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  • pornonada
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2005
    • 440
    #151
    Originally posted by Lord Aga
    I dont own Etology nor Netpond ads, its a white label of the etology product.
    you are not affilated somehow with them?

    Originally posted by Lord Aga
    That said they are busy programming the ability to take various sites out of our white label. Its just not ready yet.
    No idea why you just remove it and what kind of programming is needed for that, but maybe i miss something of couorse.

    Originally posted by Lord Aga
    If its not done soon I`ll bust out of our contract with them.
    What stops you to doing this the last 4 weeks?

    Originally posted by Lord Aga
    As its so important to you, give me your email address and I`ll forward you my correspondance with them.
    For me only the final result is of some importance so i pesonally would prefer to see the filesharing and/or torrent site adds gone from your program than reading emails containing mostly "if, when, but, than, ...". But feel free to post the important parts here.
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      • pornonada
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2005
        • 440
        #152
        monday bump
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          • Lord Aga
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2002
            • 479
            #153
            What are you bumping for you prick.. Did you not check out the site?

            Rapidshare is gone and I`m working on any other file sharing sites that abuse our industry.

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              • pornonada
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2005
                • 440
                #154
                Originally posted by Lord Aga
                What are you bumping for you prick.. Did you not check out the site?

                Rapidshare is gone and I`m working on any other file sharing sites that abuse our industry.
                i checked out the rapidshare site and still saw and still see the adds borkered there. But yes, you are right, it's gone from your selling adds section which is very nice and good to see. Congrats you made it finally.

                I'am happy to see you have done what you promised to do!
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                  • Brujah
                    Beer Money Baron
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 22157
                    #155
                    Originally posted by pornonada
                    i checked out the rapidshare site and still saw and still see the adds borkered there. But yes, you are right, it's gone from your selling adds section which is very nice and good to see. Congrats you made it finally.

                    I'am happy to see you have done what you promised to do!
                    Will you tell us why you hate Aga or Netpond so much now? It has to be something, if you look at your posts on GFY for the past month.. you've almost never posted anywhere except to bump this thread and keep hammering away at it.

                    Will you now be doing the same thing for AdultFriendFinder? They're all over the site.

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                      • pornonada
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 440
                        #156
                        Originally posted by Brujah
                        Will you tell us why you hate Aga or Netpond so much now? It has to be something, if you look at your posts on GFY for the past month.. you've almost never posted anywhere except to bump this thread and keep hammering away at it.

                        Will you now be doing the same thing for AdultFriendFinder? They're all over the site.
                        Hey, you surprise me again, lol. Please go one page back and look please for the post where i already mentioned that i have nothing against netpond, netpondads, aga or whatever they or him is affilated. I NEVER talked with him, NEVER had ANY relationship of ANY kind with him, NEVER was a member of netpond and ones again (and hopefully the last time) it is/was nothing personally. So please stop thinking i "hate" him as there is honestly NO reason for any bad feelings.

                        And yes, i don't post much here and even seldomly read here as i principally (with some expections) think it's a waste of time to lunger here around for longer as about only 5% ( just a guess ) of the members here read and post seriuously. So much principally why i don't post much here.

                        And yes, i will do the same with Adultfriendfinder for supporting Zango, no doubt on this. I just begun yesterday with it and one of their support guys

                        from my ICQ History:
                        Aff Support Guy asked me if i needed something,

                        Me:
                        hi ******, (edit this one as i think the support guy has no vault)

                        uhmm, not that i have any questions, but following all that discussions about AFF and zango i consider to stop advertising AFF as i honestly don't want to support malware/addware/spyware installers and users and also i don't want to support a program (zango) that takes away my commissions to other people.

                        AFF Support Guy:
                        hi alexander. no problem. do whatever you like to do. but let me just tell you this: the article in xbiz about zango is completely based on "if, when, maybe" imaginations. we would never ever steal traffic from our affiliates, because this would be suicide. we will only use zango to compete with illegal ads using keywords such as "adultfriendfinder, alt.com, passion.com and cams.com". we had to start this because others used these protected keywords on google. what happens now is the following: if a web visitor clicks on such an illegal ad he get a parallel add beside this one, showing us. he can then deside by his own where to click on.

                        Me:
                        i'am not relying on the articel on xbiz, i rely on common common sense and common logic.
                        I'am not accusing AFF to steal traffic from it's affilates but accusing AFF supporting zango, which is whithout any doubt stealing from the webmater sites and installing his spyware which hurts the whole honest working industry which i count myself in.

                        AFF Support Guy:
                        you might be right. i cannot evaluate this. i can just forward all complaints to my bosses. so they see what my affiliate think. that keeps them in touch with you guys

                        Me:
                        i know you can't and didn't await it of course. Just wanted to make a statement that as a honest webmaster i can not applaud AFF for it's support for zango and as we discuss this with other webmaster friends i'am affilated we think about ways how to fight zango and it's of course a solution to boycott zango's supporters as well, even if this causes us temporary looses it will ensure us at least longterm income.

                        End of Conversation
                        So i hope you see that i personally will not support zango or it's supporters/users. Same is for videoscash galleries affilates which immediatly get blacklisted and posted on cheaterforums when i come across a site using them. I already begun when updating the html of any of my sites to remove the AFF geo banners i use. As i have a lot of sites this will take some time too, but i will promise as well that i will NOT continue promoting them and continously remove the banners/linkings on ALL my sites without expection!!!

                        And yes, time to follow a thread/discussion about zango and/or AFF, agreed

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                          • pornonada
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 440
                            #157
                            Originally posted by Lord Aga
                            What are you bumping for you prick.. Did you not check out the site?

                            Rapidshare is gone and I`m working on any other file sharing sites that abuse our industry.
                            just out of curiousity, did you remove rapidshare.de only for 1 day? I see it again there. Not that it's vital or very important to me, just curious to see what the reasons are you continue to work with file sharing sites after you stated and claimed that much that you do NOT support such sites?!?!
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                              • pornonada
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 440
                                #158
                                Originally posted by pornonada
                                just out of curiousity, did you remove rapidshare.de only for 1 day? I see it again there. Not that it's vital or very important to me, just curious to see what the reasons are you continue to work with file sharing sites after you stated and claimed that much that you do NOT support such sites?!?!
                                bump
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                                  • jayeff
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2001
                                    • 2944
                                    #159
                                    Cliff notes:

                                    http://www.netpondads.com/buying-spa...fece22340d831d

                                    Lord Aga - Oct 17th: "Show me one example and the whole program is history."

                                    Lord Aga - Oct 17th: "We will not allow ads to be shown on any site that promotes illegal material."

                                    Lord Aga - Oct 22nd: "The listings will be removed shortly OR I`ll pull the NetpondAds program completely."

                                    Lord Aga - Nov 11th: "I dont own Etology nor Netpond ads, its a white label of the etology product. That said they are busy programming the ability to take various sites out of our white label. Its just not ready yet. If its not done soon I`ll bust out of our contract with them."

                                    Lord Aga - Nov 13th: "Rapidshare is gone and I`m working on any other file sharing sites that abuse our industry."

                                    It is now February 22nd...

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                                      • Cyrano
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2006
                                        • 930
                                        #160
                                        I love the AFF, Fleshlight, and SexSearch ads in PureTNA's member area.

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                                          • Brujah
                                            Beer Money Baron
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 22157
                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by pornonada
                                            just out of curiousity, did you remove rapidshare.de only for 1 day? I see it again there. Not that it's vital or very important to me, just curious to see what the reasons are you continue to work with file sharing sites after you stated and claimed that much that you do NOT support such sites?!?!
                                            Can you link to it? I didn't see it.

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                                              • pornonada
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2005
                                                • 440
                                                #162
                                                Originally posted by Brujah
                                                Can you link to it? I didn't see it.
                                                just check out etology.com
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                                                  • pornonada
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                    • 440
                                                    #163
                                                    Originally posted by Brujah
                                                    Can you link to it? I didn't see it.
                                                    oh and in case you are replying that this is something different, just have in mind it's the same adress, same office, same company, same everything, just a different domain.
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                                                      • Aussie Rebel
                                                        Blow Me U Geeks
                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                        • 5108
                                                        #164
                                                        Wow now they have an ad for DDLSPOT which is number #3 here http://www.netpondads.com/buying-spa...fece22340d831d

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                                                          • pornonada
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Oct 2005
                                                            • 440
                                                            #165
                                                            Originally posted by Aussie Rebel
                                                            Wow now they have an ad for DDLSPOT which is number #3 here http://www.netpondads.com/buying-spa...fece22340d831d
                                                            I don't know if it's just me who doesn't understand some things or if i just don't get them right.

                                                            So i see Lord Ago beginning this thread against AFF because they advertise on file sharing programs, i also read a thread on the netpond forum against badoink again for file sharing. Which is really good because i think all that file sharing/torrent and pirate sites hurt us a lot.

                                                            But how does it come that netpondads and etology to whom he is affilated somehow is full with file sharing program adds to broker???

                                                            If someone is against filesharing and similar illegal and pirated shit than he shouldn't have it in his own house in first place or someone could argue that it has something to do with competition (what i don't hope).


                                                            Just some interesting facts as well which i just saw on the xbiz news mail.


                                                            NEWS STORY

                                                            Titan Reports $30M Loss From P2P Sharing
                                                            By Anne Winter
                                                            Thursday, February 22, 2007

                                                            SAN FRANCISCO ? Keith Webb, vice president of sales and marketing at Titan Media, said he sent out 318,000 cease-and-desist orders in 2006 and reported a revenue loss of up to $30 million from illegal or stolen content.
                                                            Webb told XBIZ he uses the same outside company that major motion picture studios hire to monitor peer-to-peer networks, and that the spidering service found more than 3 million Titan Media films were illegally downloaded last year.

                                                            Titan?s online video-on-demand and pay-per-view content costs between $2.99 and $9.99; Webb multiplied these numbers by 3 million and called the loss in revenue ?devastating.?

                                                            ?At the very least we lost $8 million or $9 million. At worst we lost close to $30 million.? Webb said.

                                                            Webb said this number doesn?t include revenue loss from offline trading or pirated DVDs.

                                                            Of the 318,000 cease-and-desist orders sent out, Webb said there was an 80 percent compliance rate, though only 10 percent of those sharing Titan Media content were eventually caught.

                                                            Webb attributes declining DVD sales in the adult industry to file sharing and pirated DVDs. He reported that for every legal VOD/PPV Titan Media film sold, he had 10 or more stolen or downloaded illegally.

                                                            ?DVD sales are down and the number of sales from VOD are not making up for the loss,? Webb said. ?Something?s going on.?

                                                            Webb said his findings might prompt him to move all Titan Media content online using DRM sooner than he had planned. As long as he provides his films at a reasonable price and a mass scale, he said it?s the safest way to prevent future revenue loss.

                                                            Webb continues to urge other adult studios to ?band together and realize what?s going on.? He said if larger VOD providers like AEBN or Maleflixxx set aside two percent of revenue to pay for in-house legal council, more P2P sharers and pirates could be caught.

                                                            ?We need to work harder to try to stop this,? Webb said.

                                                            And than just read some statements from the Etology guy i had a small discussion on another board (in context for supporting and having a partnership with rapidshare.de):

                                                            They complied with all legal requests in good faith and in a timely manner
                                                            ==> anybody believing this?

                                                            We cannot be responsible for what the hosts users upload to their sites
                                                            ==> in other words, they don't care.

                                                            NetpondAds & Etology share the same system, but we have different purposes
                                                            ==> can't see much difference but ok..

                                                            The particular thread you're referencing is what caused us to modify NetpondAds to have the ability to remove specific websites from their listing. Etology is a general marketplace where users sign up on their own or where we approach them.
                                                            ==> i referred him to this thread. So Netpondads can remove sites but etology can't now? Or does it mean that they don't care at etology what adds they broker as it's just a general market place?

                                                            I was not aware of the heated nature on the subject.
                                                            ==> So they spam daily tgp and adult site owners but aren't aware that filesharing decreases sales more and more?

                                                            NetpondAds caters to webmasters in that particular industry. NetpondAds is a whitelabel brand where requirements are specified by Netpond and we host an advertising network for them. So while we control the domain, Lorg Aga can dictate what he accepts and what he doesn't. He knows the industry better than we do.

                                                            Etology is an open marketplace in which anyone with a legal website can come and register. We don't place restrictions on websites we only require that they are legal and complete with full navigation and do not violate any known laws.

                                                            We support far more TGP, Photo, Video, Entertainment, and Informational sites than we do filesharing sites those are actually very limited in number. Etology supports webmasters in general and we try to help webmasters who have traffic monetize it. This model usually works out for both parties. The problem is that filesharing sites are more visible due to the amount of traffic they receive.

                                                            We're actually not very different than any open source ad package, we're open for anyone to try us out. Granted some may not agree with certain people who use our service but in short we are an open service available to all. Our service was not tailored to be industry specific, that was one of the reasons NetpondAds was launched.
                                                            ==> At least more or less a honest statement ..


                                                            There are legitimate uses of torrents and fileshares out there otherwise the technology would've been blacklisted like Napster.

                                                            The DMCA act is not unregulated and is fairly powerful in the U.S. Many people get shutdown for copyright infringement all the time due to this act. This is also the regulation we abide by, it gives webmasters a good faith rule to remove content first before they are shutdown. As mentioned in the very early posts, if we receive complaints about certain sites due to content we forward the message to the webmaster. If we continually receive complaints we remove them.
                                                            ==> That part should be interesting for Program Owners, Content Providers or people which content get's illegaly up/downloaded 1000's of times daily. I guess they have a different POV on this.

                                                            We check sites but its not our responsibility to police content that's what lawyers are for. It's the copyright owners responsibility to file a report or report the file. This was and is exactly the case what happened with rapidshare.de & the E.U. and with a well known video sharing website in the U.S right now.
                                                            ==> Doesn't that simply mean they are well aware with what's going on with rapidshare.de but just continue selling their ads as usually??
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                                                              • pornonada
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Oct 2005
                                                                • 440
                                                                #166
                                                                bump against support for file sharing sites.
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                                                                  • jayeff
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                    • 2944
                                                                    #167
                                                                    "The law is an ass" is a cliché which is very apt in this context. Since none of Titan Media's product (for example) is in the public domain, it should not be necessary for Titan to have to remind anyone of that in specific terms.

                                                                    However, I do not believe that the issue here is that current law gives file-sharing sites a loophole. That is an entirely separate topic. Here the issue is whether it is acceptable for businesses operating in an industry which loses millions of dollars a year to such sites, to help them stay in business. That is a question of professionalism and business ethics, not the law.

                                                                    Since both those terms cause most peoples' eyes to glaze over, let's put it more simply: who in their right minds works with anyone who is busy undermining their efforts? Which is exactly what supporting sites which give away the content we are trying to sell, amounts to.

                                                                    There isn't a damn thing we can do, except resort to the law, if someone outside our industry exploits weakness in the law. But surely it is madness to support in any way whatsover, any business within our industry which goes that route...
                                                                    Last edited by jayeff; 02-23-2007, 02:48 AM.

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                                                                      • Brujah
                                                                        Beer Money Baron
                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                        • 22157
                                                                        #168
                                                                        Originally posted by pornonada
                                                                        bump against support for file sharing sites.
                                                                        While I respect your stance against rapidshare, zango, and the adult sponsors who work with them, I think you have an agenda against Netpond.

                                                                        You can't really be this aggressive against the practice, while you proudly push AFF on your sites.

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                                                                          • TeenCat
                                                                            Too lazy to set a koala
                                                                            • Jan 2007
                                                                            • 16131
                                                                            #169
                                                                            pirates were, are and will be. generated password 8+chars, 3ips max per day (if someone want more, give him more by request), on every pic/vid very little watermark with member name or id. then you can make steps, now you all can only cry... and see in search engines results as this one "hxxp://search.yahoo.com/search?p=as*traf*ic+torrent&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8" first association i found in my brain... traffic is the only way to sell, security is the only way to protect :food-smil

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                                                                              • pornonada
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Oct 2005
                                                                                • 440
                                                                                #170
                                                                                Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                While I respect your stance against rapidshare, zango, and the adult sponsors who work with them, I think you have an agenda against Netpond.

                                                                                You can't really be this aggressive against the practice, while you proudly push AFF on your sites.
                                                                                i have said it before and will say it again. I neither have anything against netpond nor against lord ago. And even if it doesn't sound like that, but i have principally sympaties for lord aga as i see from his posts that he is trying something against the file sharing issues, but he should be also an example than and distance hiself from doing business with file sharing sites.
                                                                                There is no reason why to turn this issue back and accuse that i have anything against him or netpond, it's simply not true.

                                                                                about my AFF advertisement, i have reduced them 3/4 so far, while i had only AFF advertisment on my site i added now 3 other dating and cam sponsor programs to each which clearly reduces the traffic i send to them. And if you have read my previous post than you would have seen a posted icq conversation with an aff rep where i clearly state my position as wel.
                                                                                However, i don't think you can compare one issue with the other, due my stats only about 0.05% - 0.1% of my traffic has zango installed anyway, now compare that to the traffic stats of rapidshare.de ( if i remember right it's traffic rank is #6 or so due Alexa).

                                                                                And there is another difference, i'am not going to get webmasters to join the AFF affilate program but etology for example sends out daily 100's of (Spam) emails to tgp owners trying to get them on board.

                                                                                So just don't stop thinking or accussing me of something personal with lord aga but tell me your opinion if it's good that these fileshare sites get their revenue through etology/netpondads and that that whole adult industry is hurt with that or not. That it's a much more interesting question and someone can only wonder why program owners and content providers are that passive at all but someone like me has to question it.
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                                                                                  • pornonada
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                                                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                                                    • 440
                                                                                    #171
                                                                                    good night bumper
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                                                                                      • chupacabra
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                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                        • 3626
                                                                                        #172
                                                                                        well, i missed this thread when it first started last year but just read through the entire thing and can add that anyone who is associated w/ rapidshare.de should be blacklisted wholesale in the adult industry... i can easily say that more content has been traded and dispersed from my paysites through the use of the rapidshare services than any other venue, worse than torrents according to my research and searching for my stolen content online over the years.

                                                                                        rapidshare is a fucking tool for theft, and easier to quantify than the masses of torrent users... while they are all distributed in their practices, rapidshare is the de facto standard for content sharing on forums and blogs, and should be made to suffer for their business model...

                                                                                        think of it this way; when torrent users steal your stuff they just steal it. when they download it from rapidshare links, they are actually *paying* someone else for my content... which one is dirtier seems pretty evident to me..
                                                                                        ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                                                                                          • Bigfuck
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                                            • 4961
                                                                                            #173
                                                                                            Puretna now uses
                                                                                            Fleshlight, Platinium Bucks, Sexsearch, Sexbankroll, Adultfriendfinder, Webcamcash, and Python what I can see on the site

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                                                                                              • smuttybox
                                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                                • Feb 2007
                                                                                                • 47
                                                                                                #174
                                                                                                come visit smuttybox.com or u'll get aids.

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                                                                                                  • jayeff
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                                    • 2944
                                                                                                    #175
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Bigfuck
                                                                                                    Puretna now uses
                                                                                                    Fleshlight, Platinium Bucks, Sexsearch, Sexbankroll, Adultfriendfinder, Webcamcash, and Python what I can see on the site
                                                                                                    Which reminds me. Anyone who hasn't seen the movie "The Usual Suspects", should.

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                                                                                                      • Bigfuck
                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                                        • 4961
                                                                                                        #176
                                                                                                        Originally posted by jayeff
                                                                                                        Which reminds me. Anyone who hasn't seen the movie "The Usual Suspects", should.
                                                                                                        Dont think those sponsors know that they are used on a torrent site

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                                                                                                          • pornonada
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Oct 2005
                                                                                                            • 440
                                                                                                            #177
                                                                                                            Originally posted by chupacabra
                                                                                                            well, i missed this thread when it first started last year but just read through the entire thing and can add that anyone who is associated w/ rapidshare.de should be blacklisted wholesale in the adult industry... i can easily say that more content has been traded and dispersed from my paysites through the use of the rapidshare services than any other venue, worse than torrents according to my research and searching for my stolen content online over the years.

                                                                                                            rapidshare is a fucking tool for theft, and easier to quantify than the masses of torrent users... while they are all distributed in their practices, rapidshare is the de facto standard for content sharing on forums and blogs, and should be made to suffer for their business model...

                                                                                                            think of it this way; when torrent users steal your stuff they just steal it. when they download it from rapidshare links, they are actually *paying* someone else for my content... which one is dirtier seems pretty evident to me..
                                                                                                            very well said.

                                                                                                            As this all is just obvious that torrent sites are hurting our all business i still wonder why there is NOT more reaction against them.
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                                                                                                              • DamageX
                                                                                                                Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                • 14293
                                                                                                                #178
                                                                                                                Originally posted by Bigfuck
                                                                                                                Dont think those sponsors know that they are used on a torrent site
                                                                                                                You sure? All those have a history of dirty practices.
                                                                                                                Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                                                If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                                                  • pornonada
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                                                                                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                    • 440
                                                                                                                    #179
                                                                                                                    wednesday bump
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                                                                                                                      • Cncr
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                                                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                        • 261
                                                                                                                        #180
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by pornonada
                                                                                                                        very well said.

                                                                                                                        As this all is just obvious that torrent sites are hurting our all business i still wonder why there is NOT more reaction against them.
                                                                                                                        Well what can you do? Torrent sites are not hosting any copyrighted material. You must get the users. Not an easy job.
                                                                                                                        signatures sucks ass

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                                                                                                                          • DamageX
                                                                                                                            Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                            • 14293
                                                                                                                            #181
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Cncr
                                                                                                                            Well what can you do? Torrent sites are not hosting any copyrighted material. You must get the users. Not an easy job.
                                                                                                                            While torrent sites are in the legal "grey zone", that doesn't mean that members of this industry should help them fuck over the rest of the industry operators by advertising on those sites.
                                                                                                                            Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                                                            If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                                                              • pornpf69
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                                                                                                                                • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                • 15782
                                                                                                                                #182
                                                                                                                                thanks for sharing!!

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                                                                                                                                  • pornonada
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                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                    • 440
                                                                                                                                    #183
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Cncr
                                                                                                                                    Well what can you do? Torrent sites are not hosting any copyrighted material. You must get the users. Not an easy job.
                                                                                                                                    just don't support them in any way or any other company like "etology/netpondads" that feed and support them and broker their spots/advertising.
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                                                                                                                                      • chupacabra
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                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                        • 3626
                                                                                                                                        #184
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                                                                        While torrent sites are in the legal "grey zone", that doesn't mean that members of this industry should help them fuck over the rest of the industry operators by advertising on those sites.
                                                                                                                                        couldn't agree w/ you more, any utilizing advertising on those sorts of sites are pretty obviously out to squeeze anything they can out of the playing field w/ no care for damage to others who operate in our arena... also known as *turd-fondlers*.




                                                                                                                                        back to rapidshare though... anyone hear have experience w/ them when trying to get content removed from their servers? i haven't even bothered in a good while but in the past i have sent their abuse address emails demanding removal of my content from their users diskspace have always gone ignored and unreplied, even when i sent links from the forums, screenshots, etc. etc.. usually these files are password-protected w/ the pertinent passwords posted in the public trading fora... any past experience dealing w/ the beast directly would be interesting i'd think..!
                                                                                                                                        ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                                                                                                                                          • pornonada
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                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                            • 440
                                                                                                                                            #185
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by chupacabra
                                                                                                                                            couldn't agree w/ you more, any utilizing advertising on those sorts of sites are pretty obviously out to squeeze anything they can out of the playing field w/ no care for damage to others who operate in our arena... also known as *turd-fondlers*.




                                                                                                                                            back to rapidshare though... anyone hear have experience w/ them when trying to get content removed from their servers? i haven't even bothered in a good while but in the past i have sent their abuse address emails demanding removal of my content from their users diskspace have always gone ignored and unreplied, even when i sent links from the forums, screenshots, etc. etc.. usually these files are password-protected w/ the pertinent passwords posted in the public trading fora... any past experience dealing w/ the beast directly would be interesting i'd think..!
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