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Old 03-21-2010, 11:29 AM  
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To me secularism just means the absence of religion. As far as separation of church and state is concerned, I'm with the constitution on that. It doesn't make me secularist. I'm proud that we have a Judeo-Christian state.
That is a redefinition of secularism and if you believe in separation of church and state you are indeed secularist. Secularism is far from Atheism. I am an Atheist.

Personally, I don't see how anyone could blindly follow any religion and contrary to popular belief, we are not a Judeo-Christian nation in the sense that the majority of the founding fathers were Deists and not Christians... that narrative is propaganda floated by the right wing evangelical movement.

Some of the founding fathers subscribed to the philosophy of John Locke which was a different Deist school of thought than that of Thomas Jefferson, for instance... but Christianity didn't even exist in it's current form at that time.

While the Bible contains alot of wisdom, I have a hard time understanding how anyone could subscribe to the "magic" of the stories within... and it has evolved into something completely different than it was in it's inception. We are talking about a religion derived from writings from the Bronze age and even before that. The concept of Science hadn't even been considered (even though math and engineering existed). Right now, you know enough about basic science and engineering to have been considered a wizard at the time the original Bible was written and for centuries after.

I see religion as a way for the aristocracy to control the masses... and there is centuries of proof to back me up. Religion has grown to be a crutch used by weak minded individuals to place the blame of their failures on something other than themselves. It is a means to fleece the population and is one of the biggest scams on the planet... especially in our American society where it enriches the con-men who are protected by the state to the extent that they don't even have to pay taxes on their income. Some even hold more power than the CEO of a multi-national corporation or a sitting Senator. I am not saying that religion is wholly evil... it does alot of good in the world... but it's definitely not in balance... because in our world history, it has done much more evil than good.
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