Sick Fuckers... who takes their children to nude beaches ?

There could be more to it than meets the eye. I have a buddy in law enforcement, the government pays college kids and sets up "dummy" pedo sites for the purpose of building up a list of potential child predators. When someone goes through the trouble of signing up with a CC they're added to this list for life.

so, when a kid or something comes up missing and they happen to live within the immediate area, they will likely be put under surveillance and tracked initially.

So the guy who did Girls Gone Wild, who shows girls flashing on a beach on spring break gets busted because a few of the girls were not 18 or older but there is a site like this full of naked kids and that is "natural". So if you are under 18 it isn't ok to flash but it is ok to be fully nude.

And i don't want to hear the crap about the " life style". Yes it is a life style for the people who are there, once it is posted on the net, it is nudity, whether it is a naked person on a nude beach or a non nude beach, wtf is the difference once it is online. there is none.

cool nudist people trying to show other nudist people what its like to visit one of these places. its all wonderful blah blah. but you can't tell me these guys don't make THOUSANDS every month from fucking pedo's who hang around just for the content of the children.

i mean cool you're a fucking nudist and you bring your children whatever. but putting thousands of nudist pictures and videos of children on the net is just ASKING to be exploited by pedo's. if you can't see my point then you're just being ignorant.

Interesting question. Do those who are familiar with the law, know why the GGW guy got hammered while this isn't? My guess is that it would something have to do with context and intent? Granted, I'm not really familiar with the GGW case.

Just from what I remember, I think in some of the GGW videos there is video of girls making out and touching each other and themselves in obviously sexual ways, with the purpose of sexual stimulation. The kids in the nudist pics aren't even aware of the camera and they're just being kids, there is nothing inherently sexually provocative about nudism. That would be my guess as to the disctinction between GGW and this. And alchohol was sometimes involved, I think. I really don't know the details.

But I agree with dynastoned 100%

"Why would anyone want to teach their children their bodies are disgusting, unacceptable and offensive to even look at? Why would anyone want to teach their children self shame, self disgust and to despise their body or any one else's body? Why would anyone set a bad example to their children by having a prejudicial bigotry against another group of people?"

What about children and Naturism?

"What kind of parents would run around naked in front of their children!?"

We think the best parents in the world are those that have an open life with their children. Parents should be able to give their children the right to review the life issues by themselves. As parents, all that we can truly do is to give the hints and ideas that we would like to have our children carry on. In this case, it's not being afraid to be nude. It's also teaching them to stand up for what they believe in. Children are natural nudists. We're born nude and it's good. There's nothing wrong with that. It's only after people turn it into an evil thing that children grow up believing that it's dirty, nasty, awful and forbidden. Then, they usually end up in other trouble up to and including teen pregnancy, eating disorders, and many other issues surrounding body acceptance. Sure, it happens in the nudist community too, but at least we will know that we gave our children a total and honest view of the human body and all of it's workings.

Nudist parents are NOT out to corrupt the minds of their children. If anything, we're here to give them a chance to see life at its fullest without the outside pressure to conform to society. It's good to be a part of society, but when society begins to control your moves and decisions there is a problem. In the US, we're supposed to have the right to decide on what we believe. But we are forced into obeying many laws that were passed by people based on their religious reservations and beliefs. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see where the problem is.

Doesn't it frighten you to have naked people around your naked kids?

No. Just because people are nude doesn't make them any more of a threat than anyone else. Nudist parents take the same, if not more, vigilance when it comes to protecting their kids. As parents, our kids are our primary concern. We must take the appropriate precautions towards our children and their safety, clothed or not. Just because they're naked in front of us doesn't place them at any higher risk than if they wore clothes all the time.

But what about your kids seeing the opposite sex naked?

It's not a bad thing. The kids will grow up understanding what the natural human body is and how it fits into nature. They'll know that boys & girls are different and why. It won't be this hidden thing that they don't discuss. Since they will have a better understanding of each other's bodies, they'll be less tempted to engage in pre-marital or promiscuous behavior. They won't have the ideas the media portrays that simple nudity is a pre-cursor to sexual behavior. The human body is a beautiful thing that should be taught, not hidden as if it's dirty or bad.

What about society and what it says about your lifestyle and your children?

Society judges many people inappropriately. Being a nudist may be a situation that could be included. It is the parent's right to raise their children in the way that they see fit. As long as they don't abuse or misuse the kids, it's a non-issue. The problem with society and nudism isn't nudity itself, it's the portrayal of simple nudity meaning sex. As previously explained, it has nothing to do with sex. It is a choice to be nude because it's more comfortable. The children aren't forced into nudity, they do it on their own free will. Babies pull their diapers off and can't stand to have them put back on. Toddler's get nude and then ask if it's ok. Well, for us it is ok for them to be nude. There's no reason for them to hide what is beautiful. They are taught that there are times when it's appropriate to be nude as well as times when it's not. Our society is backwards in that people will look at nude art and make an exception. But if you allow your children to swim or play in the nude, they act like it's the worst thing you could do.

But, it's just not right for the kids to be nude!

Why isn't it? Is it because that is what you believe? Because you think that nudity is bad? Because of your religious beliefs? We suggest for everyone to study their belief system and decide for themselves. There are nudists from all walks of life and all religions.

Isn't it illegal to have your kids naked?

No. It's only illegal if you abuse or misuse your children for the purposes of promoting sex or sexual content. It's also illegal if you allow them to run in public where other people can see and be offended by them. Allowing them to run at a nudist campground is legal as it's private land and everyone is there for the same reason. Allowing them to run down your street nude is illegal because it's public and at least one of your neighbors is going to take offense to it. Allowing them to be nude in their own house is perfectly legal as long as you take precautions to make sure your neighbors don't get shocked.

Note: We're not providing legal advice....we're simply stating why we participate in nudism. Laws vary from state to state. Remember to check your local ordinances as well. Unfortunately most laws were enacted by people who thought they were doing a good thing based on their religion. The problem with this is that it imposes on other people's beliefs.

Final note regarding kids:

The effects of nudity and kids has been studied. There are many different theories and ideas about it. Most state that there are benefits to being open about nudity with your children. I'm sure we can all see some of the benefits. Most of the problems people have with it is the fear that something is wrong because their religion said so. A lot of these people quote scriptures taken out of context and proclaim it as the law. You can not tell someone that they're wrong because you feel they are. We've seen our children in the nudist environment and they love it. Sex isn't a topic on their minds and it probably won't be for many years to come. At least we know that they'll understand we're all different and we all have personal choices and decisions to make during our lives. As the years go by and we all get older, it seems like the US gets more uptight about things every year. We can only hope that things change for the better. At least we know it's our right to raise our children how we see fit....we can only hope that our foul legal and judicial system sees it the same way in the future.

"A child who has never been allowed to see his parents, brothers and sisters naked sees nudity as something shocking."
- Dr. Helga Fleishhauer Hardt (SHOW ME, New York: St. Martin's Press, 1975)

"Being natural and matter-of-fact about nudity prevents your children from developing an attitude of shame or disgust about the human body. If parents are very secretive about their bodies and go to great lengths to prevent their children from ever seeing a buttock or breast, children will wonder what is so unusual, and even alarming, about human nudity." - Dr. Lee Salk, Psychiatrist (McCall's Magazine, June, 1976)

" ... with very young children accustomed from the beginning to nudity in themselves and their parents, a great deal is taken for granted, and it doesn't seem to be much of an issue to them. What nudity does is make it easy for children to become absolutely certain about just how men and women are made. This knowledge is of great importance in assuring the child of his or her own correct gender. The differences in body states and sizes - and in body organs - can then be taken for granted and will provide an accurate image of how they themselves, or the opposite sex, will look when grown up. Children whose parents feel at ease in such natural events as stepping out of the shower, toweling, and walking back to their room to dress are fortunate." - Dr. Calderone, MD (The Family Book About Sexuality, New York: Harper & Row, 1981)

http://www.purenudism.net/vintage-mother-love.html

wrong, fuckface

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=122427

That's it. He didn't just take pics of half naked girls on beaches, he paid underage girls to get wild. Huge difference between that and this. And other illegal activity.

at least the girls in GGW were willing to get naked for the camera and knew it would be shown to the world.

here you have kids that have no idea the will be exploited by someone sneaking pictures of them and sharing it to the world (most of which are pedos) so the site owner can make a profit and try to disguise it as " natural".

lol don't you think it is funny that no one will acknowledge you or reply to your posts ? consider this post an attention gift, surely you would have died soon if no one would have replied to you. This wil be the first and last time i reply to you and i bet no one else will either.

look at me! look at me!

Show me one case of CP on that tour

You're allowed to take picture of people in public settings.

The GGW guy was involved in numerous illegal things - possession of illegal substances (which presumably could have been used to make the girls "willing" to participate), paying underage girls to not only get nude but perform sexual acts with each other, etc. So it's a different story altogether.

But yeah, this type of site is legal pedo Heaven.

= I make 10x more money by having naked kids on the site.

i dont know about that but chick are hot there

YOU JUST DID, MORON.




NOW GO CRY WHILE ADJUSTING YOUR TURTLENECK YOU FAGGOT

answer you icq, i m not going to post it here.

I saw the link you sent prior to putting you on ignore. That was most definitely NOT CP, and you are totally clueless if you think it is. That is why you won't post it, because you don't want people to see how little you know.

Learn the law before you go around making stupid comments.

Judging by the link you sent me, 9/10 National Geographics are loaded with CP.

You asked if it disturbed me . . . not nearly as much as the idea of seeing you jack off on a cam show would.

ok you post it.

then post the pic then since you say its not cp

I took my kids to the Island of Saona once, off the coast of Dominican Republic.. there was some 50 year old woman there who decided to go topless, which I really wasn't happy about.

I really didn't want my kids to see this as it might put them off woman for life

Anyway they totally ignored it, it was like she wasn't there... bear in mind my boys were 11 & 12 years old at the time. They were too busy playing in the sea with their snorkels.

lol will why do you argue with these idiots on here i tell you this time after time. That site is totally disgusting and i bet you a good % of there members are looking for cp shit. Some people have higher morale vaules then others.


Me personally i would not sit around with my child naked with a bunch of fucking people in the first place . Shit if i walk around my house naked with my child at home its illegal. So everyone trying to say those pics are legal then?

the site is a pedophiles dream site i like how they word things

WHAT WE DON'T PRODUCE AND HAVE NO INTEREST IN
ISSUES OF CONCERN

* EXPLOITATION OF CHILDREN
1. WE DON'T CATER TO, ENCOURAGE, OR SEEK OUT PEOPLE WITH AN "INTEREST" IN NUDE CHILDREN OUT OF THE CONTEXT OF NATURISM.
2. WE DISCOURAGE THE FOCUSING OF ATTENTION ON CHILDREN WHO ARE NOT ENGAGED IN THE FAMILY NATURIST LIFESTYLE
* CLOSE-UPS OF BODY PARTS
1. WE DO NOT HAVE CLOSE-UPS OF GENITAL AREAS OR PARTICIPANTS IN SUGGESTIVE POSES.
2. THOSE WANTING SEXUALLY ORIENTED MATERIALS WILL FIND OURS WANTING.
* PORTRAYING SEXUAL BEHAVIOR
1. MOVIES OF AUTHENTIC NATURISM ARE NOT OBSCENE,\LEWD,\SEXUALLY ORIENTED,\LASCIVIOUS, OR PORNOGRAPHIC.
2. THEY DOCUMENT A HEALTHY LIFESTYLE AND ARE EDUCATIONAL.
3. NUDISM IS A LIFESTYLE NOT A SEXUAL BEHAVIOR. HENCE OUR VIDEOS HAVE EDUCATIONAL AND DOCUMENTARY VALUE.
4. THESE ARE NOT "ADULT", SEXUALLY ORIENTED (R) OR (X) VIDEOS. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE 21 TO ORDER.




But when you go to the join page you get this:


1,125 Adult Videos divided into easy-to-browse video genre sections. Our hit categories include Anal, Celebrities, Close Up, Couples, Erotic Collection Group, Humor, Intercourse, Lesbian, Masturbation, Misc, Oral Sex, Solo Scene and Spy. Videos come with a number of progressive stills to help you in your selection.



As for the nudist issue about pics i really dont know if its legal or not. But at the same time they giving you real porn with your membership as well. So come monday i will contact my buddys at the DOJ,asacp and i will be calling mastercard and speaking with them since thats who the process thru.

this is a fucked up site.

You MUST be joking?

I agree with you. that foockin bullshite..definitely disturbing.. even cavemen wear undies.

I'm not sure if those parents would like their nude kids being flashed on the net with other buttons pointing to nude stuff and the like...would you?

I'm saying nothing is wrong with the site...

I've noticed that a lot of people in the online sex biz feel the need to find OUTRAGE in any little bullshit topic in an attempt to make them feel more wholesome about their own selves.

Will I have a question for you


would you call any of this stuff CP?

Images posted by a fucking IDIOT removed

and before any of you start talkin shit about my hotlinkin

know that this is completely acceptable in the context of this conversation

Good ole Will....

This is a great thread

Very true.

Not a smart idea pussyserver

Pussyserver, yes thats Cp. Happy banning to you.

Dumbass jig.

I dont understand why not?

if wikipedia and cnn and foxnews can allow posting of images by jock sturges on their sites then why not here??

just because we all work in adult , does that mean we are not allowed to have conversation on topic?? or that certain conversations are off limits to us??

why does everyone act as if we are guilty of something in adult?? it would seem as iff we are all convicted felons so any conversations about guns would be off limits

im not guilty of anything

dont feel any guilt

and think that mature conversation among adults on this board and others should be held to the same standards that other global forums are held to

I have done nothing wrong


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jock_Sturges

here is a link to amazon.com where you can buy those images and then some

http://www.amazon.com/Jock-Sturges/dp/3908247357


so why can amazon.com sell the images and host a forum dedicated to the images but mention of the same is pure eveil on GFY??

I will tell you why

mainly because some of you are trying to hide your inner demons

when I look at the photos above I seen nothing but art

so why do you see something diffrent??

hmmm....

People on this board are paranoid of children. I could post a pic of a child in a snow suit, scarf, goggles and tent around him and people would still tell me that it's a bad idea and that i'll get banned for it.

Children, our greatest gift, has become our greatest taboo.

You call looking at nude pics of kids fuckin art? I call it sick and disgusting have a big fucking problem with it. What do you mean buy the inner demons comment?

by no means do I mean to disrespect anyone, but in all honesty lets compare this topic to what history teaches us about people

people who are very religious are most likely = pervereted freaks

people who are strongly anti gay = most likely gay

people who are strongly anti porn = most likely realy adicted to porn

people who are most critical of others = most like have serious self image issues


so with just those few we can conclude that

people who are strongly anti nudist or get evil intentions from anything = ????


sometimes I think this place is full of mark foley's

I mean when I see an unlocked house I only see an unlocked house where you might see an oppurtunity to steal

we do not think on the same wavelength

when I see an open purse with 500 bucks sticking out... I only see a purse with money sticking out

maybe you see a chance


understand??

Thats the dumbest fucking list of assumptions I've EVER read. You're a god damned idiot.

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you right we ain't on the same wavelength. I need to upgrade to what you are smoking.....

His assumptions are a bit off but generally something disturbs someone when it gives them a feeling they don't accept or agree with, yet they get a feeling to it and instead of accepting the feeling because they were taught (thought vs. feeling) it was wrong or peer observation said it was wrong, that they must take a stance against it.

To further that, the person would assume they shouldn't get a feeling from something or mistake what the feeling is such as worry or concern for example for a child's safety having seen on the news and other that children are vulnerable and there are people who will see them in a sexual manner, and seeing that the child is naked somehow increases the threat.. which is good / proper logic, it just then comes down to also looking at the environment that the child would be in. Otherwise I think people might mistakenly try to 'block a feeling' because they assume they shouldn't have any feelings (just to reaffirm I'm not talking about sexual, but of concern or other) and when you try to block 'something' you just reenforce 'something' in your mind so it will bother you all that much more... yay!

did you report it yet? If so, what happened?

Went to a Czech Republic beach with my girlfriend at the time several years ago and was quite shocked. Everyone was like this is natural whats the prob.

W T F ? ? ? ? ? ?

along the same lines of your logic ....

people who get very defensive and think there is nothing wrong with seeing nude kids, post them to adult messageboards = pedophiles.

Now i don't particulary believe that comment but it does fit in pretty well with your nonsense.

I usually take the opposite view of Will in any argument just on general principle lol, but this time he's spot on. That site is just a front for CP, plain and simple.

I reckon your take on it depends on what you have been hounded with by the media. It's quite normal here on the Med coast to see families on nudist beaches, but the thing is there are lots of nudist beaches here, so people don't get all sexed up when they exposed to nudism. Sure, hell we have CP in this country, and the authorities are not blind to it - the beaches are patrolled, but the authorities just let people *get on* with what they want to do.

Hell, I remember when I was in the states that people would freak out if there was a topless woman on a beach lol there are more topless women on our beaches than covered ones.

It's all about society.

I thought the question was whether it was right to take kids to nudist beaches and unclothe them. Not whether the site is CP or not.