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I find it odd that nowhere in the government issued 9/11 Commission Report does it even mention that WTC 7 collapsed.
The fact that it pancaked, is extremely significant, inasmuch as the type of damage it sustained was far different from the damage to WTC 1 and 2.
If most of the damage was on one face of the building, and it collapsed as a result, then it would seem that the building should not collapse in the manner in which it did.
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The conspiracy theorists love to quote errors and things that were said in a situation of chaos.
Their favorite is the "pull it" from Silverstein, in their ear it means pull the building down, and not pull the people out.
Another one is "that was not a commercial plane" from a woman sreaming on the street, i.o.w. then it can't be commercial plane.
Man, that day was so crazy and confusing, that anything said also sounded crazy afterwards. I was watching a danish reporter when the first tower went down and he said "its coming lots of smoke out of it now"...
... it was confusing, but those conspiracy theorists crack me up
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Here is building 7 falling in less than 6 seconds.
NO ONE was confused because it fell and then the huge puff of smoke filled the air.
Remember reporters are only there to read the bluescreens thats what they get paid to do.Comment
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Absolute power is the answer.
People needed to die. America needed to feel venerable. They needed to creat a fear so great that it would change the course of the country and the mindset of the people. Job well done.
Stopping an "almost" disaster would not have done it. They planned this out, executed the plan, and now have absolute power. They even have power over foreign banking that they never had before, power to detain people without charge, indefinitely, power to do anything under the shield of "national security" and the power to wage wars, unjust or not, against anyone they see fit. And we all know there is big money in wars, huge money.Comment
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Dude your little GIF proves nothing. You act like its the "smoking gun" of the greatest conspiracy made by the dumbest US government ever. Get fucking real who CARES about WTC 7 anyways? No one died there, I suppose since you think WTC 7 was "pulled" you think the twin were too? Where is your little GIFs for those? You are a serious fucking idiot there are people on this board that hate me for my views and likewise yet we can agree even on this subject.Comment
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I once stated I was going to take a shit but then realized that I wasn't quite ready.someone called Alex Jones (infowars.com)
and said that there is video footage from the BBC archives reporting Building 7 had collapsed
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in fact it would be another 23 minutes before it actually collapses
how did they know that Building 7 had collapsed before it actually came down.
once it was reported about the video, BBC remove it from their website...
but some people had already downloaded it, so we will see it in the next few days
someone alert the press.I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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This gif proves alot. No building falls that fast and that straight down on itself without the help from a controlled demolition. Period !!!
Watch any building fall on the discovery channel and they all fall the same way as that little gif you see.
Rigging a building to fall that fast and that perfect requires weeks of planing. So if you think that a bulding could fall that perfect because of a few fires then, I guess you will believe anything.Comment
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And the people that typed in the info on the video, are they also confused? It clearly says on the video that Building 7 collapsed.
I think that the reporters are "not" on it. As some people might suggest. I just think that the propaganda machine jumped the gun a bit early and reported to the reporters what they already new was going to happen.
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tsk..tsk..cheers!
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Hay, don't blame the messenger.
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But it does seem odd..I'm no structural engineer but having 3 huge concrete and steel buildings collapse due to fires does seem to defy logic...
If you don't have anything concrete to add to this thread then don't say anything...
People are speaking up but not a lot of people are listening...
I'll get to the not breathing part right after we get to the bottom of why #7 was pulled...
Sometimes the truth is harder to swallow than the lie..but to be free we have to know..we have to speak out...I just got out of the military in August, Went to Afghanistan twice, Iraq once... Most of the soldiers I was around voted democrat, thought Bin Ladden was from Iraq, and hated Bush...
As far as 9/11... the truth is better off as a secret. Because the shit I found out will make you so fucking depressed....
Just to refresh your memory...do you remember the Oklahoma bombing?..do you remember the devastation the explosion wreaked on the facade??...BUT THE REST OF THE BUILDING WAS STILL STANDING after the smoke cleared!! Can you justify the huge hole in #7 with it's eventual collapse..just doesn't add up.
The Founding Fathers are probably spinning in their graves with what has happened to this beloved nation...Land of the Free??...The checks and balances you talk about are illusionary...just look at the last 2 elections...stolen by W and not a peep was heard...
Thanks for finding the video..good to see it as I thought the BBC had erased it from their archives..TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.Comment
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Don't compare. I think you should read the NIST report:
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If Bill Clinton was President these same right wing nuts would be singing a different tune. They investigated a 50k land deal for 6 fucking years. and impeached him for lying about a blow job.
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Wrong.
The impeachable offenses were: perjury, subornation of perjury, filing a false affidavit, witness tampering, lying to a grand jury, abuse of power, etc..
The underlying issue is almost irrelevent. It could have been wiping his ass, a blow job, or even your mother.
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as you said, you are no structural engineer. so why do u keep commenting about how a building will react to fire/bombs etc. having a concrete and steel building fail due to fire does not defy logic at all. do you know the difference between steel and concrete and how they react to fire/heat ?
i dont know anything about the oklahoma building itself, but i can guarantee that its not structurally the same as the wtc buildings (so comparing different buildings to different events is really stupid. ie a bomb and a fire are incredibly different). if the bomb devastated the facade and the rest of the building was still standing, then obviously the main structural elements werent at the facade of the building (which is how such buildings are built most of the time)Comment
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Not sure why you assume such a sarcastic attitude towards me, when I didn't claim in my post to be versed in structural engineering, nor an expert in demolitions (as if that is required for the points which I posited).
If you wish to respond to the points I raised directly, here is what I wrote again, point by point:
Why, in a supposedly comprehensive report, is this pretty significant event - the collapse of a 47-story building, totally ignored?I find it odd that nowhere in the government issued 9/11 Commission Report does it even mention that WTC 7 collapsed.
Did a 767 aircraft laden with fuel crash into WTC 7? I think we can all agree, no that did not happen. There have been many other tall buildings made of steel with far more significant fires, that did not collapse.The fact that it pancaked, is extremely significant, inasmuch as the type of damage it sustained was far different from the damage to WTC 1 and 2.
Please show me an example of another steel reinforced building that has collapsed in the same manner as WTC 7 as a result of fire.
If WTC 7 collapsed primarily as a result of structural failure to one side of it (or a combination of that and a fire at the same levels as the structural failure), then it would stand to reason that it would collapse in the direction of the weakness.If most of the damage was on one face of the building, and it collapsed as a result, then it would seem that the building should not collapse in the manner in which it did.
Do a Google image search of "building collapse", and you'll see what I mean when the example features a building that collapsed as a result of damage to a particular face of the structure.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, nor do I proclaim to have absolute answers to what happened in this instance. I've simply read accounts and watched videos by experts and kooks on both sides of this issue. No one has absolutely convinced me one way or the other.
Therefore, don't be so quick to condemn me simply for asking/raising questions.
If you accept the Bush Administration argument that the U.S. had to invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam Hussein due to the overwhelming evidence of WMDs, even though this was ultimately proven to be false, then I assume it will be impossible for you to question anything that is fed to you by the media manipulators representing similar positions on 9/11 or other issues, even though you decry people on the other side who even so much as question what happened.
One thing I do understand is PsyOp (Psychological Operations), in which extremist fringe elements (straw man tin foil puppets) are sometimes created in order to easily be discredited, drawing attention away from actual experts that have less sensational but more compelling arguments that challenge the staus quo.
The U.S. government/military would never engage in psychological ops though, would they?
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Again, unless you are old enough to remember the day, you really should just shut up and stop making yourself look as dumb as maddawgz.
They type what is reported to them, the reported isn't reading what is scrolling across the screen.
There were a lot of misreported "facts" that day.
I remember specifically a reporter announcing that a US Army helicopter hit the Pentagon.Comment
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The problem is that everyone wanted to be the first to report a breaking story, and fact checking was exactly a priority that day.
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i thought building 7 was blown on purpose and that it was planned and had nothing to do with the attacks?...Comment
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..perhaps also 18 USC 241 & 242 "Conspiracy to deny civil rights" for the effort of the chief law enforcement officer of this country (and his cronies) to deny a woman, Paula Jones, a fair trial.Wrong.
The impeachable offenses were: perjury, subornation of perjury, filing a false affidavit, witness tampering, lying to a grand jury, abuse of power, etc..
The underlying issue is almost irrelevent. It could have been wiping his ass, a blow job, or even your mother.
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Monday, Feb 26. The Interweb
Once again, underachieving, insecure, chronically paraniod and irretrievably delusional pornographers gathered on Monday to construct insanely complex conspiracy theories from simple, easily explainable events. "What we are seeing is a growing trend where places like GFY, Warcraft and Second Life continue to play a larger and larger role in offering refuge to the socially retarded, delusional and the clinically paranoid, burger flippers turned gallery builders of the world" said one webmaster. He continued, "as the world becomes more tech savy, the worlds geeks and idiots have abandoned computer terminology, lingo and jargon as a means of putting others down, having found that furiously inventing and debating online conspiracy theories is a much better method for convincing themselves of their own superiority over others and building their own self image and self confidence... afterall, you can't disprove a negative so its 100% safe and effective. Particularly when you can just claim every fact that refutes previous facts is also part of a wider conspiracy".
"Well yeah, there's a problem with all this 9/11 conspiracy stuff" said the owner of twicefuckedteendonkeys.com, "and thats that we have to simultaneously argue that President Bush is an evil genius ruling the galaxy and one of the dumbest human beings in existence. "Its a conundrum for sure, But Hey" he exclaimed with great confidence and enthusiasm, "The great part about conspiracy theories is that you always have an out. Conspiracy theories are safe.. so when the subject of President Bush being a total retard, we can just retreat to the "illuminati" and wider global conspiracies and you can just continue on acting like everyones an idiot for not knowing that".....Comment
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