Apple Mac Pro Quad Xeon with Win XP - anyone tried this?

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  • MaDalton
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    • Feb 2004
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    #1

    Apple Mac Pro Quad Xeon with Win XP - anyone tried this?

    i would be interested in the speed of the system. looks like decent hardware for that price, but some programs i need - like Cleaner XL - do not run on mac os
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  • Kard63
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    • Nov 2003
    • 8944

    #2
    I have not tried that, but I have a quadcore pc and it is the shit. I installed XP in 6 minutes.

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    • Jim_Gunn
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      • Feb 2003
      • 5702

      #3
      MaDalton, I still use Cleaner XL as my main Windows encoding app, previously with standard def digital video and now with hi-def footage from my Sony FX-1. I find that even with my Dell 9300 dual core Win XP pc that encoding wmv files from my hi-def footage edited with Premiere Pro and the (Cineform codec) AVIs takes a LONG time. Especially if I am adding a .png watermark to the files as they are output, usually in multiple bitrates. It took almost twelve hours to turn a 35 minute edited Cineform AVI video into a full size (1440 x 1080 pixel frame) wmv with watermark at a 4300 Kb bitrate.

      Cleanner XL is a powerful but clunky program, but I think I have learned to get the most out of it. I'd be happy to compare experiences with Cleaner XL if you like.
      Last edited by Jim_Gunn; 01-30-2007, 11:49 AM.

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      • MaDalton
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        • Feb 2004
        • 39861

        #4
        Originally posted by pornopete
        Parellels and Bootcamp should allow you to run windows on a mac.

        And yes those new macs look sweet.

        Also it seems cleaner is available for osx (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet...&siteID=123112)
        yeah, but it's the old 6.5 version that was on Windows replaced by Cleaner XL 1.5 already 2 years ago. they're not really busy doing new versions, but i haven't found a better program yet (and i tried a lot)
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        • MaDalton
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          • Feb 2004
          • 39861

          #5
          Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
          MaDalton, I still use Cleaner XL as my main Windows encoding app, previously with standard def digital video and now with hi-def footage from my Sony FX-1. I find that even with my Dell 9300 dual core Win XP pc that encoding wmv files from my hi-def footage edited with Premiere Pro and the (Cineform codec) AVIs takes a LONG time. Especially if I am adding a .png watermark to the files as they are output, usually in multiple bitrates. It took almost twelve hours to turn a 35 minute edited Cineform AVI video into a full size (1440 x 1080 pixel frame) wmv with watermark at a 4300 Kb bitrate.

          Cleanner XL is a powerful but clunky program, but I think I have learned to get the most out of it. I'd be happy to compare experiences with Cleaner XL if you like.
          wow - that's a long time...

          i'm currently running a batch job (since 4 or 5 days now) doing WMVs at 1800 kbit/s with a png watermark with MPEG files at 8000 kbit/s as source files - and it takes about 30-45 minutes for a 10-15 min. clip (inlcuding some filters like contrast and saturation)

          on an AMD 64 X2 4400 system with 4 gb ram.

          not too bad - i think - but i would happily spend some money to speed that up a little bit.

          i'm just interested if the Mac - running in dual boot with Win XP - is still that friggin fast like it is with Mac OSX
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          • Jim_Gunn
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            • Feb 2003
            • 5702

            #6
            MaDalton, same for me, I haven't found anything better for encoding yet. I haven't even upgraded to Cleaner XL 1.5 yet, mine is just Cleaner XL for Windows from a few years ago. Discreet is hardly supporting the app anyway other than that 1.5 version that they quietly released a while ago. But it does the trick for batching to multiple formats (wmv, quicktime, and real, or mpeg-1) and bitrates and adding those watermarks at the encoding process.

            There is a Windows app named Procoder(ver. 2.0 I think) that I have read some reviews of. I haven't tried it but I wonder if it is any faster for encoding on my same dual core pc.

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            • poe
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              • Mar 2004
              • 455

              #7
              Final Cut Pro comes with Compressor, which is a pretty damn good video encoder.
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              • chupacabra
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                • Sep 2002
                • 3626

                #8
                i have a MacPro w/ dual 2.66GHz xeons and 8GB FB memory, installed the Radeon X1600 into it myself after buying the machine at an apple store at launch. i dual boot it from OSX into WinXP all the time using Boot Camp and it works fine, fastest X86 machine i have ever owned. buy one, they rock..
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                • MaDalton
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                  • Feb 2004
                  • 39861

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
                  MaDalton, same for me, I haven't found anything better for encoding yet. I haven't even upgraded to Cleaner XL 1.5 yet, mine is just Cleaner XL for Windows from a few years ago. Discreet is hardly supporting the app anyway other than that 1.5 version that they quietly released a while ago. But it does the trick for batching to multiple formats (wmv, quicktime, and real, or mpeg-1) and bitrates and adding those watermarks at the encoding process.

                  There is a Windows app named Procoder(ver. 2.0 I think) that I have read some reviews of. I haven't tried it but I wonder if it is any faster for encoding on my same dual core pc.
                  i have tried Procoder - it made me nearly cry. i was 10 sec. away from disintegrating my PC with a big axe

                  don't buy it - never
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                  • drama
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                    • Jul 2004
                    • 847

                    #10
                    Cleaner XL doesnt use SMP on any of the QT generated formats. Procoder is where its at.

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                    • Jim_Gunn
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                      • Feb 2003
                      • 5702

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MaDalton
                      i have tried Procoder - it made me nearly cry. i was 10 sec. away from disintegrating my PC with a big axe

                      don't buy it - never
                      That's how I felt when I first got Cleaner XL, but I am used to it's clunky interface now.

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                      • pornguy
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                        • madawgz
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                          • Mar 2006
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by poe
                          Final Cut Pro comes with Compressor, which is a pretty damn good video encoder.
                          yeah it is
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                          • MaDalton
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                            • Feb 2004
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by poe
                            Final Cut Pro comes with Compressor, which is a pretty damn good video encoder.
                            does it do batch jobs and wmv encoding?
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