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  • scouser
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    • Aug 2006
    • 2280
    #1

    Is it worth installing vista?

    Hi
    I have my hands on a copy of Vista business... Is it worth installing on my main computer, rather than XP Pro?

    For some reason MS likes to give it away to people like me... (Students... ;))

    Thanks
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    • Damian_Maxcash
      So Fucking Banned
      • Oct 2002
      • 12745
      #2
      I have got rid of it, for the second time.

      I had a beta a while ago and I have been using final for a few weeks.

      Its really not worth it. You will be wowed - for the first 10 minutes.

      Then as time goes on you become more and more pissed off with it.

      As I said, I have just gone back to XP after a few weeks and I have been stunned at how fast my machine works.

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        • Martin3
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2005
          • 1529
          #3
          Vista is alot faster for me then xp and 2000 was.
          You got to have the hardware for it though.
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            • Damian_Maxcash
              So Fucking Banned
              • Oct 2002
              • 12745
              #4
              Originally posted by Martin3
              Vista is alot faster for me then xp and 2000 was.
              You got to have the hardware for it though.
              It must be something I am doing wrong then - I have a high spec machine (2 gig ram, 512 video etc.) and the damn thing bogged it down.

              Its meant to be XP compatable - have you tried extracting anything with winzip? 100 Meg files have been taking 30 mins or more.

              I really dont lke it.

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                • Martin3
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1529
                  #5
                  Originally posted by damian2001
                  It must be something I am doing wrong then - I have a high spec machine (2 gig ram, 512 video etc.) and the damn thing bogged it down.

                  Its meant to be XP compatable - have you tried extracting anything with winzip? 100 Meg files have been taking 30 mins or more.

                  I really dont lke it.
                  Did you do a clean install?

                  I'm using x64 ulitmate and it's been flawless so far. Zip's a rars extract fine for me.
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                    • SomeCreep
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                      • Mar 2003
                      • 26118
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Martin3
                      Vista is alot faster for me then xp and 2000 was.
                      You got to have the hardware for it though.
                      I love your sig. What fight is that? I want to watch it on youtube.

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                        • leming
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                          • Apr 2003
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                          #7
                          You need to wait SP1 and compatible device drivers
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                            • Martin3
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                              • Oct 2005
                              • 1529
                              #8
                              Originally posted by SomeCreep
                              I love your sig. What fight is that? I want to watch it on youtube.
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                                • notabook
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                                  • Apr 2006
                                  • 9748
                                  #9
                                  Long answer: NO! Short answer: NO!

                                  Vista is about 5% slower than XP on average even with above average hardware. I guess that's to be expected though... I'd wait until SP1 patch for Vista before even considering upgrading though honestly I'm likely to stick to XP until the programs I use simply don't have updates anymore on XP. I see no purpose on upgrading until what I use becomes obsolete.

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                                    • the source
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                                      • Apr 2004
                                      • 1255
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by leming
                                      You need to wait SP1 and compatible device drivers
                                      quoted for truth.
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                                        • SomeCreep
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                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 26118
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Martin3
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                                            • niche25
                                              GoFuckYourself
                                              • Nov 2006
                                              • 407
                                              #12
                                              I have Vista Ultimate on three computers now and I totally love it. I do recommend that you buy the full install versus the upgrade and the reason is, if you ever have a problem and need to format for whatever reason, with the upgrade disk you'll need to reinstall xp first, then vista... gay I know.

                                              Buy the full version, upgrade to it and enjoy!! Make sure you have a good video card and lots of ram!!!! BTW, it's not slower.

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                                                • notabook
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Apr 2006
                                                  • 9748
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by niche25
                                                  BTW, it's not slower.
                                                  It is a bit slower than XP, from 1-5% depending on what you are doing with it. Some things though, Vista actually has a leg-up on.

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                                                    • niche25
                                                      GoFuckYourself
                                                      • Nov 2006
                                                      • 407
                                                      #14
                                                      It really depends. I don't know how your able to notice a 1-5% difference in performance but I will tell you that on the three computers I now have it running on I have noticed an improvement.

                                                      Maybe it's because I am an MCSE/MCSA and I have a leg up on configurations or something else but it does run faster for me. In reality it all depends on the box you’re running it on, but the one thing I like the most is I am now able to use the 4GB of ram installed, versus XP only being able to utilize 2GB. That in itself is pretty important for the multiple, memory intensive applications I run.

                                                      To give you an idea, here are the systems I run that have a better overall performance running Vista Ultimate:

                                                      System 1:

                                                      .Intel Dual Core 3.2Ghz Processor
                                                      .4GB Ram @ 667Mhz DDR2
                                                      .4 500GB SATA 10k RPM drives
                                                      .2 NVidia 7900GTX TOP cards (512MB VRam) in SLI config.


                                                      System 2:

                                                      .2 Intel Dual Core Xeon Processors/SuperMicro motherboard
                                                      .6GB ECC RAM
                                                      .2 146GB 15k rpm SCSI Drives
                                                      .2 73GB 15k rpm SCSI Drives
                                                      .1 NVidia 7900GTX 512MB VRam


                                                      * Obviously the systems I run are higher performance machines and anything will run well on them, but Vista Ultimate improved system performance per benchmark software.

                                                      Now, I have an AMD Compaq laptop that is about 2 years old, and since installing Vista Ultimate, I have noticed a little degradation in performance. Reason is it only has 512MB Ram and a 64MB Video card. In this situation it is obvious there will be less performance.

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                                                        • woj
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                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                          • 47880
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by niche25
                                                          Now, I have an AMD Compaq laptop that is about 2 years old, and since installing Vista Ultimate, I have noticed a little degradation in performance. Reason is it only has 512MB Ram and a 64MB Video card. In this situation it is obvious there will be less performance.

                                                          running vista with 500 megs of ram?
                                                          xp doesn't even run right with 500 megs, heh
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                                                            • Pimpin_J
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                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                              • 3637
                                                              #16
                                                              Dont use it. It sucks!

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                                                                • niche25
                                                                  GoFuckYourself
                                                                  • Nov 2006
                                                                  • 407
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Pimpin_J
                                                                  Dont use it. It sucks!
                                                                  WOW. Just, wow.

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                                                                    • niche25
                                                                      GoFuckYourself
                                                                      • Nov 2006
                                                                      • 407
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by woj
                                                                      running vista with 500 megs of ram?
                                                                      xp doesn't even run right with 500 megs, heh
                                                                      Trust me I know. It runs fine until you turn it on, lol!! I have ordered it's replacement but I use that laptop as an example.

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                                                                        • Martin3
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Oct 2005
                                                                          • 1529
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by woj
                                                                          running vista with 500 megs of ram?
                                                                          xp doesn't even run right with 500 megs, heh
                                                                          Yes it does. You have to know how to setup operating systems, default windows installs are always a bit bloated and clunky, even 2000.

                                                                          Vista is the same way, I can see how it would annoy the shit out of the average user with a default install. Especially the user access controls, and I think it had something like 60 process's running at first from all the unneeded services that enabled by default.

                                                                          Vista may be slower in some benchmarks for now, but so was XP when it came out. When XP launched the gaming community hated it and swore to never leave 98se
                                                                          Of course once hardware caught up that changed.

                                                                          One of the things Vista excels at right now is multitasking. It uses more ram because it caches more, but it also makes multitasking instant.
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                                                                            • bobby666
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                                                                              • Nov 2005
                                                                              • 21765
                                                                              #20
                                                                              why do you need a new operating system, do you have problems to access your harddrive or to start aplications ???????????????????????????

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                                                                                • Dirty Dane
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                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                  • 9491
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Waiting until most bugs are gone

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                                                                                    • ae-sc
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                                                                                      • Sep 2006
                                                                                      • 507
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by woj
                                                                                      running vista with 500 megs of ram?
                                                                                      xp doesn't even run right with 500 megs, heh


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                                                                                        • wjxxx
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                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                          • 4448
                                                                                          #23
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                                                                                            • Adultnet
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                                                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                                                              • 8713
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              vista is great you should go and install it..


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                                                                                                • Violetta
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                                                                  • 28735
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  I want it cause it looks great, but not sure since almost everyone says it sucks!
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                                                                                                    • Lazonby
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                                                                      • 2262
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Is niche25 Bill Gate's fake nick?

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                                                                                                        • just a punk
                                                                                                          So fuckin' bored
                                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                                          • 32385
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Presentation of Vista:


                                                                                                          At least it's very stable
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                                                                                                            • just a punk
                                                                                                              So fuckin' bored
                                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                                              • 32385
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Rockatansky
                                                                                                              I want it cause it looks great, but not sure since almost everyone says it sucks!
                                                                                                              Actually it looks like a piece of shit, those annoying transparent-windows, ugly icons and dirty-looking shadows... Vista is just a lame Mac wannabe
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                                                                                                                • Natural Cause
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                                                                                                                  • Oct 2006
                                                                                                                  • 222
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  I was really disapointed in Beta 2, but the released version rocks. Not 1 issue so far.

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                                                                                                                    • DateDoc
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                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                      • 14243
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by cyberxxx
                                                                                                                      Presentation of Vista:


                                                                                                                      At least it's very stable

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                                                                                                                        • venus
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                          • 3112
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          I am running Vista and so far I like it allot, seems faster then XP to me.

                                                                                                                          It seems like the only ones who dont like it are the ones not using it or the ones who are/were using beta versions.
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                                                                                                                            • madawgz
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                                                                                                                              • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                              • 30509
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              im not installing that shit for quite some time...
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                                                                                                                                • Scroto
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                                                                  • 2804
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Been using it since the early betas. The release version sucks if you do the upgrade. It works way better on a fresh full install.

                                                                                                                                  I didnt have any driver issues with the release version as I did with prior betas. So it is improving! lol

                                                                                                                                  That being said, I wont use it full time on my main machine for at least a few more months!

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                                                                                                                                    • dotcommer
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2006
                                                                                                                                      • 312
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by niche25
                                                                                                                                      System 1:

                                                                                                                                      .Intel Dual Core 3.2Ghz Processor
                                                                                                                                      .4GB Ram @ 667Mhz DDR2
                                                                                                                                      .4 500GB SATA 10k RPM drives
                                                                                                                                      .2 NVidia 7900GTX TOP cards (512MB VRam) in SLI config.


                                                                                                                                      System 2:

                                                                                                                                      .2 Intel Dual Core Xeon Processors/SuperMicro motherboard
                                                                                                                                      .6GB ECC RAM
                                                                                                                                      .2 146GB 15k rpm SCSI Drives
                                                                                                                                      .2 73GB 15k rpm SCSI Drives
                                                                                                                                      .1 NVidia 7900GTX 512MB VRam
                                                                                                                                      Are you running the 64 Bit or 32 Bit Version?

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                                                                                                                                        • dotcommer
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2006
                                                                                                                                          • 312
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Does anyone know what the difference is between the 32 Bit and 64 Bit Version beside just speed improvement? More headaches or not with 64 bit etc...

                                                                                                                                          I have the following system.

                                                                                                                                          .Intel Dual Core 3.2Ghz Processor
                                                                                                                                          .4GB Ram @ 667Mhz DDR2
                                                                                                                                          500GB SATA 7200k RPM drives

                                                                                                                                          How do I know if the 64 Bit version will work and is it worth doing?
                                                                                                                                          I decided to purchase a new C Drive and try it out. If it doesn't work I will just install my old C drive with XP and be back in Biz.

                                                                                                                                          FYI: I also bought the full Install OEM version of Vista ultimate for $199 from Fry's electronics.

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                                                                                                                                            • DatingGold
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                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 13185
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              I have vista and so far I like it. I like the way the interface looks, as far as anything spectacular it does? I just use my for business and so far it does that well enough lol.
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                                                                                                                                                • Barefootsies
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                                                                                                                                                  • 42635
                                                                                                                                                  #37
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                                                                                                                                                    • just a punk
                                                                                                                                                      So fuckin' bored
                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 32385
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by dotcommer
                                                                                                                                                      Does anyone know what the difference is between the 32 Bit and 64 Bit Version beside just speed improvement? More headaches or not with 64 bit etc...

                                                                                                                                                      I have the following system.

                                                                                                                                                      .Intel Dual Core 3.2Ghz Processor
                                                                                                                                                      .4GB Ram @ 667Mhz DDR2
                                                                                                                                                      500GB SATA 7200k RPM drives

                                                                                                                                                      How do I know if the 64 Bit version will work and is it worth doing?
                                                                                                                                                      I decided to purchase a new C Drive and try it out. If it doesn't work I will just install my old C drive with XP and be back in Biz.

                                                                                                                                                      FYI: I also bought the full Install OEM version of Vista ultimate for $199 from Fry's electronics.
                                                                                                                                                      Actually there is no speed improvement at all. Furthermore, your usual 32-bit applications will be a bit slower if you run them in 64-bit OS. Only native 64-bit applications, which use all the advantages of 64-bit CPU architecture will work faster than their 32-bit analogies and ONLY in case if they were rewritten right.

                                                                                                                                                      So don't be surprised if you notice some speed decrease when you run Prohoshop CS 2 or any other 32-bit application in WinXP 64 or Vista 64. BTW, Photoshop CS 2 works a way much solver in Vista 32/64 than if it run in XP 32/64 - that's a fact!
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                                                                                                                                                        • ucv.karl
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                          • 498
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by cyberxxx
                                                                                                                                                          Presentation of Vista:
                                                                                                                                                          The look all sea sick from all the blue.
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                                                                                                                                                            • s9ann0
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                                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 4873
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              no its not

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                                                                                                                                                                • dotcommer
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2006
                                                                                                                                                                  • 312
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by cyberxxx
                                                                                                                                                                  Actually there is no speed improvement at all. Furthermore, your usual 32-bit applications will be a bit slower if you run them in 64-bit OS. Only native 64-bit applications, which use all the advantages of 64-bit CPU architecture will work faster than their 32-bit analogies and ONLY in case if they were rewritten right.

                                                                                                                                                                  So don't be surprised if you notice some speed decrease when you run Prohoshop CS 2 or any other 32-bit application in WinXP 64 or Vista 64. BTW, Photoshop CS 2 works a way much solver in Vista 32/64 than if it run in XP 32/64 - that's a fact!
                                                                                                                                                                  Thank you very much. I appreciate the info.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Spudstr
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 2321
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
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