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  • Robbie
    Leaner, Meaner, Faster
    • Aug 2002
    • 20960

    #1

    Anyone Having Luck With Lia 19 Hardcore Scene?

    Is anybody seeing some good sales promoting Lia 19's first hardcore fuck with Vivid Cash?
    Just curious as I have pushed it to the best of my ability for the whole weekend without much luck so far. Just wondering how it's faring with others.
    -Robbie
    ClaudiaMarie.Com
  • DigitalTheory
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    • Jul 2007
    • 1055

    #2
    I find it a bit awkward, just not her style. To me one of those girls that should have not crossed over

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    • tical
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      • Feb 2002
      • 6504

      #3
      Originally posted by DigitalTheory
      I find it a bit awkward, just not her style. To me one of those girls that should have not crossed over
      I have to agree with this comment
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      • Robbie
        Leaner, Meaner, Faster
        • Aug 2002
        • 20960

        #4
        I don't know enough about what she did before to comment about her style. I just always threw up the galleries from FTV of her. Didn't do a ton of sales with that either...just okay. But I've never made a fraction of sales on softcore that I do on hardcore so that's pretty normal for that.

        But I was thinking from all the hype that she had a really big fan base and it would reflect in this new scene for sales.

        Anyway, I'm just curious from some others who are promoting this if it is living up to the hype or if sales are okay or if it's like me with zero sales so far.
        -Robbie
        ClaudiaMarie.Com

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        • fuzebox
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          • Oct 2003
          • 22352

          #5
          The galleries have no actual hardcore, that's frustrating... I wish we could use a real hardcore clip to promote with, even 20 seconds.

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          • Mutt
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            • Sep 2002
            • 34431

            #6
            i think her jump to hardcore came too late in her career as a nude model.
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            • Robbie
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              • Aug 2002
              • 20960

              #7
              Originally posted by Mutt
              i think her jump to hardcore came too late in her career as a nude model.
              You may have hit it on the head.

              EDIT: Just out of curiosity I looked up her site. It's been online since 2003
              So yeah, 7 years of being 19 years old and not doing hardcore may have been a bit too long to wait. Imagine if she had done it in say 2006 0r 2007 before piracy and the economic collapse. I bet her fan base would have been there then.
              Last edited by Robbie; 05-16-2010, 03:44 PM.
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              • Agent 488
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                • Feb 2006
                • 22511

                #8
                get a fucking allison angel hardcore set and make some $.

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                • DigitalTheory
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                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1055

                  #9
                  I dunno sorta like if karla spice ever did hardcore, I think she would loose what she has going for her right now.

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                  • Kellie
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                    • Aug 2005
                    • 1198

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DigitalTheory
                    I dunno sorta like if karla spice ever did hardcore, I think she would loose what she has going for her right now.
                    haha yeah no worries about that, she won't be going hardcore anytime soon LOL. I think the fanbase on softcore sites are somewhat different from the hardcore base. I know Karla for example, some of her members flipped when she went topless and a lot of them don't want her to go further. It's like they want her to stay in that "girlfriend" image they have. I'm sure Lia's fans are like that as well, and then of course you have those that will always support what the model wants to do. I think Lia looks great though, if hardcore is what she wants to do then good for her


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                    • Sly
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                      • Sep 2004
                      • 31376

                      #11
                      I was curious about all of this the other day so I was checking out the Vivid website. I really think they need to make a specific page targeting Lia and really hype it up in order for affiliates to get good results. As it is, you go to the site and she just looks like another girl. For affiliates to make money from this I would think that you would need to presell it really hard.
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                      • DigitalTheory
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kellie
                        haha yeah no worries about that, she won't be going hardcore anytime soon LOL. I think the fanbase on softcore sites are somewhat different from the hardcore base. I know Karla for example, some of her members flipped when she went topless and a lot of them don't want her to go further. It's like they want her to stay in that "girlfriend" image they have. I'm sure Lia's fans are like that as well, and then of course you have those that will always support what the model wants to do. I think Lia looks great though, if hardcore is what she wants to do then good for her
                        Exactly this lol. I was hoping you would pop in and respond lol. I see her freeones thread still going on about her site and the direction and all this crap.

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                        • marcop
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                          • Nov 2005
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kellie
                          I know Karla for example, some of her members flipped when she went topless and a lot of them don't want her to go further. It's like they want her to stay in that "girlfriend" image they have.
                          These guys don't like to fuck their hot girlfriends? There's a name for guys like that... now what is it? It's on the tip of my tongue...

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                          • dyna mo
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                            • Dec 2008
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by marcop
                            These guys don't like to fuck their hot girlfriends? There's a name for guys like that... now what is it? It's on the tip of my tongue...
                            no, they don't want to watch someone else fuck their girlfriend.

                            + the best fantasy is created in the brain.

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                            • fris
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                              • Aug 2002
                              • 55679

                              #15
                              Originally posted by fuzebox
                              The galleries have no actual hardcore, that's frustrating... I wish we could use a real hardcore clip to promote with, even 20 seconds.
                              download it off a torrent site and cut up some clips
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                              • xNetworx
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                                • Jan 2004
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                                #16
                                LIA!!!! She rocks

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                                • marcop
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                  no, they don't want to watch someone else fuck their girlfriend.

                                  + the best fantasy is created in the brain.
                                  You're right... I didn't think of it like that. I guess I've been shooting porn too long.

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                                  • Deej
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                                    • Jun 2005
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Agent 488
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                                    • kane
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                                      • Aug 2001
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                                      #19
                                      I think they should have done it like the Jordan Capri hardcore scene and made it seems like a "stolen" home video instead of her just becoming a hardcore pornstar.

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                                      • Deej
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                                        • Jun 2005
                                        • 24386

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by kane
                                        I think they should have done it like the Jordan Capri hardcore scene and made it seems like a "stolen" home video instead of her just becoming a hardcore pornstar.
                                        And how exactly do you plan on doing that with vivid?

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                                        • Mutt
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                                          • Sep 2002
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Deej
                                          And how exactly do you plan on doing that with vivid?
                                          easy - VIVID could have done a celeb home video sex tape with Lia before announcing they had signed her as a VIVID girl. they would have shot it to look like a real homemade sex tape that an ex-boyfriend of Lia peddled to them.

                                          that would have worked better i think.
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                                          • Mutt
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                                            • Sep 2002
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                                            #22
                                            the real hardcore solo girl site fan doesn't want to see his dream girl getting fucked - there goes the fantasy he had about her. they'll all buy or join to see it when she does but after that they'll leave in droves.

                                            Raven Riley was hardcore from the beginning. that's different.
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                                            • marketsmart
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                                              • Dec 2004
                                              • 20419

                                              #23
                                              i'm getting a lot of views of the video on my tube site.....





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                                              • Sly
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Deej
                                                And how exactly do you plan on doing that with vivid?
                                                Why not? They are releasing other sex tapes.
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                                                • CIVMatt
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                                                  • Aug 2004
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                                                  #25
                                                  As I said before they waited too long, Lia19 sex tape is about as interesting as glue drying
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                                                  • Lightning
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                                                    • Feb 2001
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                    The galleries have no actual hardcore, that's frustrating... I wish we could use a real hardcore clip to promote with, even 20 seconds.

                                                    Bingo, agreed..

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                                                    • BIGTYMER
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                                                      • Nov 2004
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                                                      #27
                                                      I thought it was a good video.

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                                                      • RyuLion
                                                        • Mar 2003
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                                                        #28
                                                        You guys are insane..

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                                                        • Deej
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                                                          • Jun 2005
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by RyuLion
                                                          You guys are insane..
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                                                          • Robbie
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                                                            • Aug 2002
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                                                            #30
                                                            So is anybody here promoting this other than me? I haven't heard anybody say if they are or not or what the results have been so far.
                                                            -Robbie
                                                            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                            • babymaker
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                                                              • Jan 2004
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Robbie
                                                              So yeah, 7 years of being 19 years old .




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                                                              • Spunky
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                                                                • Jun 2002
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                the real hardcore solo girl site fan doesn't want to see his dream girl getting fucked - there goes the fantasy he had about her. they'll all buy or join to see it when she does but after that they'll leave in droves.

                                                                Raven Riley was hardcore from the beginning. that's different.
                                                                Agreed 100%.Always liked Lia but it seems a little desperate for an aging woman.not that she's looking old,still very attractive but doing hardcore ruins the fantasy in a way.I guess you go where the money is to pay the bills

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                                                                • LiveDose
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  I agree, it's a timing issue.

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                                                                  • XXXMovie4M
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                                                                    • Sep 2008
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    in the first place, who is stupid enough to name a site based on a girls age? unless they only expected her to last a year or if the 19 meant something unique like she has 19 nipples.

                                                                    in my opinion i think it was a big mistake for her to go hardcore after being a solo girl for so long. she probably had a loyal following but now she's stuck between two worlds. how many hardcore girls have successfully switched to softcore?

                                                                    she or someone managing her probably felt it would help her career and bring in sales but the bottom line is sales aren't going to increase much for any of us until the economy improves.

                                                                    people are panicking from lack of sales and messing with stuff they shouldn't be messing with. if the site worked before the recession it will work when things recover, we just have to be more aggressive with marketing and wait it out.

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                                                                    • LoveSandra
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                                                                      • Aug 2008
                                                                      • 10551

                                                                      #35
                                                                      she is awesome

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                                                                      • Deej
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                                                                        • Jun 2005
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Well obviously I know nothing of video production

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                                                                        • dyna mo
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                                                                          • Dec 2008
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by XXXMovie4M
                                                                          in the first place, who is stupid enough to name a site based on a girls age? unless they only expected her to last a year or if the 19 meant something unique like she has 19 nipples.

                                                                          in my opinion i think it was a big mistake for her to go hardcore after being a solo girl for so long. she probably had a loyal following but now she's stuck between two worlds. how many hardcore girls have successfully switched to softcore?

                                                                          she or someone managing her probably felt it would help her career and bring in sales but the bottom line is sales aren't going to increase much for any of us until the economy improves.

                                                                          people are panicking from lack of sales and messing with stuff they shouldn't be messing with. if the site worked before the recession it will work when things recover, we just have to be more aggressive with marketing and wait it out.

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                                                                          • CarlosTheGaucho
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                                                                            • Oct 2005
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Kellie
                                                                            haha yeah no worries about that, she won't be going hardcore anytime soon LOL. I think the fanbase on softcore sites are somewhat different from the hardcore base. I know Karla for example, some of her members flipped when she went topless and a lot of them don't want her to go further. It's like they want her to stay in that "girlfriend" image they have. I'm sure Lia's fans are like that as well, and then of course you have those that will always support what the model wants to do. I think Lia looks great though, if hardcore is what she wants to do then good for her
                                                                            Funny but that's exactly my feelings,

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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                              + the best fantasy is created in the brain.
                                                                              That.

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                                                                              Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                              7 years of being 19 years old


                                                                              I would have thought if she needed to move to hardcore for $$ she would have been better off creating a new separate image for that and not associating it with the Lia 19 name.
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                                                                              • babebuns
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                the scene itself sucks ass

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                                                                                • seeandsee
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  i like her doing hardcore, fuck the sales
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                                                                                  • Marcus Aurelius
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                    But I was thinking from all the hype that she had a really big fan base
                                                                                    There was no hype. Actually, it was a move of desperation (go hardcore cause the girl isn't selling anymore).

                                                                                    The hype = GFY sigwhores posting "top notch" comments in a BRO thread.

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                                                                                    • CIVMatt
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by MDCQ
                                                                                      There was no hype. Actually, it was a move of desperation (go hardcore cause the girl isn't selling anymore).

                                                                                      The hype = GFY sigwhores posting "top notch" comments in a BRO thread.
                                                                                      nail=head right there
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                                                                                      • dyna mo
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                                                                                        • Dec 2008
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        well, vivid pitched her as an "internet sensation" that's hype eh.

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                                                                                        • Kenny B!
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          The only people who will make anything off that type of scene are those with her ex-members email addresses, other then that I doubt anyone really cares that a nude model did hardcore.
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                                                                                          • Wizzo
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I've always enjoyed hanging out with Lia over the years and don't blame her for signing with Vivid because I'm sure she's getting a nice paycheck regardless, but this is another clear example that the big studios are out of touch on how the internet market works.
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                                                                                            • Roald
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                                                                                              #47
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                                                                                              She def. went up in rank over it but sofar sales are so so


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                                                                                              • fuzebox
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                                                                                                • Oct 2003
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by fris
                                                                                                download it off a torrent site and cut up some clips
                                                                                                I'm not going to use content that hasn't been approved.

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                                                                                                • JP-pornshooter
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                  easy - VIVID could have done a celeb home video sex tape with Lia before announcing they had signed her as a VIVID girl. they would have shot it to look like a real homemade sex tape that an ex-boyfriend of Lia peddled to them.

                                                                                                  that would have worked better i think.
                                                                                                  seems pretty simple, but that would require people to think outside the box.
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                                                                                                  • kristin
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by DigitalTheory
                                                                                                    I find it a bit awkward, just not her style. To me one of those girls that should have not crossed over
                                                                                                    I agree ... I liked her without taking dick.
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