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  • Brujah
    Beer Money Baron
    • Jan 2001
    • 22157

    #1

    Let's always remember who really fixed the economy



    http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/24/news...ion=2008092422

    Good evening. This is an extraordinary period for America's economy.

    Over the past few weeks, many Americans have felt anxiety about their finances and their future. I understand their worry and their frustration.

    ...

    With the situation becoming more precarious by the day, I faced a choice, to step in with dramatic government action or to stand back and allow the irresponsible actions of some to undermine the financial security of all.

    I'm a strong believer in free enterprise, so my natural instinct is to oppose government intervention. I believe companies that make bad decisions should be allowed to go out of business.

    Under normal circumstances, I would have followed this course. But these are not normal circumstances. The market is not functioning properly. There has been a widespread loss of confidence, and major sectors of America's financial system are at risk of shutting down.

    The government's top economic experts warn that, without immediate action by Congress, America could slip into a financial panic and a distressing scenario would unfold.

    More banks could fail, including some in your community. The stock market would drop even more, which would reduce the value of your retirement account. The value of your home could plummet. Foreclosures would rise dramatically.

    And if you own a business or a farm, you would find it harder and more expensive to get credit. More businesses would close their doors, and millions of Americans could lose their jobs.

    Even if you have good credit history, it would be more difficult for you to get the loans you need to buy a car or send your children to college. And, ultimately, our country could experience a long and painful recession.

    Fellow citizens, we must not let this happen. I appreciate the work of leaders from both parties in both houses of Congress to address this problem and to make improvements to the proposal my administration sent to them.


    ...

    But given the situation we are facing, not passing a bill now would cost these Americans much more later.

    ...

    In close consultation with Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, and SEC Chairman Chris Cox, I announced a plan on Friday.

    First, the plan is big enough to solve a serious problem. Under our proposal, the federal government would put up to $700 billion taxpayer dollars on the line to purchase troubled assets that are clogging the financial system.

    ...

    Thank you for listening. May God bless you.
  • Barefootsies
    Choice is an Illusion
    • Feb 2005
    • 42635

    #2
    Should You Email Your Members?

    Link1 | Link2 | Link3

    Enough Said.

    "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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    • CaptainHowdy
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Dec 2004
      • 94738

      #3

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      • Brujah
        Beer Money Baron
        • Jan 2001
        • 22157

        #4
        Democrats keep trying to take credit for Bush's plan.

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        • TheDoc
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jul 2001
          • 13827

          #5
          Damn straight! Getting Bush out of office did more good than anything.
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          • TheDoc
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2001
            • 13827

            #6
            Originally posted by Brujah
            Democrats keep trying to take credit for Bush's plan.
            Maybe so - they did vote on it and help draft it up... but what's a bit ironic is the Republicans 'blamed' Obama for this bailout. Saying he pushed for it, he was the President when it went into action, it's Obama's mess - even though Bushed signed it in.

            How quick the tables turn when it goes from screwing our kids over to actually helping the country.
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            • Brujah
              Beer Money Baron
              • Jan 2001
              • 22157

              #7
              Those have to be fake Republicans then. Why would they give Obama credit for what Bush did? That doesn't make sense.

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              • _Richard_
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Oct 2006
                • 30991

                #8
                Originally posted by TheDoc
                Maybe so - they did vote on it and help draft it up... but what's a bit ironic is the Republicans 'blamed' Obama for this bailout. Saying he pushed for it, he was the President when it went into action, it's Obama's mess - even though Bushed signed it in.

                How quick the tables turn when it goes from screwing our kids over to actually helping the country.
                i think everyone was more upset about money going into infrastructure than disappearing into bank coffers

                but i am just a canadian

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                • Nikki_Licks
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2005
                  • 6323

                  #9
                  A true disgrace to the USA! All we did was trade on idiot for another......
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                  • Brujah
                    Beer Money Baron
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 22157

                    #10
                    Vendzilla, sperbonzo, daddyhalbucks, stickyfingerz, no comment?

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                    • The Demon
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 7336

                      #11
                      That's funny. Getting Bush out of office brought in a bigger idiot who's destroying our economy on levels Bush could only dream of. And I love TheDoc's argument that "Bush signed off on the bailouts." Who instituted them, moron? I wonder why he's even allowed to post in argumentative threads.
                      Greed is Good

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                      • Brujah
                        Beer Money Baron
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 22157

                        #12
                        Didn't you watch this speech or read the words Demon? How can you pretend Bush didn't push for this?

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                        • Brujah
                          Beer Money Baron
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 22157

                          #13
                          This part was pretty smart, of the bill Bush signed into law:

                          Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.
                          No oversight. No court review.

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                          • The Demon
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 7336

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Brujah
                            Didn't you watch this speech or read the words Demon? How can you pretend Bush didn't push for this?
                            Wait, who said I pretended Bush didn't push for this? When have I ever supported Bush's economic policies?
                            Greed is Good

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                            • Tom_PM
                              Porn Meister
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 16443

                              #15
                              "fixed"?

                              You betcha'
                              43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                              • Brujah
                                Beer Money Baron
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 22157

                                #16
                                Originally posted by The Demon
                                Wait, who said I pretended Bush didn't push for this? When have I ever supported Bush's economic policies?
                                I misread your post. I wondered who you were talking about.

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                                • The Demon
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 7336

                                  #17
                                  As a republican and fiscal conservative, I was always against most of Bush's economic policies and I didn't think it could get any worse. Then we elected Obama and it got worse ten-fold.
                                  Greed is Good

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                                  • marketsmart
                                    HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                    • Dec 2004
                                    • 20419

                                    #18
                                    again, i have to point out, when are you people going to wake up and stop pointing fingers at one person.. its the whole govt thats fucked up and more corrupt then ever..

                                    this is just what both sides want, people busy spending time blaming the other side..

                                    what we should be doing is getting people on the same team to kick all of these corrupt long standing congress members out of office..



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                                    • Brujah
                                      Beer Money Baron
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 22157

                                      #19
                                      ok marketsmart, let's do it. who first?

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                                      • Tom_PM
                                        Porn Meister
                                        • Feb 2005
                                        • 16443

                                        #20
                                        Vote against all incumbents, in all elections, always, everyone.

                                        Aside from that you have to try to get one of them to impose term limits, and they tend to not want to fire themselves.. so ...

                                        Otherwise they are too entrenched and there isn't a lever long enough to pry them loose from each other. Lobbyists & "representatives".. totally bedded down together. Longer they are there, the more comfortable they are doing anything for any reason. Just keep the cash flowing.
                                        43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                        • Brujah
                                          Beer Money Baron
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 22157

                                          #21
                                          My incumbent rocks, it's your incumbent that sucks.

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                                          • Tom_PM
                                            Porn Meister
                                            • Feb 2005
                                            • 16443

                                            #22
                                            Nope, we've got to vote against all incumbents. Good today, corrupt tomorrow. It's the only way. I dont care if they are freshmen or veterans (there should NEVER be these idiotic lifelong appointments), when they come up for a vote, we should turn them over for at least a few cycles.
                                            43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                            • Nikki_Licks
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2005
                                              • 6323

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by marketsmart
                                              again, i have to point out, when are you people going to wake up and stop pointing fingers at one person.. its the whole govt thats fucked up and more corrupt then ever..

                                              this is just what both sides want, people busy spending time blaming the other side..

                                              what we should be doing is getting people on the same team to kick all of these corrupt long standing congress members out of office..



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                                              • GregE
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2004
                                                • 2704

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                Vote against all incumbents, in all elections, always, everyone.
                                                When the economy gets good again (which it ain't), I might be cool with reelecting some of them.
                                                Last edited by GregE; 03-10-2010, 10:26 AM.

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                                                • epitome
                                                  So Fucking Lame
                                                  • Jun 2009
                                                  • 12156

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                  Vote against all incumbents, in all elections, always, everyone.

                                                  Aside from that you have to try to get one of them to impose term limits, and they tend to not want to fire themselves.. so ...
                                                  Amen! Hopefully, more and more Americans are waking up to this concept.

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                                                  • Tom_PM
                                                    Porn Meister
                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                    • 16443

                                                    #26
                                                    I just feel that corruption seeks out stagnant conditions.

                                                    anyway.. I just cant think of another way to actually make a change. And I like some of them pretty well too.
                                                    43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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