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  • tonyparra
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2008
    • 4568

    #1

    SPONSORS: When it comes to AFFILIATES using YOUR name...

    As their own, to promote YOUR product and sites where do you really stand? I read the twistys thread and this is different. Some sponsors have easy to recognize names so i understand the need to protect the name. Like most surfers know of reality kings, bang bros, twistys, etc. Would the sponsor be right/smart to restrict affiliates from using their trademarked domain names in promotion? For example pornprostube.com etc Please advise.

    The reason i ask is because the sponsors still havent figuired out how to get to the top of searches for even their own name, search on google for twistys tube, bang bros tube, etc and 9 of the top 10 will be result from rapid share and other tubes. Why not allow affiliate to promo your content and get those results? Why hammer a guy who wants to sell your stuff? Ford doesnt tell dealers not to use "ford" in their name. How many Joe Blow Ford dealers are in your area? I bought a car from bob gillingham ford.
    Last edited by tonyparra; 03-23-2010, 07:24 PM.

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  • tonyparra
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    • Jul 2008
    • 4568

    #2
    bump for answer from sponsors

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    • Agent 488
      Registered User
      • Feb 2006
      • 22511

      #3
      depends on each one.

      if you are looking for a blanket answer you are just going to get a blanket on your head.

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      • CYF
        Coupon Guru
        • Mar 2009
        • 10973

        #4
        some sponsors care, and some don't. You'll have to ask.
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        • tonyparra
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2008
          • 4568

          #5
          Well which sponsors do and dont? I would like to hear from them

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          • TeenCat
            Too lazy to set a koala
            • Jan 2007
            • 16131

            #6
            if you are promoting them right way you are just helping to grow their name and make them money. sponsors cant do everything

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            • Agent 488
              Registered User
              • Feb 2006
              • 22511

              #7
              Originally posted by tonyparra
              Well which sponsors do and dont? I would like to hear from them
              do your own research. there are thousands or programs out there man.

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              • tonyparra
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2008
                • 4568

                #8
                Originally posted by Agent 488
                do your own research. there are thousands or programs out there man.
                maybe this is part of research.

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                • papill0n
                  Unregistered Abuser
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 15547

                  #9
                  showing this thread to pussyserver

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                  • tonyparra
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 4568

                    #10
                    Originally posted by papill0n
                    showing this thread to pussyserver
                    explain please

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                    • NickB.
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2001
                      • 8858

                      #11
                      - Fine with me to buy google adwords on our brands and send to us
                      - Rank all you want

                      Anyone thats interested - lets chat

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                      • goodsites
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 538

                        #12
                        Originally posted by NickB. - Triplexcash
                        - Fine with me to buy google adwords on our brands and send to us
                        - Rank all you want

                        Anyone thats interested - lets chat
                        ^---- The way it should be.. Couldnt believe some of the fights and stuff stolen from
                        affiliate runners that see this as theft or someshit.. I'd welcome it with open arms if i ran a site... I could only learn from it on your dime... And when you stopped, i might start it up...Now if you took my NAME and promoted pages with other sites on there or something in that nature.. that is where the line is drawn

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                        • TheDA
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2006
                          • 4665

                          #13
                          I read someones terms the other day and it it stated something like,

                          "...and if your site overtakes ours in SE rankings we will ban your account and you will not be paid."
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                          • Sarah_Jayne
                            Now with more Jayne
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 40077

                            #14
                            We don't have a problem with people bidding for our site names, etc.

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                            • Pandoras
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 8447

                              #15
                              bump for more sponsor answers
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                              • Neighbor
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 1511

                                #16
                                Actually a very good topic....Most of the sponsors have never put a dime into SEO on their own sites...their function is to provide content.

                                If an affiliate wants to use your name in any legitimate marketing tactics, then they should have that right. Does it take away from your organic results....DOUBT IT if you never gave a rats ass before about organic SEO...

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                                • Raja
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2004
                                  • 1094

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by NickB. - Triplexcash
                                  - Fine with me to buy google adwords on our brands and send to us
                                  - Rank all you want

                                  Anyone thats interested - lets chat
                                  Us as well and we have trademarked brands.




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                                  • Itchy
                                    Datetronix.com
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 6525

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by tonyparra
                                    SPONSORS: When it comes to AFFILIATES using YOUR name...As their own, to promote YOUR product and sites where do you really stand?
                                    Using our name(s) to promote our products is fine with us.


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                                    • BestXXXPorn
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jun 2009
                                      • 2277

                                      #19
                                      Well, first, you can't stop anyone from using your name anywhere they want, or your logo, as long as it's not false advertising, libel, or misleading the consumer into thinking they are that brand... so yeah... you COULD cut off their accounts but that would be ridiculous...

                                      Every time they use your name on a page and link to you, or use your name in a link to you or whatever they're pushing page rank to you and casting a "vote" for you being that name...
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                                      • V_RocKs
                                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 32448

                                        #20
                                        I have several networks of cyber-squatted domains. NA is the second network to have a problem with it. The other was Lightspeed.

                                        Think of it this way...

                                        And we will use Lightspeed as an example...

                                        For just about every site he had I was #1. I made about $1,300 a month. Not a huge figure. Quite shocking actually. I was somewhere in his top 10 list of affiliates. I think #7. My sites were built similar in natural to a free site and converted very well. For shits and giggles lets look at it like this:

                                        My site: 1:30 to my site go to his site and then convert there at 1:70. I made a sweet ass sales pitch and most people stays for months and upgraded to the add $5 and get 10 sites or add $10 and get them all pass.

                                        He wanted his domain back. Said I couldn't do this in the TOS. Other affiliates complained. Basically because I was #1... for all of the sites in Google!

                                        So I give them back and remove all links. They instantly drop to page 20. Sites that overtake me look like complete crap or are TGP's or something of that nature.

                                        Now the top spot sends him traffic about 1:120 surfers and those convert with no sales pitch at 1:100 and buy the minimum pass more often.

                                        Math time... if 7,000 people a day looked for Jordan Capri I gave him 3 sales @ $39.95 per day.

                                        The guy that inherited the spot got 58 people to the site a day and converted them about 1 sales every 3 days for $29.95.

                                        With me as #1 - $119.85
                                        With him @ #1 - $22.46

                                        I am sure Steve made a lot more money. What he could have done is asked me to share in revenue via SEO. I could have pointed the domain 301 style to his and kept the links. Then he could have said, "Hey, how about I pay you $1000 a month to get me to #1 and keep me there for a 2 year period. Then we renegotiate the contract." That would have made him much more cash...
                                        Last edited by V_RocKs; 03-24-2010, 10:07 AM.

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                                        • spazlabz
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 6548

                                          #21
                                          If you are going to use those types of domains to send traffic to our sites then you are welcome to. Hell if you need help just let us know. Royal Cash is here to make money for us and our affiliates, the limitations we have in place are there to protect us legally and to protect our content


                                          spaz

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                                          • Agent 488
                                            Registered User
                                            • Feb 2006
                                            • 22511

                                            #22
                                            yup. a program takes over the sites, they have no idea how they ranked so they drop like a rock and get replaced by torrents, rapidshare and tubes.

                                            but the affiliate was somehow "stealing" sales ...

                                            Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                            I have several networks of cyber-squatted domains. NA is the second network to have a problem with it. The other was Lightspeed.

                                            Think of it this way...

                                            And we will use Lightspeed as an example...

                                            For just about every site he had I was #1. I made about $1,300 a month. Not a huge figure. Quite shocking actually. I was somewhere in his top 10 list of affiliates. I think #7. My sites were built similar in natural to a free site and converted very well. For shits and giggles lets look at it like this:

                                            My site: 1:30 to my site go to his site and then convert there at 1:70. I made a sweet ass sales pitch and most people stays for months and upgraded to the add $5 and get 10 sites or add $10 and get them all pass.

                                            He wanted his domain back. Said I couldn't do this in the TOS. Other affiliates complained. Basically because I was #1... for all of the sites in Google!

                                            So I give them back and remove all links. They instantly drop to page 20. Sites that overtake me look like complete crap or are TGP's or something of that nature.

                                            Now the top spot sends him traffic about 1:120 surfers and those convert with no sales pitch at 1:100 and buy the minimum pass more often.

                                            Math time... if 7,000 people a day looked for Jordan Capri I gave him 3 sales @ $39.95 per day.

                                            The guy that inherited the spot got 58 people to the site a day and converted them about 1 sales every 3 days for $29.95.

                                            With me as #1 - $119.85
                                            With him @ #1 - $22.46

                                            I am sure Steve made a lot more money. What he could have done is asked me to share in revenue via SEO. I could have pointed the domain 301 style to his and kept the links. Then he could have said, "Hey, how about I pay you $1000 a month to get me to #1 and keep me there for a 2 year period. Then we renegotiate the contract." That would have made him much more cash...

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                                            • mcfester
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2006
                                              • 207

                                              #23
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                                              • tonyparra
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2008
                                                • 4568

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Neighbor
                                                Actually a very good topic....Most of the sponsors have never put a dime into SEO on their own sites...their function is to provide content.

                                                If an affiliate wants to use your name in any legitimate marketing tactics, then they should have that right. Does it take away from your organic results....DOUBT IT if you never gave a rats ass before about organic SEO...

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                                                • tonyparra
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2008
                                                  • 4568

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                  I have several networks of cyber-squatted domains. NA is the second network to have a problem with it. The other was Lightspeed.

                                                  Think of it this way...

                                                  And we will use Lightspeed as an example...

                                                  For just about every site he had I was #1. I made about $1,300 a month. Not a huge figure. Quite shocking actually. I was somewhere in his top 10 list of affiliates. I think #7. My sites were built similar in natural to a free site and converted very well. For shits and giggles lets look at it like this:

                                                  My site: 1:30 to my site go to his site and then convert there at 1:70. I made a sweet ass sales pitch and most people stays for months and upgraded to the add $5 and get 10 sites or add $10 and get them all pass.

                                                  He wanted his domain back. Said I couldn't do this in the TOS. Other affiliates complained. Basically because I was #1... for all of the sites in Google!

                                                  So I give them back and remove all links. They instantly drop to page 20. Sites that overtake me look like complete crap or are TGP's or something of that nature.

                                                  Now the top spot sends him traffic about 1:120 surfers and those convert with no sales pitch at 1:100 and buy the minimum pass more often.

                                                  Math time... if 7,000 people a day looked for Jordan Capri I gave him 3 sales @ $39.95 per day.

                                                  The guy that inherited the spot got 58 people to the site a day and converted them about 1 sales every 3 days for $29.95.

                                                  With me as #1 - $119.85
                                                  With him @ #1 - $22.46

                                                  I am sure Steve made a lot more money. What he could have done is asked me to share in revenue via SEO. I could have pointed the domain 301 style to his and kept the links. Then he could have said, "Hey, how about I pay you $1000 a month to get me to #1 and keep me there for a 2 year period. Then we renegotiate the contract." That would have made him much more cash...

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                                                  • Fat Panda
                                                    Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                    • 13296

                                                    #26
                                                    fuck NA and other programs that pull this shit! GFY

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                                                    • faxxaff
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 2134

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                      I am sure Steve made a lot more money. What he could have done is asked me to share in revenue via SEO. I could have pointed the domain 301 style to his and kept the links. Then he could have said, "Hey, how about I pay you $1000 a month to get me to #1 and keep me there for a 2 year period. Then we renegotiate the contract." That would have made him much more cash...
                                                      Business is not about money.
                                                      Ego is far more important.
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                                                      • diesel
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                        • 1097

                                                        #28
                                                        We got hundreds variations of our site's names used by affiliates in their own domain names, promoting our sites. As our dear affiliate, you are welcome to triple this amount. Take my word here, you will never be chased.

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                                                          #29
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