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  • madawgz
    8.8.8.8
    • Mar 2006
    • 30509
    #1

    Gambling Ban coming soon to Canada? wtf

    here's an email i got from Firepay today...

    Effective February 21, 2007, FirePay (www.firepay.com) will no longer allow Canadian consumer payments to online gambling merchants.

    Effective February 28, 2007, FirePay (www.firepay.com) will no longer allow Canadian consumers to receive payments from online gambling merchants.

    All Canadian FirePay account holders will continue to be able to make purchases and receive payments from non-gambling online merchants, as well as to "Deposit From" and "Withdraw To" their Canadian bank account.

    Click here for a listing of non-gambling merchants that accept FirePay: http://www.firepay.com/_stores/default.asp

    For any questions regarding these deadlines or this policy, please email [email protected].

    Sincerely,
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    • fris
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        • starpimps
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          • Sep 2006
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          #3
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            • CDSmith
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              • May 2001
              • 51460
              #4
              This is the first I've even heard of "firepay"

              I doubt the policy changes of one company are a good indication of what an entire country will do.

              Canada has always been online gambling friendly, and I know that if people want to gamble they are going to find ways to do it, period.
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                • Jensen
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                  • Apr 2001
                  • 3790
                  #5
                  why the heck a country would even consider a ban is beyond me.. imagine loosing billions of dollars in taxes from consenting adults doing what they want with their money..

                  you can ban all fun, but people are still going to drink, gamble, get hookers and find porn.. heck.. tax it

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                    • starpimps
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                      • Sep 2006
                      • 6954
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Jensen
                      why the heck a country would even consider a ban is beyond me.. imagine loosing billions of dollars in taxes from consenting adults doing what they want with their money..

                      you can ban all fun, but people are still going to drink, gamble, get hookers and find porn.. heck.. tax it
                      thats the whole reason for the ban no?
                      the goverment doesn't have thier hands in the online gambling cookie jar

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                        • Dickie Dewrags
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                          • Jan 2007
                          • 69
                          #7
                          after the us government stole the "lottery" from organized crime and started making billions thats why the countries want to ban online gambling.the government wants control..
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                            • baddog
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 107089
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Jensen
                              why the heck a country would even consider a ban is beyond me.. imagine loosing billions of dollars in taxes from consenting adults doing what they want with their money..
                              You can't lose what you never had.

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                                • madawgz
                                  8.8.8.8
                                  • Mar 2006
                                  • 30509
                                  #9
                                  after, the governments will open their own poker sites lol

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                                    • stev0
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                                      • Aug 2003
                                      • 6801
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Jensen
                                      why the heck a country would even consider a ban is beyond me.. imagine loosing billions of dollars in taxes from consenting adults doing what they want with their money..

                                      you can ban all fun, but people are still going to drink, gamble, get hookers and find porn.. heck.. tax it
                                      How would the Canadian gov't be loosing any money on taxes? Online casinos generally aren't based in Canada, and winnings aren't taxable here.

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                                        • Nysus
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                                          • Aug 2001
                                          • 7817
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by madawgz
                                          after, the governments will open their own poker sites lol

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                                            • EscortBiz
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                                              • May 2002
                                              • 19422
                                              #12
                                              porn ban coming to canada

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                                                • tony299
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                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 57021
                                                  #13
                                                  I think alot of it is brick and mortar based casino putting pressure on the politicians. They do pay a shit load of taxes and online gambling cuts into their profits.

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                                                    • EscortBiz
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                                                      • May 2002
                                                      • 19422
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                                      I think alot of it is brick and mortar based casino putting pressure on the politicians. They do pay a shit load of taxes and online gambling cuts into their profits.
                                                      right on exactly what happened in the good ol USA

                                                      canada thou hasnt made any serious mention of this yet

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                                                        • tony299
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                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                          • 57021
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                                          porn ban coming to canada

                                                          Effective February 21, 2007, Cock and balls pay (www.Cockandballspay.com) will no longer allow Canadian consumer payments to online pornmerchants.

                                                          Effective February 28, 2007, Cock and balls pay (www.Cockandballspay.com) will no longer allow Canadian consumers to receive payments from online porn merchants.

                                                          All Canadian Cock and balls pay account holders will continue to be able to make purchases and receive payments from non-porn online merchants, as well as to "Deposit From" and "Withdraw To" their Canadian bank account.

                                                          Click here for a listing of non-gambling merchants that accept Cock and balls pay: http://www.Cockandballspay.com.com/_stores/default.asp

                                                          For any questions regarding these deadlines or this policy, please email [email protected].

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                                                            • lazycash
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                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 15214
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Jensen
                                                              why the heck a country would even consider a ban is beyond me.. imagine loosing billions of dollars in taxes from consenting adults doing what they want with their money..

                                                              you can ban all fun, but people are still going to drink, gamble, get hookers and find porn.. heck.. tax it
                                                              Lol, care to explain to us all who is paying those gambling taxes you elude to?
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                                                                • tony299
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                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 57021
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Now what I dont understand why didnt the land based casinos get into online gambling. I personally would feel more comfortable gambling with Caesars online or MGM online, then some online casino on a island out of government reach.

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                                                                    • interracialtoons
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • May 2006
                                                                      • 1910
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by lazycash
                                                                      Lol, care to explain to us all who is paying those gambling taxes you elude to?
                                                                      Me...

                                                                      When you win over a specific amount in a "brick/motar" gambling facility you must fill out a taxation claim form before you get paid. Some will even deduct the tax right then and there if you chose.
                                                                      Done.

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                                                                        • stickyfingerz
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                                                                          • Oct 2005
                                                                          • 24984
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Only in America....

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                                                                            • lazycash
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                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                              • 15214
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by interracialtoons
                                                                              Me...

                                                                              When you win over a specific amount in a "brick/motar" gambling facility you must fill out a taxation claim form before you get paid. Some will even deduct the tax right then and there if you chose.
                                                                              Um, he was referring to adults gambling online and the effects if Canada passes an online gambling ban.
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                                                                                • Theo
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                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                  • 34515
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  firepay is big

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                                                                                    • SexualDragon
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                                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                                      • 3038
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by madawgz
                                                                                      here's an email i got from Firepay today...



                                                                                      bow down to the USA
                                                                                      This is FUCKED!

                                                                                      The government runs "Legal" gambling in the form of lottery.

                                                                                      How hypocritical is that?
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                                                                                        • Kimo
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                                                                                          • Jan 2006
                                                                                          • 11542
                                                                                          #23
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                                                                                            • lazycash
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                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 15214
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                              This is the first I've even heard of "firepay"

                                                                                              I doubt the policy changes of one company are a good indication of what an entire country will do.

                                                                                              Canada has always been online gambling friendly, and I know that if people want to gamble they are going to find ways to do it, period.
                                                                                              Firepay is big and has been around for a long time, similar to Neteller.
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                                                                                                • madawgz
                                                                                                  8.8.8.8
                                                                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                                                                  • 30509
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                  Now what I dont understand why didnt the land based casinos get into online gambling. I personally would feel more comfortable gambling with Caesars online or MGM online, then some online casino on a island out of government reach.
                                                                                                  why would you feel more comfortable?

                                                                                                  they still take everyones money
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                                                                                                    • travelingmike
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                                                                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                                                                      • 182
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Online Gambling is alive and well.

                                                                                                      Every Casino, Sports Book, and Poker Room I deal with is still taking US players. They are all working on other processing methods.

                                                                                                      Online Gambling is not going away.

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                                                                                                        • CDSmith
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                                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                                          • 51460
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by lazycash
                                                                                                          Firepay is big and has been around for a long time, similar to Neteller.
                                                                                                          Whatever. I've never seen any firepay threads on this or any other wm board, they obviously aren't "big" in this business.

                                                                                                          And my main point stands... that I don't see them being "big" enough to represent government policy in Canada.


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                                                                                                            • UKJack
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                                                                                                              • Jan 2007
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Welcome to the nanny state I also live in one! Its super cool the government is always looking out for my well-being making sure we can't hurt ourselves and don't live our live in such a way they disapprove of.

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                                                                                                                • tehHinjew
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                                                                                                                  • Sep 2006
                                                                                                                  • 5755
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  thats retarded!
                                                                                                                  when they passed the law to ban online gambling, firepay had to let go a shit load of employees
                                                                                                                  now if they pass a law for canada
                                                                                                                  firepay is done!

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                                                                                                                    • manne
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                                                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                      • 641
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Online Gambling is alive and well.




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                                                                                                                        • Jensen
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                                                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                          • 3790
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by travelingmike
                                                                                                                          Online Gambling is alive and well.

                                                                                                                          Every Casino, Sports Book, and Poker Room I deal with is still taking US players. They are all working on other processing methods.

                                                                                                                          Online Gambling is not going away.

                                                                                                                          Check out http://www.gamblingboard.com
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                                                                                                                            • Jensen
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                                                                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                              • 3790
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by stev0
                                                                                                                              How would the Canadian gov't be loosing any money on taxes? Online casinos generally aren't based in Canada, and winnings aren't taxable here.
                                                                                                                              income isn't taxed in canada? Course it is.. you withdraw cash from an online casino or bookie you have to pay taxes on it.. or else I'd move my operations over there asap

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                                                                                                                                • tehHinjew
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                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2006
                                                                                                                                  • 5755
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Jensen
                                                                                                                                  income isn't taxed in canada? Course it is.. you withdraw cash from an online casino or bookie you have to pay taxes on it.. or else I'd move my operations over there asap
                                                                                                                                  lol in canada we dont pay taxes on winnings made from gambling

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                                                                                                                                    • Jensen
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                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 3790
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by tehHinjew
                                                                                                                                      lol in canada we dont pay taxes on winnings made from gambling
                                                                                                                                      oooookey? that would be the only country on the planet I know of..

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                                                                                                                                        • Jensen
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                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 3790
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by tehHinjew
                                                                                                                                          lol in canada we dont pay taxes on winnings made from gambling
                                                                                                                                          Guess you do.. had to google it:

                                                                                                                                          Profits derived from bookmaking or from the operation of any
                                                                                                                                          gambling establishment (carried on legally or otherwise) constitute
                                                                                                                                          income from a business. In addition, an individual may be subject to
                                                                                                                                          tax on income derived from gambling itself, if the gambling activities
                                                                                                                                          constitute carrying on the business of gambling; see the decision of
                                                                                                                                          MNR v. Morden, (1961) CTC 484, 61 DTC 1266 (Ex. Ct.). The issue of
                                                                                                                                          whether or not an individual's activities are such that he or she can
                                                                                                                                          be considered to be carrying on a gambling business is a question of
                                                                                                                                          fact that can be determined only by an examination of all of the
                                                                                                                                          circumstances and the taxpayer's entire course of conduct. Although no
                                                                                                                                          one factor may be conclusive, the following criteria should be
                                                                                                                                          considered in making the determination: (a) the degree of organization
                                                                                                                                          that is present in the pursuit of this activity by the taxpayer,
                                                                                                                                          (b) the existence of special knowledge or inside information that
                                                                                                                                          enables the taxpayer to reduce the element of chance,
                                                                                                                                          (c) the taxpayer's intention to gamble for pleasure as compared with
                                                                                                                                          any intention to gamble for profit as a means of gaining a livelihood,
                                                                                                                                          and
                                                                                                                                          (d) the extent of the taxpayer's gambling activities, including the
                                                                                                                                          number and frequency of bets.
                                                                                                                                          http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/tp/it...it334r2-e.html

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                                                                                                                                            • tony299
                                                                                                                                              lurker
                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 57021
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by madawgz
                                                                                                                                              why would you feel more comfortable?

                                                                                                                                              they still take everyones money
                                                                                                                                              Because one has a license with strict regulations and one doesnt.

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                                                                                                                                                • madawgz
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                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                                                  • 30509
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                  Because one has a license with strict regulations and one doesnt.
                                                                                                                                                  i guess, but the risk still remains...... ;)
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                                                                                                                                                    • Martin3
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                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                                      • 1529
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                      I think alot of it is brick and mortar based casino putting pressure on the politicians. They do pay a shit load of taxes and online gambling cuts into their profits.
                                                                                                                                                      That's exactly what happened. They listened to the lobby groups instead of thinking for half a second and realizing they could have made shit loads if they taxed it instead.
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