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  • Cyndalie
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    • Jan 2002
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    Is Internet Porn Killing the Adult Video Industry?

    Hard Times for the Porn Industry?, MSNBC/Newsweek

    (Summarized below)

    The adult film industry is unlikely to be worth as much as it claims—and the Internet that made porn so pervasive is driving a sales slump.

    two big stories that emerged from the Adult Entertainment Expo in Sin City last month: 1) the adult film industry is large enough to potentially be the deciding factor in the battle for format dominance between Blu-ray and High Definition (HD)-DVD, and 2) the adult film industry may be in its worst sales slump in recent memory.

    Inflated Profits
    The reason may well lie in the lack of confirmable information about the porn industry’s true size. These numbers—specifically that the sales and rental of pornographic videos and DVDs are a $3.6 billion industry—have been repeated so often in industry and mainstream news outlets that they have acquired the patina of fact. Throw in cable and satellite television, the Internet, magazines, strip clubs and novelties, and the oft-bandied estimate balloons to nearly $13 billion.

    But observers both inside and outside the industry have increasingly been calling that figure into serious question. "It's bogus," says Luke Ford, a lone-wolf industry gossip columnist, former investigative journalist and failed pornographer. "AVN is exaggerating by sevenfold on DVD sales and rentals."

    (Oh well, we all know Luke Ford is the most honest guy with the integrity of a professional journalist)

    "Everybody lies about their numbers," Paul Fishbein of AVN tells NEWSWEEK. "Almost every year I want to abandon our survey [of the industry]. It's a lot of work for an estimate."

    (Yet Fishbein responds that he has "no reason" to mistrust his head researcher.)

    These estimates of course don’t account for the elephant in the Web: Internet porn. It’s nearly impossible to get any reliable data on how much people are making online, but anecdotal evidence suggests that it’s much less than the $2.8 billion business AVN makes it out to be.

    (Goes on to talk about pirating woes like the music industry is going through, why pay for porn when you can get it free..etc)

    “Never has so much porn been released,” writes director/producer James (Jimmy D.) DiGiorgio in an e-mail. “It has become harder and harder for a (newer) manufacturer's product to stand out, and that has resulted in harder and more extreme content being produced. Like many others in the adult industry, I've seen my personal income take a hit as a result of all this ... If the adult industry produces so many billions of dollars, where are the billionaires among its ranks?”

    (Talks about Blu-Ray and how with DVD sales down porn will have little effect on the prevalance of BluRay in the long run)

    “I'm not sure porn will play too big a role in determining which standard rules,” e-mails DiGiorgio. “In the past, porn embraced new technologies that were just gaining a foothold. DVDs are not new, and I don't think consumers perceive Blu-Ray and HD-DVD as new technologies. Instead, they see them as an evolution of an existing technology.... With Blu-ray [versus] HD-DVD, porn will go where the masses go.” In other words, porn is not driving the bus—it’s riding shotgun.

    Where is porn driving the bus? “The most profitable area in porn is still the Internet,” says Ford. Despite the flood of free online content, Vivid still derives 30 percent of its roughly $100 million annual income from the Web.
    And momentum is building toward services like video-on-demand—both online and through satellite television.

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    Last edited by Cyndalie; 02-08-2007, 08:51 AM.
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  • NoWhErE
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    #2
    Zango took everything
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    • Ramos2
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      #3
      just wanted to say Hi Cyn
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      • SiMpLe
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        #4
        Great read!
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        • TheSenator
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          • Feb 2003
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          #5
          DVD sales are twindling, that is no secret.
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          • NinjaSteve
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            • Dec 2003
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            #6
            says Luke Ford, a lone-wolf industry gossip columnist, former investigative journalist and failed pornographer.
            Holy shit, it's MSNBC and they gave him that long of a title.
            ...

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            • Cyndalie
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              #7
              Originally posted by Ramos
              just wanted to say Hi Cyn
              Hey sweetie. We have to do one last Nippers gathering before I leave!
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              • MaxCandy
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                • Sep 2003
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                #8
                My new co MoireCandy just signed a huge contact to shoot 11 high budget movies for Private, business is strong if you are good.


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                Private Media Signs Deal with Moiré Candy
                By: Thomas J. Stanton
                Posted: 8:00 am PST 12-27-2006

                PRAGUE - Czech Republic-based production company Moiré Candy recently signed a deal to produce 11 movies in 2007 for the Private Media Group in 2007.

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                Moiré Candy, just a little over a year old, is co-owned by directors Max Candy and Lois Moiré. The company will produce five originally scripted features and six movies for a new line called Private Auditions.

                The young, European company also recently signed Slovakian talent Claudia Rossi and Keana Moire to multiple-production deals.

                A representative for Private Media Group said that the company has had incredible success with Moiré Candy’s previous releases, Kill Thrill and Private Dive and fully expects the creative and talented directing duo to continue to produce award winning movies.

                Moiré Candy specializes in what Candy calls “rock video-style feature porn movies.” The company’s first production under the new agreement will be released in March of 2007.

                Private is a multi-platform-based adult entertainment company, offering subscription-based porn through movies, magazines, the Internet, its broadband video on-demand site, along with live sex chat, adult personals, DVD rental service, and an online shop. Private won AVN’s Best Foreign Feature award last year for Robinson Crusoe on Sin Island. The company is known for launching the careers of several top starlets, including Monica Sweetheart and Silvia Saint.

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                • Fat Panda
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                  #9
                  fuck it all i am done here

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                  • Wizzo
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                    #10
                    Lets hope so... buy your porn online!
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                    • Tylo
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Cyndalie
                      Hey sweetie. We have to do one last Nippers gathering before I leave!
                      Where are you going? Let me know when you guys get something planned for Nippers
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                      • Cyndalie
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Tylo
                        Where are you going? Let me know when you guys get something planned for Nippers
                        Sure man, How about next Friday the 16th?
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                        • sherie
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                          #13
                          I prefer to get my movies via the store still, although I will do a PPV ocassionally. Also, I really have no desire for HD movies....I do NOT need to see every detail that vividly. Too much make up, someone's pores or pimples on the ass crack...noooooooo spankxx!

                          I think numbers are inflated everywhere....but what I really want to know is, how anyone can take Luke seriously and why he is still called upon to make comments. Anyone can say shit, pick me, pick me lol Knob!
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                          • James_Hotmovies
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                            #14
                            Internet is killing the industry. It's definitly killing the stores though.

                            Why would people go to a store to buy porn?

                            The only reason to go to a store these days is to meet creepy people.
                            or if you have to pass through one leaving the strip club.
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                            • Matilda PP
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                              #15
                              It definitely doesn't help...
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                              • jixxi
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                                #16
                                Great find. I think it's true.

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                                • Rochard
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                                  #17
                                  The adult industry has a long history and it's constantly changing.

                                  It started with pin up magazines and then porn magazines. There was laser disk, beta, and VHS, and now DVD. The adult Internet came on board and push the technology.

                                  We are about to go through another big change. DVD sales will continue to decline and even more so as it becomes more common to download high quality video footage to your computer and them beam it to your TV. In the next few years even the TV Cable channels will start to decline because we'll be streaming TV footage to our TV from the Internet.

                                  If you don't believe me, check out Windows Vista.

                                  The Internet is about to change the entire entertainment industry.
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                                  • Barefootsies
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Rochard
                                    The adult industry has a long history and it's constantly changing.

                                    It started with pin up magazines and then porn magazines. There was laser disk, beta, and VHS, and now DVD. The adult Internet came on board and push the technology.

                                    We are about to go through another big change. DVD sales will continue to decline and even more so as it becomes more common to download high quality video footage to your computer and them beam it to your TV. In the next few years even the TV Cable channels will start to decline because we'll be streaming TV footage to our TV from the Internet.

                                    If you don't believe me, check out Windows Vista.

                                    The Internet is about to change the entire entertainment industry.
                                    Correct sire.

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                                    • Big Red Machine
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                                      #19
                                      The only thing thats constant is change. I remember talking with an ol'timer who filmed in the 60's thru early 80's. When the VHS tape came out they were selling them like Hot Cakes for $100. Where ever money is being made or assumed its being made people pile in saturate the market. Then the products get whored out...(like dvds now)

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                                      • jaYMan
                                        peace&profit,
                                        • Jan 2001
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                                        #20
                                        We are creatures of habit.

                                        Guys that grew up with mags still prefer mags.

                                        VHS folks still buy VHS and prob dipped into DVD.

                                        DVDers prob dip into net a bit.

                                        Net peeps are net peeps. I'd never buy a VHS or mag again, unless the mag was being framed in my office.

                                        Kill is a strong word, but I do think todays consumers are more towards net. But then again, who has net? Is it evenly distributed amongst the population? Nope. Income range barriers. I make no sense, I'm going back to chatting with my stalker.
                                        peace&profit,
                                        jaYMan

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                                        • jaYMan
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                                          • Jan 2001
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                                          #21
                                          damnit im still; thinking about it lol... photographers who prefer chromes over digital images insist that chromes still the way to go...
                                          peace&profit,
                                          jaYMan

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                                          • Cyndalie
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                                            #22
                                            Thanks for your feedback guys, certainly food for thought although the article does leave a lot of revenue streams the internet does provide production companies.
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                                            • MsWild
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                                              #23
                                              nice read...good find
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                                              • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                #24
                                                Interesting. Thanks for posting this.
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