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Originally Posted by nation-x
John Boehner is a lying talking-point machine... and you can tell immediately by watching that video that it's a fake. Come on bro... you have to come with something better than that.
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How is the video a fake? And how is Boehner a lying talking point machine? He's no different than Pelosi or Obama. I was stating that this tactic can prove very effective.
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Seriously, both the GOP and The Dems are hypocrites... The GOP has used Reconciliation AND Deem and Pass... AND the dems bitched about it every time they did it but are now willing to use it themselves. Personally, I am willing to give the dems a pass on using it purely because I don't see any good reason why the GOP doesn't deserve to have their own tools used against them... it's a matter of balance. They want to be able to use those procedures but don't like it when they are used against them. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Now... as far as "An issue as big as this"... are you speaking in terms of politics or money? Because if we are talking money... you are wrong. Both reconciliation and deem and pass were used to pass the Bush tax cuts and those cost $2.4 trillion in lost revenue to date... plenty of money to pay for the Medicare prescription bill that was passed unfunded by the Republican Congress.
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No, I know about the tax cuts, I'm talking about it from a political standpoint.