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  • aico
    Moo Moo Cow
    • Mar 2004
    • 14748

    #1

    Fake fur ain't so fake, it's...

    Dog.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070223/ap_on_re_us/dog_fur

  • Scott McD
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    • Nov 2002
    • 67792

    #2
    "This is an animal that is routinely killed by stomping them, or beating them, or skinning them alive," Markarian said. Video produced by Swiss Animal Protection and posted on the Internet shows raccoon dogs clubbed or slammed on the ground and some writhing, gasping and blinking as they are skinned alive.


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    • u-Bob
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      • Jul 2005
      • 33063

      #3

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      • E$_manager
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        • Apr 2006
        • 13557

        #4
        I always thought so. I also think thay use cats.
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        • TheDoc
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          • Jul 2001
          • 13827

          #5
          I think if you like fur, you will care little that it came from a dog or a cat.. I don't own anything fur, but personally I wouldn't care what animal it came from.

          An animal is an animal..
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          • CyberHustler
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            • Feb 2006
            • 28795

            #6
            Originally posted by TheDoc
            I think if you like fur, you will care little that it came from a dog or a cat.. I don't own anything fur, but personally I wouldn't care what animal it came from.

            An animal is an animal..
            A human is an animal too, so can I skin your daughter for my next leather jacket?
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            • TheDoc
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              • Jul 2001
              • 13827

              #7
              Originally posted by Cyber-Hu$tler
              A human is an animal too, so can I skin your daughter for my next leather jacket?
              I don't have daughter... And if I did she wouldn't have fur. And a human isn't anywhere in the same league as a dog, cat, rabbit or wolf. Unless you have seen some dog build his own, buy his food, take care and love for others..
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              • StuartD
                Sofa King Band
                • Jul 2002
                • 29903

                #8
                It's funny that it is so much worse that it comes from "man's best friend" than if it was just some wild animal.

                The SPCA puts cats and dogs to sleep on a daily basis to control over population and the spreading of illnesses and yatta yatta yatta.... but take the fur off of one, and suddenly we've got a news story.
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                • TheDoc
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                  • Jul 2001
                  • 13827

                  #9
                  Originally posted by StuartD
                  It's funny that it is so much worse that it comes from "man's best friend" than if it was just some wild animal.

                  The SPCA puts cats and dogs to sleep on a daily basis to control over population and the spreading of illnesses and yatta yatta yatta.... but take the fur off of one, and suddenly we've got a news story.
                  Exactly!!! And lord, if someone ate a dog or cat, in public.. Holy Shit....
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                  • Nysus
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 7817

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheDoc
                    I don't have daughter... And if I did she wouldn't have fur. And a human isn't anywhere in the same league as a dog, cat, rabbit or wolf. Unless you have seen some dog build his own, buy his food, take care and love for others..
                    Not near the same league in intelligence, but everywhere else pretty similar; actually only certain intelligences.
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                    • TheDoc
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                      • Jul 2001
                      • 13827

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nysus
                      Not near the same league in intelligence, but everywhere else pretty similar; actually only certain intelligences.
                      No, you can't train an animal to act or respond anywhere even close to human like. They simply don't have the intelligence to do so. They may be able to hunt as a pack, or speak without speaking, but those are genetic survival skills and not intelligence.
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                      • Nysus
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                        • Aug 2001
                        • 7817

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TheDoc
                        No, you can't train an animal to act or respond anywhere even close to human like. They simply don't have the intelligence to do so. They may be able to hunt as a pack, or speak without speaking, but those are genetic survival skills and not intelligence.
                        Not intelligence? There are 5-8 different intelligences that are fairly well-accepted. You're telling me animals have none of those?

                        Each added intelligence is of course a huge multiplier to abilities but doesn't make something unintelligent.
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                        • StuartD
                          Sofa King Band
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 29903

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nysus
                          Not near the same league in intelligence, but everywhere else pretty similar; actually only certain intelligences.
                          Which brings up pigs... they're pretty intelligent. Yet we carve them up to get every piece of possible digestible meat we can get out of them.

                          Good thing they don't have fur or else people would get really upset.
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                          • Nysus
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                            • Aug 2001
                            • 7817

                            #14
                            Originally posted by StuartD
                            Which brings up pigs... they're pretty intelligent. Yet we carve them up to get every piece of possible digestible meat we can get out of them.

                            Good thing they don't have fur or else people would get really upset.
                            Which brings up the point of that they aren't carved up alive, they are killed instantly before being carved up; the problem with fur is the way they skin the animals.

                            Just imagine someone taking a knife and sliding it under your scalp and sawing back and forth to seperate your skin from your head... mmmm... The Last Samurai has a great scene depicting that.
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                            • CyberHustler
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                              • Feb 2006
                              • 28795

                              #15
                              lol humans are such intelligent animals that we are damn near close to destroying our own planet...
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                              • StuartD
                                Sofa King Band
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 29903

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Cyber-Hu$tler
                                lol humans are such intelligent animals that we are damn near close to destroying our own planet...
                                We are? How do you figure that?
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                                • StuartD
                                  Sofa King Band
                                  • Jul 2002
                                  • 29903

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Nysus
                                  Which brings up the point of that they aren't carved up alive, they are killed instantly before being carved up; the problem with fur is the way they skin the animals.

                                  Just imagine someone taking a knife and sliding it under your scalp and sawing back and forth to seperate your skin from your head... mmmm... The Last Samurai has a great scene depicting that.
                                  Yes, the methods are all out of wack, I'm not arguing that. But if the methods were humane enough, such as that of carving up a pig.... then what difference would it matter which animal it came from?
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                                  • TheDoc
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 13827

                                    #18
                                    I'm am 100% Texan and all Marine. My family is all past military, still very deep into vets, and hunting is like breathing air for us Texas boys. I grew up in North Texas, in the woods..

                                    Have fur to me is nothing - I was sell it off. I have had to put my own dog down, my neighbors cat, and in the Marines a few fellow humans.

                                    If you kill an animal, you eat it, and use everything you can. Including the fur.
                                    You can damn well best the Chinamen are eating the dog, fully..

                                    And to clear this up.. I didn't say anything about intelligence, and I don't care how intelligent the animal is.. Its the one sitting on the cutting block so this part of the convo is over.
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                                    • CyberHustler
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                                      • Feb 2006
                                      • 28795

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by StuartD
                                      We are? How do you figure that?












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                                      • TheDoc
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 13827

                                        #20
                                        Cyber-Hu$tler I assume you really aren't serious.. Something like 25 years ago we had kids hiding under desks in school to protect from a nuclear blast. The world wasn't ending then and it isn't ending now. The world has been in WAY worse situations than it is right now.
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                                        • StuartD
                                          Sofa King Band
                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 29903

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Cyber-Hu$tler












                                          I see, so when you say "destroying the world", what you really mean is "killing ourselves" since anything we could possibly do to the world wouldn't harm it in the slightest.

                                          Perhaps we can make it uninhabitable for ourselves, but we certainly don't have the power (yet) to go destroying any planets.
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                                          • ridikuloz
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                                            • Jun 2005
                                            • 2080

                                            #22
                                            we've been fur zango'd/
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                                            • BitAudioVideo
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                                              • Jul 2005
                                              • 1246

                                              #23
                                              some dogs are smarter than some GFYers...
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                                              • TheDoc
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 13827

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by BitAudioVideo
                                                some dogs are smarter than some GFYers...
                                                okay okay.. You guys win... maybe we should skin some gfyers.
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