Mr. Sulu Responds To Homophobic Basketball Player

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  • stickyfingerz
    Doin fine
    • Oct 2005
    • 24984

    #51
    Originally posted by Mike33
    A public figure who spends his life playing around and being friends with gays without knowing it. All of a sudden if he finds out one of them is gay, he'd hate them. Is that rational? Somebody that stupid needs to be banished. Think what you want to think and say what you want (what he said isn't a crime nor is it being treated as one), but not everybody, including the NBA commissioner will agree with you, and you'll be out the door. Poor guy, can't attend NBA functions. Oh, the travesty and injustice of it all.

    I think we should change what people think. MAKE them like gays.

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    • escorpio
      doesn't fuck around.
      • Oct 2002
      • 23485

      #52
      Originally posted by Mike33
      What you do with yourself is up to you. But when you start talking about hating people for something as senseless as their sexual orientation (gee, does being gay make somebody a bad evil person to hate?) then a responsible organization will shun him. His opinions and feelings aren't sound. It has nothing to do with PC.
      You can be a convicted felon and play for the N.B.A. but if you ever have a run in with the Thought Police you're fucked. That has everything to do with PC.
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      • stickyfingerz
        Doin fine
        • Oct 2005
        • 24984

        #53
        Originally posted by escorpio
        You can be a convicted felon and play for the N.B.A. but if you ever have a run in with the Thought Police you're fucked. That has everything to do with PC.
        Hush hush, it has nothing to do with political correctness...

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        • ContentSHOOTER
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2005
          • 3770

          #54
          Originally posted by stickyfingerz
          Look at all dem trees. I heard there was a forest around here... Anyone seen it?
          I think what he is saying that you can't see the forest for the trees
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          • SxDx
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            • Mar 2006
            • 2254

            #55
            what sulu says, goes! end of story haha

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            • Drake
              Hello world!
              • Mar 2003
              • 12508

              #56
              Originally posted by escorpio
              You can be a convicted felon and play for the N.B.A. but if you ever have a run in with the Thought Police you're fucked. That has everything to do with PC.
              So change the rules so that convicted felons can't play, if you think that's an issue. A felon is punished by the law in one way or another (serves his time or repays his debt), right? It's not up to the NBA to punish felons. What this guy did is not criminal so no law is going to punish him - the NBA will. If that's PC, so be it.

              He's free to think what he wants, nobody controls his thoughts or feelings. But don't express it if you want to play basketball, because that's not what the NBA stands for. As a role model (public figure), the NBA doesn't support people who hate others because of their sexual orientation. Pretty cut and dry.

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              • Porn Farmer
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2007
                • 928

                #57
                Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                Im far from a homophobe I think thats clear, but why is Tim not allowed to have his own thoughts and opinions without being crucified? He got punished by the NBA for his feelings? Pretty fucked up in my opinion.
                So professional athletes should be allowed to say whatever they want with no fallout?

                Stop living in fantasy land dude.

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                • Agent 488
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 22511

                  #58
                  that basketball players dick would rip mr. sulu into two. he should watch what he says ...

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                  • Spunky
                    I need a beer
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 133978

                    #59
                    Originally posted by budsbabes
                    that basketball players dick would rip mr. sulu into two. he should watch what he says ...
                    You seem to know what you're talking about..nothing can beat experience

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                    • gecko
                      ******
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 21846

                      #60
                      bahahaha
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                      • DeadFidel
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 6764

                        #61
                        As a Stern fan, I dig George! He has a great sence of humor

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                        • XVNRacer
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 16

                          #62
                          I'd have to agree that politically correct crap is just that. Also the concept of a "hate crime" smacks of fascism, there's no place for it in a free society. I heard a recording of Tim Hardaway's remarks, there seemed to be no thought behind them, just rage. Yes, Tim Hardaway has a right to verbally bash gays (I'm gay by the way) and when he gets verbally bashed in return that's someone else's right. I wasn't offended by such an ignoramus who made a public ass of himself. Free speech DOES mean you can say what you like, but you have to live with the consequences. Anyone who dishes it out ought be able to take it.

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                          • notabook
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 9748

                            #63
                            lmao... I love George Takei. Maybe even in a gay way. hmmmm.

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                            • interracialtoons
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2006
                              • 1910

                              #64
                              Originally posted by BoyAlley
                              OMG I'm just loving it.

                              Ever since George Takei (Mr. Sulu) came out of the closet, he's just been an absolute hoot! It's a shame he didn't come out years before:

                              George's Response To Homophobic Basketball Player:

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA20dKc3kK8

                              Lawds Mercy that was funnay!
                              I liked the part about the "Smooth Chocolately Head".
                              Done.

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                              • escorpio
                                doesn't fuck around.
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 23485

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Mike33
                                So change the rules so that convicted felons can't play, if you think that's an issue.
                                I think they should. Just an opinion.

                                Originally posted by Mike33
                                A felon is punished by the law in one way or another (serves his time or repays his debt), right? It's not up to the NBA to punish felons.
                                They don't need to give them jobs and shouldn't if they are truly worried about how the N.B.A. is represented.

                                Originally posted by Mike33
                                What this guy did is not criminal so no law is going to punish him - the NBA will. If that's PC, so be it.
                                The N.B.A.'s punishment IS motivated by political correctness. That's the point I was making.

                                Originally posted by Mike33
                                He's free to think what he wants, nobody controls his thoughts or feelings. But don't express it if you want to play basketball, because that's not what the NBA stands for. As a role model (public figure), the NBA doesn't support people who hate others because of their sexual orientation. Pretty cut and dry.
                                So the N.B.A. supports role models that have charges for cocaine possesion, spousal battery, rape,etc. as long as there is little to no public backlash. I think that's fucked up.

                                I am not defending what he said, just calling the N.B.A. on what I see as PC motivated hypocrisy.
                                Last edited by escorpio; 02-22-2007, 12:41 PM.
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                                • Fap
                                  Just Du It
                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 12094

                                  #66
                                  mr sulu is not gay!

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                                  • Drake
                                    Hello world!
                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 12508

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by escorpio
                                    I think they should. Just an opinion. They don't need to give them jobs and shouldn't if they are truly worried about how the N.B.A. is represented.
                                    Do you believe in rehabilitation or simply blacklisting people for their misdeeds which they've owned up to under the Law? If you pay your dues to society, you're supposed to be given another chance. If a court of law finds that a after a felon cleans his act up, he can still throw a ball thru a hoop and wants to make a career out of that, then why shouldn't he be allowed to?


                                    Originally posted by escorpio
                                    The N.B.A.'s punishment IS motivated by political correctness. That's the point I was making.
                                    No doubt is plays a role, but so what?

                                    The decision is based on logic, morality, and economics. He's banned from NBA functions because:

                                    1) his opinions are morally indefensible and illogical, and clearly hit a tone with the public; human relations are important
                                    2) his opinions may associate the NBA with things the NBA doesn't want to be associated with (irrational hate), for myriad reasons including their bottom line
                                    4) his opinions may make some players uncomfortable, and help to create a poisonous environment, for no rational reason
                                    3) his opinions may hold sway for the people that look up to him, and the NBA doesn't wish to give him a platform, because it could be interpreted as condoning his opinions.

                                    Based on this, the NBA commissioner probably doesn't like him expressing these particular opinions and as the person in charge, he has the freedom to ban the player from NBA functions.

                                    Motivated by PC? Partly. Hypocritical? To a degree, but that's life. I'm a hypocrite and you are too.


                                    Originally posted by escorpio
                                    So the N.B.A. supports role models that have charges for cocaine possesion, spousal battery, rape,etc. as long as there is little to no public backlash. I think that's fucked up.
                                    Those are legal matters, and yes if there is no public backlash, then obviously the public doesn't deem it to be an issue, which means it won't effect the NBA bottom line. Presumably these guys are sent to jail or are somehow punished under the law for their illegal actions.

                                    Look, the guy can't attend NBA events anymore. It's not like they're going to lynch him or give him 20 years. He's a grown man, he can take it.

                                    Originally posted by escorpio
                                    I am not defending what he said, just calling the N.B.A. on what I see as PC motivated hypocrisy.
                                    Fair enough. I understood your position and sticky's from the start.

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                                    • Drake
                                      Hello world!
                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 12508

                                      #68
                                      What's more PC about something like this is the demanding of an apology, which we all know he will give, but that we all know is not genuine. Don't make the guy grovel on camera to apologize - he hates gays; that's fine and his perogative. I think he's been handled appropriately by being banned.
                                      Last edited by Drake; 02-22-2007, 01:04 PM.

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                                      • alexg
                                        IL4L.com
                                        • Aug 2003
                                        • 11287

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
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                                        • escorpio
                                          doesn't fuck around.
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 23485

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Mike33
                                          Do you believe in rehabilitation or simply blacklisting people for their misdeeds which they've owned up to under the Law? If you pay your dues to society, you're supposed to be given another chance. If a court of law finds that a after a felon cleans his act up, he can still throw a ball thru a hoop and wants to make a career out of that, then why shouldn't he be allowed to?
                                          Because the N.B.A. should take a moral stance on the people they set up to be role models.


                                          Originally posted by Mike33
                                          The decision is based on logic, morality, and economics.
                                          The decision is based on almost purely on economics. The N.B.A. has shown their lack of morality by giving convicted felons a pass. It's all about the bottom line.
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                                          • Drake
                                            Hello world!
                                            • Mar 2003
                                            • 12508

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by escorpio
                                            Because the N.B.A. should take a moral stance on the people they set up to be role models.

                                            The decision is based on almost purely on economics. The N.B.A. has shown their lack of morality by giving convicted felons a pass. It's all about the bottom line.
                                            Oh come now. Even the President of the United States has had run-ins with the law prior to being elected to lead the country. If the decision was made purely on economics as you say, that's good business.

                                            Let the law do its job, let organizations run their businesses properly.
                                            Last edited by Drake; 02-22-2007, 01:53 PM.

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