example, at some point only the wealthy will be flying in planes.SIG TOO BIGComment
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You need to start somewhere, we can't do it all at once. Since oil is just hydrocarbons and we know we can synthezise those, it it just a matter of time before we are able to replace everything.
The question is how much will the seawater level rise before we are done, 10 centimeter, 1 meter or 10 meters. We humans are the only ones that risk to be hard hit by this, nature will adapt to rising tempratures, other types of pollution is more critical for mother nature.
When you do a comparison like this though, you can't just go by US consumption charts. A fair chunk of our "stuff" comes from other countries. That oil must be factored in. That's why these charts are inaccurate. Taking just one item again, the car... many of our cars are imports. All the oil required by those factories and their workers and their transportation getting it here, etc. must count against our oil consumption, because with imported items it's no longer about our oil cost... but rather total oil consumption.
Same could be said for exports. The receiving country is the end consumer of all the oil used in the process of making whatever it is they imported.
My reasoning for this is simple. It's the same principle that is applied to anything. No demand for something, no oil used in making or shipping it. I feel our concerns are misplaced as a nation. Everyone is all hot to "go green" and get themselves an electric car, but unless we figure out a way to replace oil completely, nothing changes. And remember, the electricity you're fueling your new car with.... came from an electric plant that's using oil to make your electricity. The ships need fuel to bring the oil to the plant. And all those workers at the plant, driving their cars and trucks, and buying their oil products.... and on and on and on.Alea iacta estComment
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Run out, no. but even the US military is looking at the political and social problems that could be coming as supplies start to dwindle...
"The US military has warned that surplus oil production capacity could disappear within two years and there could be serious shortages by 2015 with a significant economic and political impact."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...duction-supplyComment
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Let's hope so.
Of course, if we don't find a suitable replacement at some stage, the world's militarys will be hanging on to the last of the oil. That's why we are setting up Walmarts and McDonalds in the middle east now. The US intends to keep that oil over there for ourselves. (anyone that really believes we went there to "liberate Iraqis" is delusional.)
Interesting thought though.... these countries that built themselves around oil, like Saudi Arabia, are fucked when the wells run dry. At least Dubai is trying to transform themselves into a resort area. Who the fuck wants to go to Saudi Arabia though?SIG TOO BIGComment
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I barely drive 5.4 miles a day.In the US per person consumption of gasoline is 428 gallons per year on average, while in Europe is 59 gallons. Yes, the average US citizen uses 6.2 times more gasoline per person per year than does the average European resident.
The US uses 9.989 million barrels of oil per day to make gasoline (keep in mind that though a barrel contains 42 gallons of crude oil, it doesn't all go to gasoline). If we just reduced our gasoline consumption to five times that of Europe we'd knock 1.8 million barrels of oil off our daily habit.
How much oil comes from all the offshore oil wells in the Gulf of Mexico? 1.75 million barrels.
By reducing gasoline consumption by 20% we can never drill in the Gulf again. That breaks down to reducing your daily driving average by 5.4 miles.
So, could it be done? The average person was driving less last summer when gas prices were reaching all time highs...but would the average person drive less to prevent potential disasters like the current Gulf spill?
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