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  • reynold
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    • Oct 2002
    • 51271

    #1

    Are HDMI cables really necessary?

    Or is this another plot by DVD makers to chump a little extra change off LCD/Big screen TV buyers?
  • leming
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    • Apr 2003
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    • tony299
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      • Aug 2002
      • 57021

      #3
      they work but very expensive

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      • mx8829
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        • Jan 2005
        • 891

        #4
        They do make a big difference. I bought a SONY 46" LCD and an HD Home Theater DVD system a week ago, when I bought it I didn't realize how expensive the cables and stuff was going to be.

        I not only have to upgrade my cable box to a HD digital cable box but also spent another $400 on just HDMI and Fiberoptic cables. If you are using an LCD screen you will see pixaltion on non digital channels if you use S video or component, but using HDMI will fix that problem. Aleast it did for me.

        You can buy the monster HDMI cables for abut $49.99 , they well fine.
        Last edited by mx8829; 02-06-2007, 11:27 PM.
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        • MassiveDollars - DonPaul

          #5
          HDMI cables is a MUST, especially if you are using larger screens!

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          • BitAudioVideo
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            • Jul 2005
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            #6
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            • 96ukssob
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              • Mar 2003
              • 12991

              #7
              yes, they do make a difference. you can get cheap crappy ones but you pay for what you get.

              However, if you have a HD tv, a must have is a Monster Power Center, they start about $300 but made a HUGE differnece in the picture and sound
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              • reynold
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Oct 2002
                • 51271

                #8
                Originally posted by mx8829
                They do make a big difference. I bought a SONY 46" LCD and an HD Home Theater DVD system a week ago, when I bought it I didn't realize how expensive the cables and stuff was going to be.

                I not only have to upgrade my cable box to a HD digital cable box but also spent another $400 on just HDMI and Fiberoptic cables. If you are using an LCD screen you will see pixaltion on non digital channels if you use S video or component, but using HDMI will fix that problem. Aleast it did for me.

                You can buy the monster HDMI cables for abut $49.99 , they well fine.
                That's what I have right now... monster HDMI 1081i cables... Is it just me or is there a transmission issue? The rez goes from sharp to pixelated edges. I guess I have to return the cables and get a replacement.

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                • FlowerKid
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 1045

                  #9
                  Be careful before buying a DVI <-> HDMI cable if you want wo connect a PC (Media Center or something) to a display that doesn't has a standard 720 or 1080 resolution. The point is, that my plasma TV has a resolution of 1366x768 and this resolution is not supportet on the HDMI/DVI input! The only solution for me was to connect the PC with a normal VGA cable. The picture looks very good after the automatic calibration of the TV with the inputted VGA signal.
                  Summary: If all devices support native HD resolutions, then buy a HDMI cable. But if you want to use non standard resolutions, then in most cases the digital connection doesn't work.

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                  • Violetta
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                    • Jul 2004
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                    #10
                    I'm glad they came with the xbox360! HD quality rocks
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                    • PussyTeenies
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                      • Feb 2005
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                      #11
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                      • rowan
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                        • Mar 2002
                        • 17393

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bossku69
                        yes, they do make a difference. you can get cheap crappy ones but you pay for what you get.

                        However, if you have a HD tv, a must have is a Monster Power Center, they start about $300 but made a HUGE differnece in the picture and sound
                        It's a piece of wire transmitting voltage on, voltage off. How can paying $300 for a "high end" cable make a huge difference?

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                        • Holly
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                          • Jun 2003
                          • 10017

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bossku69
                          yes, they do make a difference. you can get cheap crappy ones but you pay for what you get.

                          However, if you have a HD tv, a must have is a Monster Power Center, they start about $300 but made a HUGE differnece in the picture and sound
                          Where exactly are you getting that information from? I had my satellite guy and multiple TV sales people all laughing at the idiots who go out and buy expensive cables. Every single one of them told me the companies selling these "top of the line" cables are making a fortune because they convince consumers there is a difference, when in fact, there is not. I was told the cheapest one I could find would be just the same as the most expensive one.

                          I ordered the HD satellite and DVR receiver package from Direct TV after I bought my LCD and there was an HDMI cable included inside the box with the DVR, so luckily I didn't have to buy one at all.




                          edit: When the fuck did Reynold change from a dutch, ESL, broken English, can't understand most of the shit he writes, sig whore, to starting threads about HDMI 1081i cable transmission issues and pixelated edges?????????

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                          • Houdini
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                            • Dec 2001
                            • 1651

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rowan
                            It's a piece of wire transmitting voltage on, voltage off. How can paying $300 for a "high end" cable make a huge difference?
                            Exactly, they either transmit the signal or they don't. There's no difference between a $6 dollar HDMI cable found here, or a $300 Monster Cable. Monster Cables are the biggest rip off and total scam. If you think there's a difference, buy them both and have someone mix them up so you don't know which one is which and connect them. You will never see the difference.

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                            • blazin
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                              • Aug 2002
                              • 2781

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Houdini
                              Exactly, they either transmit the signal or they don't. There's no difference between a $6 dollar HDMI cable found here, or a $300 Monster Cable. Monster Cables are the biggest rip off and total scam. If you think there's a difference, buy them both and have someone mix them up so you don't know which one is which and connect them. You will never see the difference.
                              Yep.... I've heard the same thing.... fortunately I got my HDMI free with my new Samsung DVD player

                              The quality of the cable only makes a difference with analogue cables.
                              I don't endorse a god damn thing......

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                              • Dollarmansteve
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2005
                                • 2849

                                #16
                                HDMI cables are necessary if you want 1080p - do not buy name brand cables, go to www.monoprice.com and buy them there for $10 a pop.
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                                • HammerALL
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                                  • Apr 2004
                                  • 3506

                                  #17
                                  they are worth it and I got a pair off ebay for $11 - just dont' buy from bestbuy - they will rape you.
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                                  • evildick

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Rockatansky
                                    I'm glad they came with the xbox360! HD quality rocks
                                    Those are component cables, not HDMI.

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                                    • mx8829
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2005
                                      • 891

                                      #19
                                      well as I said about just by changing the cables from component to HDMI made all the difference for me. Yea cheap ass comcast only gave me crappy component cable and not HDMI.

                                      I agree DirectTv is getting far better in terms of service than fucking comcast. Unfortunately there is a month waiting list for directTV in my area.

                                      All in all when it comes to HD LCD tv's cables do play a big role. I didn't belive others until I bought my TV. LOL
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                                      • Martin3
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                                        • Oct 2005
                                        • 1529

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by mx8829
                                        well as I said about just by changing the cables from component to HDMI made all the difference for me. Yea cheap ass comcast only gave me crappy component cable and not HDMI.

                                        I agree DirectTv is getting far better in terms of service than fucking comcast. Unfortunately there is a month waiting list for directTV in my area.

                                        All in all when it comes to HD LCD tv's cables do play a big role. I didn't belive others until I bought my TV. LOL
                                        You could have spent $15 instead of $400 and it would have made the same difference
                                        Cable quality really only matter with analog.
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                                        • KrisKross
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                                          • Jan 2006
                                          • 5025

                                          #21
                                          so who the fuck are you and where's the old reynold? did you kill him?

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                                          • aico
                                            Moo Moo Cow
                                            • Mar 2004
                                            • 14748

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Rockatansky
                                            I'm glad they came with the xbox360! HD quality rocks


                                            The XBox 360 HD-DVD player does not support HDMI sorry.

                                            "Additionally, movie studios can program discs to display at lower resolution when displayed via component-video outputs, which could render the Xbox 360 HD-DVD drive almost useless for many consumers"

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                                            • aico
                                              Moo Moo Cow
                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 14748

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Martin3
                                              You could have spent $15 instead of $400 and it would have made the same difference
                                              Cable quality really only matter with analog.
                                              Component video and HDMI are not the same thing.

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                                              • emthree
                                                Dialer Kingpin
                                                • Jun 2003
                                                • 10816

                                                #24
                                                I made the switch from VGA to DVI and it made a big difference.
                                                I'm not too sure about component to HDMI. Anyone have a comparison?

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                                                • Martin3
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                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                  • 1529

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by aico
                                                  Component video and HDMI are not the same thing.
                                                  umm yeah no shit. What does that have to do with anything I posted?
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                                                  • aico
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                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                    • 14748

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by mx8829
                                                    well as I said about just by changing the cables from component to HDMI made all the difference for me. Yea cheap ass comcast only gave me crappy component cable and not HDMI.
                                                    Originally posted by Martin3
                                                    You could have spent $15 instead of $400 and it would have made the same difference
                                                    Cable quality really only matter with analog.
                                                    Originally posted by Martin3
                                                    umm yeah no shit. What does that have to do with anything I posted?
                                                    Try and figure it out yourself.

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                                                    • reynold
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 51271

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Holly
                                                      edit: When the fuck did Reynold change from a dutch, ESL, broken English, can't understand most of the shit he writes, sig whore, to starting threads about HDMI 1081i cable transmission issues and pixelated edges?????????

                                                      Just goes to show you... don't underestimate people--specially once they have more time on their hands

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                                                      • reynold
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 51271

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by KrisKross
                                                        so who the fuck are you and where's the old reynold? did you kill him?
                                                        As I have observed: Hate kills the hater more than the guy they're hating. So ease up on the haterade, buddy.

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                                                        • 96ukssob
                                                          So Fucking Banananananas
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 12991

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Holly
                                                          Where exactly are you getting that information from? I had my satellite guy and multiple TV sales people all laughing at the idiots who go out and buy expensive cables. Every single one of them told me the companies selling these "top of the line" cables are making a fortune because they convince consumers there is a difference, when in fact, there is not. I was told the cheapest one I could find would be just the same as the most expensive one.

                                                          I ordered the HD satellite and DVR receiver package from Direct TV after I bought my LCD and there was an HDMI cable included inside the box with the DVR, so luckily I didn't have to buy one at all.
                                                          my friend used to work at an electornics/car stereo store and told me basically what you said is true, with some exceptions. sure, most of the "name brand" cables you buy are just as good as teh generic ones off ebay. however, with some like monster, they have the fibers spun more tightly and use a grounding cable down teh center to prevent some distortion.

                                                          i have noticed a difference myself between a generic hdmi cable and the monster hdmi cable.
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                                                          • 96ukssob
                                                            So Fucking Banananananas
                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 12991

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by rowan
                                                            It's a piece of wire transmitting voltage on, voltage off. How can paying $300 for a "high end" cable make a huge difference?
                                                            not $300 for the cable. the cable i got was "high end" for $99 bucks.

                                                            what i was referring to is this

                                                            http://www.monstercable.com/power/lineRefPower.asp

                                                            2 other people besides myself noticed a difference when they bought one as well. ive heard they really help extending the life of plasmas as well
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                                                            • KrisKross
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                                                              • Jan 2006
                                                              • 5025

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by reynold
                                                              As I have observed: Hate kills the hater more than the guy they're hating. So ease up on the haterade, buddy.
                                                              Haterade? That's not a filipino term. Where have you been outsourced to now?

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                                                              • sltr
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                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                • 3191

                                                                #32
                                                                the great thing about hdmi cables is i can plug all my sources, xbox, cable box, dvd player, etc. into my av receiver then just have 1 cable- the hdmi cable to plug into my television from the receiver!


                                                                less clutter!

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                                                                • MattO
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                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                  • 10861

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I used to work retail electronics and Monster products are the biggest scam going. People at stores push them because the markup is insane, a cable that costs the store around 3 bucks they'll sell for 100.

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                                                                  • Dollarmansteve
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                                                                    • May 2005
                                                                    • 2849

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by bossku69
                                                                    my friend used to work at an electornics/car stereo store and told me basically what you said is true, with some exceptions. sure, most of the "name brand" cables you buy are just as good as teh generic ones off ebay. however, with some like monster, they have the fibers spun more tightly and use a grounding cable down teh center to prevent some distortion.

                                                                    i have noticed a difference myself between a generic hdmi cable and the monster hdmi cable.
                                                                    Digital signals dont suffer from teh distortion, only data loss
                                                                    I died.

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                                                                    • Wiggles
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                                                                      • May 2004
                                                                      • 14423

                                                                      #35
                                                                      i work for a cable company, they are not required, still get hd picture with monster cables, but hdmi is definately a better picture.
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                                                                      • Holly
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                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                        • 10017

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by reynold
                                                                        Just goes to show you... don't underestimate people--specially once they have more time on their hands
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                                                                        • evildick

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by aico


                                                                          The XBox 360 HD-DVD player does not support HDMI sorry.

                                                                          "Additionally, movie studios can program discs to display at lower resolution when displayed via component-video outputs, which could render the Xbox 360 HD-DVD drive almost useless for many consumers"

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                                                                          The 360 upscales regular DVDs and plays HD-DVDs (with add-on drive) up to 1080P if you use the VGA cable. They can't stop people from using that. I haven't seen an HDTV made in the last 3 years that didn't have a VGA input.

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                                                                          • Martin3
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                                                                            • Oct 2005
                                                                            • 1529

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by aico
                                                                            Try and figure it out yourself.
                                                                            The only thing I figured out is you have the reading comprehension skills of a mound of dirt.

                                                                            He would have noticed the same difference on cheap HDMI and toslink cables as he did with the $400 dollars ones he said he bought.
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                                                                            • Snake Doctor
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                                                                              • Mar 2001
                                                                              • 13449

                                                                              #39
                                                                              I bought a DVD upconverter and it wouldn't work without the hdmi cable.
                                                                              It would play dvd's in 480i but that's it.

                                                                              Plugged in the $100 HDMI cable and now it plays all of my old dvd's in 1080i...amazing difference in picture.
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                                                                              • Tom_PM
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                                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                                • 16443

                                                                                #40
                                                                                I spent about 10 bucks each for my HDMI cables and they're fine. With a digital signal, the cable works or it doesnt. Yes some giant companies have excellent quality control and such, but in the end it'll work or it wont.

                                                                                I have an HD DVD player, HD DVR for cable, and 1080i plasma. The HD DVD player *requires* the HDMI cable to upconvert normal DVD's. So obviously you need it depending on your disc setup, or not.

                                                                                Component signals from my DVR box to my TV looks better than the HDMI picture.

                                                                                Component signals from my HDDVD to my tv looks better than HDMI.

                                                                                So for me, the only time I use HDMI is when I'm watching a standard DVD in the HD player (since it's required). Otherwise it falls back to 480.

                                                                                So IMHO, unless you have a unit that REQUIRES HDMI, stick with component cables. And when you do buy an HDMI cable, shop completely on who has the lowest price.
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                                                                                • emthree
                                                                                  Dialer Kingpin
                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                  • 10816

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                                  I spent about 10 bucks each for my HDMI cables

                                                                                  Component signals from my HDDVD to my tv looks better than HDMI.
                                                                                  Maybe that's why?

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                                                                                  • Tom_PM
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                                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                                    • 16443

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    No, digital signals work or dont work. It's not like an analog component cable where the denser shielding and most pure copper makes a big difference. You have 100&#37;, or you have 0%.
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