Woah!!!! That .XXX guy STUART LAWLEY is gonna be at XBIZ speaking on .XXX <DAMN!>

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  • woj
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    • Jul 2002
    • 47880

    #51
    50 .xxx speakers at xbiz...
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    • polish_aristocrat
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2002
      • 40377

      #52
      Several people claim to have 'insider information' lately suggesting that this time .xxx will be approved...

      I wonder if that information is not being shared with the main goal to discourage us from further protest.
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      • FightThisPatent
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2003
        • 4090

        #53
        Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
        Several people claim to have 'insider information' lately suggesting that this time .xxx will be approved...

        I wonder if that information is not being shared with the main goal to discourage us from further protest.


        Not likely.... but what difference does the information have anyways? The posting turnout to show a public demonstration to ICANN that .XXX is not wanted by the adult community has been nothing short of pathetic.

        The responses from last year were better, 600+ posts... still short of the claimed 1,000 adult webmaster emails writing to ICM that were presented to ICANN.

        Right now, there are 465 posts and i would guess that about half of that support .xxx

        Where were sponsors contacting their affiliates to get involved?

        Affiliates have the most to lose financially, since they hold a majority of the domain names when it comes to the defensive position of acquiring .XXX domain names.

        While .XXX is voluntary, it is reasonable to assume that people would grab the .XXX equivalent

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        • FightThisPatent
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2003
          • 4090

          #54
          What i would like to see is some questions to ask at the xbiz forum of ICM for those that won't be attending.

          Questions like "how are the adult industry players who sold out the biz?" won't be a likely one that gets an answer, but ones like:

          If i own some_porn_domain.jp and i want some_porn_domain.xxx and there is a some_porn_domain.com who gets it?


          would get an answer.


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          • FightThisPatent
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            • Aug 2003
            • 4090

            #55
            Post up your questions for ICM.

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            • polish_aristocrat
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2002
              • 40377

              #56
              FightThisPatent with all the respect to you (which is HUGE), are you really convinced by Mr Lawley who said that "the sponsored community is everyone who supports .xxx"

              if yes, then why wasn't this interpreed that way last year?

              from my understanding, the situation has not changed much since last year. Especially since regardless of the minor changes in the proposed agreement, this whole .xxx extension is still controversial.... It's not some harmless .mobi, or .travel...

              I wouldn't be surprised if ICANN rejected (or "voted down the current proposed agreement") .xxx again - the adult webmasters are still opposed to it, so are the Christian groups, and regarding Department of Commerce, they may have not voiced their opinions yet, but there must be some unofficiall talks too.

              Not saying how I know this, but it seems to me that ICANN is heaving discussions on the .xxx issue so the outcome is still not clear - they can either accept it, or reject it, or do the same as last year and "vote down" the current agreement which would mean that the thing gets seriously delayed again....
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              • FightThisPatent
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2003
                • 4090

                #57
                Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                FightThisPatent with all the respect to you (which is HUGE), are you really convinced by Mr Lawley who said that "the sponsored community is everyone who supports .xxx"

                if yes, then why wasn't this interpreed that way last year?
                http://www.icann.org/tlds/stld-apps-19mar04/xxx.htm

                Appropriateness of Sponsored TLD Community

                COMMUNITY TO BE SERVED

                As defined before, the .xxx TLD is intended primarily to serve the needs of the
                global responsible online adult-entertainment community (?Community?).

                The online adult-entertainment community is primarily defined as those
                individuals, businesses, and entities that provide sexually-oriented
                information, services, or products intended for consenting adults or for the
                community itself. The terms "adult-entertainment" and "sexually-oriented" are
                intended to be understood broadly for a global medium, and are not to be
                construed as legal or regulatory categories. Rather, the referenced Community
                consists generally of websites that convey sexually-oriented information and
                for which a system of self-identification would be beneficial.



                I think its the cleverness of the crafting of the definition.

                Look at the words in red... i think that's where the intepretaiton is gotten, that those that want "self labelling" and that are "responsible" are therefore the sponsored community.

                I read the thing as "online adult-entertainment community" as being the definition of the community.


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                • Stephen
                  Consigliere
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 1771

                  #58
                  Originally posted by FightThisPatent
                  I think its the cleverness of the crafting of the definition.

                  Look at the words in red... i think that's where the intepretaiton is gotten, that those that want "self labelling" and that are "responsible" are therefore the sponsored community.
                  Ya know, not to stir the pot, but you're hitting the target closer than you think: this whole .xxx move (which I've been advised is 'a done deal' and considering some of the players involved, I believe that .xxx will eventually become a reality) is simply one move in the inevitable process of the haves jettisoning the have nots in hopes of ensuring their ongoing survival.

                  The online adult industry is growing up and this process is just 'teen angst'

                  As a side note, I'm one of the guys that sent in a check to 'pre-register' the .sex version of my dot-coms back in 2000 or so; and if I'm not mistaken, Mr. Lawley was behind that effort. I'll be sure to ask him about it, and request a refund...

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                  • tony299
                    lurker
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 57021

                    #59
                    This isnt the industry growing up , this is a cash grab that will fuck us so hard you cant imagine. Stephen you speak like someone for this ,even though you post against it. What is it ?

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                    • tony299
                      lurker
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 57021

                      #60
                      also why dont the people behind it come out and say it instead of hiding?If they are so right that shouldnt a be a problem.

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                      • polish_aristocrat
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 40377

                        #61
                        Originally posted by tony404
                        also why dont the people behind it come out and say it instead of hiding?If they are so right that shouldnt a be a problem.
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                        • Zester
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 5344

                          #62
                          why aren't important things like this a sticky ?
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                          • seeric
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                            • Aug 2004
                            • 41917

                            #63
                            bumpslyyyyyyyyy

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                            • CyberHustler
                              Masterbaiter
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 28787

                              #64
                              This is a see my sig bump...
                              “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                              • seeric
                                ..........
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 41917

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Cyber-Hu$tler
                                This is a see my sig bump...
                                i will see your sig and raise you one.

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                                • polish_aristocrat
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jul 2002
                                  • 40377

                                  #66
                                  2 days left?

                                  see this thread as well please

                                  http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=703172
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                                  • Nikki_Licks
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2005
                                    • 6323

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by FightThisPatent
                                    Holy fuktards.
                                    You may think that xbiz supports .xxx, but there is pen to paper documentation of adult companies who gave support to .XXX a few years back.
                                    Why has this ?secret list? not been public information? If this was a list from last year then it would be null a void because it was shot down last time, also they would need to have new statements submitted again.
                                    So this brings up the question where the new ?Secret List? is that contains the names of the companies listed on it. Isn't this public record? If it is public record, then we should be able to view it.
                                    If they are hiding the list under some ?Special Deal? secret, then wouldn't that be a violation of ICANN's rules?
                                    I am sure there will be an investigation into this matter and everyone who has sent in a letter in opposition should be pushing forward and demand a full blown investigation from the government into ICANN?s and ICM?s nefarious ways!!!

                                    If they are so proud of selling everyone out, then they should have no problem admitting they are.
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                                    • s9ann0
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2001
                                      • 4873

                                      #68
                                      I can't make the 8th someone should set fire to him though

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                                      • seeric
                                        ..........
                                        • Aug 2004
                                        • 41917

                                        #69
                                        No To .xxx

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                                        • djroof
                                          JuicyDevils.gr Owner
                                          • Jan 2004
                                          • 25508

                                          #70
                                          Hmmmm.... would be interesting...

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                                          • polish_aristocrat
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jul 2002
                                            • 40377

                                            #71
                                            just a few hours left, right?
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                                            • polish_aristocrat
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 40377

                                              #72
                                              hm few days are gone and noone talks about .xxx anymore

                                              any more info about the seminar, other that what could have been read in the articles?

                                              A1r3k? FightThisPatent perhaps?
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