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  • L-Pink
    working on my tan
    • Mar 2005
    • 39151

    #1

    Steve Jobs is a fucking tool .....

    Jobs says record labels should drop DRM.

    What would he say if you could download free ipods?


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/...yrighted_music
  • SomeCreep
    :glugglug
    • Mar 2003
    • 26118

    #2
    Steve Jobs is the reason you're using an operating system with a graphical user interface right now and not posting this through a DOS prompt. You think someone that brilliant is a tool? I do not.

    DRM is a big mess. It does more bad, than it does good.

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    • Trax
      [----------------------]
      • Aug 2001
      • 14486

      #3
      he is right
      they should drop it
      its a pain

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      • aico
        Moo Moo Cow
        • Mar 2004
        • 14748

        #4
        He's not a tool, he's a fucking Machine!!!!

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        • L-Pink
          working on my tan
          • Mar 2005
          • 39151

          #5
          Originally posted by SomeCreep
          Steve Jobs is the reason you're using an operating system with a graphical user interface right now and not posting this through a DOS prompt. You think someone that brilliant is a tool? I do not.

          DRM is a big mess. It does more bad, than it does good.
          I didn't say he was a dumb-ass ... I just don't think "content" should be free.

          Note, I'm a heavy Apple product user and know how "protective" they are of their own "rights"

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          • macmark
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2006
            • 196

            #6
            Originally posted by L-Pink
            Jobs says record labels should drop DRM.

            What would he say if you could download free ipods?


            http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/...yrighted_music
            Did you read what Jobs actually said??

            "Though the big four music companies require that all their music sold online be protected with DRMs, these same music companies continue to sell billions of CDs a year which contain completely unprotected music. That?s right! No DRM system was ever developed for the CD, so all the music distributed on CDs can be easily uploaded to the Internet, then (illegally) downloaded and played on any computer or player.

            So if the music companies are selling over 90 percent of their music DRM-free, what benefits do they get from selling the remaining small percentage of their music encumbered with a DRM system? "

            http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/

            Pretty valid point if you ask me.

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            • MetaMan
              I AM WEB 2.0
              • Jan 2003
              • 28682

              #7
              Originally posted by macmark
              Did you read what Jobs actually said??

              "Though the big four music companies require that all their music sold online be protected with DRMs, these same music companies continue to sell billions of CDs a year which contain completely unprotected music. That?s right! No DRM system was ever developed for the CD, so all the music distributed on CDs can be easily uploaded to the Internet, then (illegally) downloaded and played on any computer or player.

              So if the music companies are selling over 90 percent of their music DRM-free, what benefits do they get from selling the remaining small percentage of their music encumbered with a DRM system? "

              http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/

              Pretty valid point if you ask me.

              steve jobs just pwned this thread.

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              • notabook
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2006
                • 9748

                #8
                rofl... yeah ok, the man's a tool for stating the obvious. Whatever.

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                • Fap
                  Just Du It
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 12094

                  #9
                  He would say how

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                  • L-Pink
                    working on my tan
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 39151

                    #10
                    Originally posted by macmark
                    Did you read what Jobs actually said??

                    "Though the big four music companies require that all their music sold online be protected with DRMs, these same music companies continue to sell billions of CDs a year which contain completely unprotected music. That?s right! No DRM system was ever developed for the CD, so all the music distributed on CDs can be easily uploaded to the Internet, then (illegally) downloaded and played on any computer or player.

                    So if the music companies are selling over 90 percent of their music DRM-free, what benefits do they get from selling the remaining small percentage of their music encumbered with a DRM system? "

                    http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/

                    Pretty valid point if you ask me.

                    macmark, Yes I read it, yes I made the mistake I try to avoid .....

                    The mistake of forming an opinion based on half-ass media reporting, sound-bytes if you will ... The yahoo article leaves out important details contained in the Apple release. Details that make sense.

                    Thanks for correcting me

                    Sorry Steve .....

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                    • TexasDreams
                      former Miserable Admin :)
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 4700

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SomeCreep
                      Steve Jobs is the reason you're using an operating system with a graphical user interface right now and not posting this through a DOS prompt. You think someone that brilliant is a tool? I do not.

                      DRM is a big mess. It does more bad, than it does good.
                      Actually the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center is the reason we all are using graphical user interfaces. That's where Jobs saw and swiped the idea from. Along with networking computers and laser printers.
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                      • CaptainHowdy
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 94102

                        #12
                        Originally posted by aico
                        He's not a tool, he's a fucking Machine!!!!
                        !!

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                        • Barefootsies
                          Choice is an Illusion
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 42635

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SomeCreep
                          Steve Jobs is the reason you're using an operating system with a graphical user interface right now and not posting this through a DOS prompt. You think someone that brilliant is a tool? I do not.

                          DRM is a big mess. It does more bad, than it does good.
                          Um.. bone up on your history there chief.

                          Xerox was the company who developed the GUI, and the mouse. Not Apple. Xerox gave Apple, and Microsoft their 'crown jewel' back in the day. Apple managed to get it to the market in their computers before MS did in NEC's.

                          However, Jobs still is a monumental figure in what we have today. No question.

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                          • the alchemist
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 3271

                            #14
                            No, he's an iTool.
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                            • Barefootsies
                              Choice is an Illusion
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 42635

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TexasDreams
                              Actually the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center is the reason we all are using graphical user interfaces. That's where Jobs saw and swiped the idea from. Along with networking computers and laser printers.
                              Correct.
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                              Enough Said.

                              "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                              • reynold
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 51271

                                #16
                                P2P webmasters would be shaking if DRM was done away with..... how are they gonna pop HTML 'confirm' pages on unsuspecting leeches?

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                                • Space Monkey
                                  Registered User
                                  • Feb 2007
                                  • 98

                                  #17
                                  DRM is a major fucking annoyance.

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                                  • stickyfingerz
                                    Doin fine
                                    • Oct 2005
                                    • 24984

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by reynold
                                    P2P webmasters would be shaking if DRM was done away with..... how are they gonna pop HTML 'confirm' pages on unsuspecting leeches?
                                    Think this is referring to just hard goods says as dvds cds and maybe .mp3 downloads etc. It wouldnt stop anyone from creating drm for their own product.

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