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  • nick3131
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2004
    • 1193

    #1

    Content is King VS Traffic is King

    This is one of my favorite debates in the industry. I will not state my position until I get a few replies, just to see what others have to say about this.
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    Content is King
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    Traffic is King
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  • he-fox
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2006
    • 2884

    #2
    traffic.

    If you got it, you can monetize it easier than good content IMO.

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    • nick3131
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2004
      • 1193

      #3
      so far 100% traffic, much expected, keep em coming

      make sure you state your reasoning
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      • Roald
        SecretFriends.com
        • May 2001
        • 27910

        #4
        both are king!


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        • tranza
          ICQ: 197-556-237
          • Jun 2003
          • 57559

          #5
          Traffic.

          I'm just a newbie.

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          • Jace
            FBOP Class Of 2013
            • Jan 2004
            • 35562

            #6
            both are equal if you are going to do it right

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            • DaddyHalbucks
              A freakin' legend!
              • Feb 2004
              • 18975

              #7
              If you have traffic, you have customers.

              So, traffic is King.

              Period.

              =End of Debate=
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              • itto
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2006
                • 1364

                #8
                imho, traffic.
                when the average joe surfer looks at a paysite tour he wont give a shit if all those pics and videos are exclusive or brand spankin new.. if he likes what hes lookin at, he'll buy.
                it's all about the presentation i think.

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                • fris
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                  • Aug 2002
                  • 55800

                  #9
                  i hate the saying content is king.
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                  • nick3131
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 1193

                    #10
                    *cough* retention *cough*

                    not taking sides, just trying to throw some fuel in the fire

                    I have a stand, but wont reveal it yet.
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                    • datatank
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 5471

                      #11
                      Neither Billing is KING

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                      • grumpy
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 9870

                        #12
                        you need both, but without good content they never come back and your conversions are shit.
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                        • nick3131
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                          • Dec 2004
                          • 1193

                          #13
                          who voted content?
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                          • fuzebox
                            making it rain
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 22365

                            #14
                            T minus 10 seconds until Paul Markham comes in

                            I'm with the traffic camp as well. With numbers I can sell ice to an eskimo, content is just "product X" to me. Obviously it does factor in, but traffic far outweighs it.

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                            • nick3131
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                              • Dec 2004
                              • 1193

                              #15
                              Traffic definetly

                              Lets take 2 programs
                              A: has 10x more traffic but 10x less content
                              B: has 10x more content but 10X less traffic

                              A makes more $ then B, because 10x less content doesn't mean 10x less retention.

                              Easy formula.
                              Signed nick3131

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                              • Roald
                                SecretFriends.com
                                • May 2001
                                • 27910

                                #16
                                Originally posted by fuzebox
                                T minus 10 seconds until Paul Markham comes in

                                I'm with the traffic camp as well. With numbers I can sell ice to an eskimo, content is just "product X" to me. Obviously it does factor in, but traffic far outweighs it.
                                Paul has magic join links, he doesn't need traffic


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                                • bausch
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                                  • Jul 2006
                                  • 3017

                                  #17
                                  CONTENT IS KING BUT TRAFFIC IS GOD

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                                  • stickyfingerz
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                                    • Oct 2005
                                    • 24984

                                    #18
                                    Content is king for me hehe.

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                                    • beta-tester
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                                      • Sep 2004
                                      • 22562

                                      #19
                                      I would say content is king! No shit, quality not quantity

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                                      • DamageX
                                        Marketing & Strategy
                                        • Jun 2001
                                        • 14293

                                        #20
                                        No content = no traffic
                                        No traffic = no sales

                                        Pointless debate.
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                                        • nick3131
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                                          • Dec 2004
                                          • 1193

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by DamageX
                                          No content = no traffic
                                          not really, i could buy google adwords and send them to a blank page.
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                                          • Barefootsies
                                            Choice is an Illusion
                                            • Feb 2005
                                            • 42635

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Jace
                                            both are equal if you are going to do it right
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                                            • DamageX
                                              Marketing & Strategy
                                              • Jun 2001
                                              • 14293

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by nick3131
                                              not really, i could buy google adwords and send them to a blank page.
                                              Google = collection of content links. Without them Google would have no traffic.
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                                              • Expo_Vids
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                                                • Jul 2005
                                                • 1162

                                                #24
                                                Very few people in Adult care about quality of content but that seems to be changing
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                                                • Snake Doctor
                                                  I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                  • 13449

                                                  #25
                                                  Content may be king, but traffic rules.
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                                                  • ayne468
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                                                    • Jan 2007
                                                    • 1738

                                                    #26
                                                    Both important...but without traffic...you have nothing!

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                                                    • Tempest
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • May 2004
                                                      • 10217

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by DamageX
                                                      No content = no traffic
                                                      No traffic = no sales

                                                      Pointless debate.
                                                      Your comment only applies if you assume one without the other. But that's not really the question.. The question implies there is some of both, but which one is more important..

                                                      Think of it this way... What should you spend the majority of your time focusing on.... You can sell crap with plenty of traffic so IMO traffic is the most important thing.

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                                                      • VicD
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                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                        • 13245

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by pornopete
                                                        Ask the hun.

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                                                        • MaDalton
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                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                          • 39861

                                                          #29
                                                          you think Karups, ATK or Twistys would make the same with shitty content and just 20 sets?
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                                                          • NinjaSteve
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Dec 2003
                                                            • 11089

                                                            #30
                                                            Traffic can bring sales. Content can bring rebills. Shhh... it's a secret.
                                                            ...

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                                                            • Matt 26z
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                              • 18481

                                                              #31
                                                              This is one of the stupidest debates in adult.

                                                              You've got to have the content to draw the traffic. If you are somehow getting the traffic without the content, then just imagine what your traffic could be.

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                                                              • Juilan
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                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                • 15141

                                                                #32
                                                                Depends what each costs you. How else could you compare the value?
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                                                                • DamageX
                                                                  Marketing & Strategy
                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                  • 14293

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Tempest
                                                                  The question implies there is some of both
                                                                  Wow, didn't notice that implication... Might be because it wasn't mentioned in the initial post?
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                                                                  • HomeFry
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                                                                    • Jun 2006
                                                                    • 1062

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by nick3131
                                                                    This is one of my favorite debates in the industry. I will not state my position until I get a few replies, just to see what others have to say about this.


                                                                    You will notice all of the noobs voting for "Traffic is King". I pose this to all of you... If you build a store that is empty, then advertise the hell out of it, and pack the building full of people... Will you become rich? Nope. You have nothing to sell.

                                                                    However, if you pack a store with product, then open the doors, with minimal marketing, you will make money.

                                                                    Obviously you need both to be successful and grow, however, putting the cart before the horse never works. Send traffic to a blank page and see how much $ you earn from it.

                                                                    This debate has been settled many times over. I don't understand where the disconnect is with you people.

                                                                    Content is King. Traffic is Queen. Together they can build a Kingdom.

                                                                    Move along. This is once again... Settled.
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                                                                    • Violetta
                                                                      Affiliate
                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                      • 28735

                                                                      #35
                                                                      TRAFFUCK!!!!!!!!!!!! You can have the best content in the world, but it aint shit without traffic.
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                                                                      • DamageX
                                                                        Marketing & Strategy
                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                        • 14293

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Rockatansky
                                                                        TRAFFUCK!!!!!!!!!!!! You can have the best content in the world, but it aint shit without traffic.
                                                                        See the post about yours.
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                                                                        • Buzz
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                                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                                          • 1908

                                                                          #37
                                                                          A good marketer can sell snow to polar bear

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                                                                          • DamageX
                                                                            Marketing & Strategy
                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                            • 14293

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Buzz
                                                                            A good marketer can sell snow to polar bear
                                                                            Yes, as long as there are polar bears around.
                                                                            Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                            If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                            • cheekycherry
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                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                              • 1703

                                                                              #39
                                                                              You can make money with a shit load of traffic but crap content.

                                                                              You can't make any money with no traffic and great content.

                                                                              (although it's rarely as black and white as the above)

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                                                                              • StuartD
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                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                • 29903

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Why choose one? Just get both.
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                                                                                • billybathgate
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                                                                                  • Jan 2007
                                                                                  • 483

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by QuaShe
                                                                                  Paul has magic join links, he doesn't need traffic
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                                                                                  • DeanCapture
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                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                    • 9275

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Expo_Vids
                                                                                    Very few people in Adult care about quality of content but that seems to be changing
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                                                                                    • 96ukssob
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                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                      • 12991

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      content is king. but then again, im thinking for seo ;)

                                                                                      honestly, i do much better with 1000 visitors a day from se that i know what they are searching for, so i can optmize the page, then 10k random visiotrs that are looking for just something to beat their meat to
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                                                                                      • Brooke Anderson
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                                                                                        • Jan 2006
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Traffic is king for me. I can shoot content all day and have nobody to sell it to without traffic.

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                                                                                        • SleazyDream
                                                                                          I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                          • 41470

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          well - lets look at the brokers


                                                                                          I honeslty don't think the big content brokers make as much as the traffic brokers.

                                                                                          just my opinion


                                                                                          one traffic broker being google.....
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                                                                                          • DamageX
                                                                                            Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                                            • 14293

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                            well - lets look at the brokers


                                                                                            I honeslty don't think the big content brokers make as much as the traffic brokers.

                                                                                            just my opinion


                                                                                            one traffic broker being google.....
                                                                                            Absolutely, but if there were no content whom would they be brokering traffic to? Or WHAT traffic, to begin with?
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                                                                                            • goldmine
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jan 2005
                                                                                              • 952

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              traffic and content are INTERDEPENDENT.

                                                                                              high traffic with shitty content? your traffic will drop.

                                                                                              Awesome content with low traffic? Just wait...

                                                                                              well thats just my

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                                                                                              • nick3131
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                                                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                                                • 1193

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                                Absolutely, but if there were no content whom would they be brokering traffic to? Or WHAT traffic, to begin with?
                                                                                                You're looking at it from a very idealistic perspective.

                                                                                                Sure you're right, no content, no market, no industry. No way to argue against that, its common sense.

                                                                                                But the fact is, there is content everywhere. Its easy to get, and fairly cheap, and only getting cheaper. Where as good quality traffic is getting harder and more expensive to attain.

                                                                                                What % of a startup affilliate program budget will be spent on traffic vs content. I would figure at least a 70/30 ratio, and thats being generous.
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                                                                                                • Brad Gosse
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                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Some kinds of content will bring you all the traffic in the world ;)

                                                                                                  Balance is king
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                                                                                                  • devilspost
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