50 million dollar tuition
Did the math last night - and I figured out that it's going to cost me over 400K ...
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Posted by KK elsewhere ... great points!!!
Public school is not the same any more. I went to public school, and I always thought that would be the way to go with my kid. Problem is, you've now got nearly 40 kids shoved into a classroom designed to hold 20. You've got one teacher -- especially when they get out of the really beginner grades -- trying to teach nearly 40 kids.
Then you've got to manage the walking pharmacopia of all the different meds, issues, and crap going on with all these kids.
One of my good friends is a teacher and he's getting out of it as fast as he can. After they convicted the teacher for "showing her students porn" when she had complained repeatedly that there was something wrong with the computer in her classroom (they wouldnt let her turn the computer off or unplug the network cable, against the rules) and no one would fix it, he's just done.
No one wants to teach any more in public school that is qualified to teach. The system really is broken.Do you have kids? Have you been inside the average public school classroom lately? Do you know any teachers?
Getting your children a good education is not pampering them. It's creating responsible and educated adults, something that is not happening in this country right now in public schools. The lack of funding, overcrowding in schools, and dearth of qualified teachers who truly want to be there makes for a very different education system than we had even ten years ago.Comment
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Most expensive private school in here cost abour $4/year, and education in public schools is still good[email protected]
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I think Harvard is over $40,000/year now with room and board .. or very close.Harvard is about 20kish a year from what I heard recently, I don't think Notre Dame is up there yet...those are the only 2 good HS's that I know the rough pricing of offhand.
As for the grade school, are they really stacking up the same paper that the HS's are these days? ouch!
Harvard is giving free tuition to families making under $60,000/year though
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That's pretty insane... hopefully it's worth it though.
I guess it depends a lot on your area, public and private schools here are pretty much the same except for the uniforms. I know a lot of people that went to private schools and they're no better adjusted or educated than the rest of us. Just burned a bigger hole in their parents pockets.
I imagine the US is a lot different because of the rift between upper and lower income families that causes the poor kids to get lower quality medical care and a lower quality education, which is sad.Comment
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Dude...private schools are completely worth it as long as they're not religious schools. Public schools in Florida are nothing but gladiator academies. After my 15th or 20th suspension and then 1st expulsion, my parents thought it was a good idea to put me in a Seventh Day Adventist private school. HA! That was like throwing a piranha in the goldfish tank and it did nothing but get worse the harder they tried to "save" me.
If you can raise your kids in a private school environment and give them that outlook on the world, good for you and them...do it.Comment
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Not relegious and no uniforms.Dude...private schools are completely worth it as long as they're not religious schools. Public schools in Florida are nothing but gladiator academies. After my 15th or 20th suspension and then 1st expulsion, my parents thought it was a good idea to put me in a Seventh Day Adventist private school. HA! That was like throwing a piranha in the goldfish tank and it did nothing but get worse the harder they tried to "save" me.
If you can raise your kids in a private school environment and give them that outlook on the world, good for you and them...do it.
LOL about your description of you at the Seventh Day Adventist private school
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just think about this
did you need fancy private schools to become a success yourself?
will giving them everything they could want make them a successful person?
would you have had the same level of success if you didn't have to strugle?you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..Comment
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My kids are not spoiled. They don't get everything they could want. This is not a "fancy private school".
My kids don't watch TV, play computer games or wear designer clothes. They are not babysat by barney, square bob and dora the explorer.
Yes, i'm somewhat successful but I don't want my kids to go through all the experiences I have. I want them to have different motivation.
I became successful IN SPITE OF my up bringing.
I don't want my son to see his best friend shot in the head - and to have that experience change HIS life so he can become a "productive citizen" as opposed to a hoodlum.
Just trying to find that middle ground
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Kudos.
Private school is still something I'm strongly considering for my son. I was home schooled until the 5th grade, when I went into private school. I went to one year of high school in private school, then went to a public high school in a (very) rich suburb. After that, I went to high school in an innner city school for a year, then dropped out.
While I thought it sucked at the time, I wouldn't trade the experience of being in all those environments for the world. My best times in life were 7th and 8th grade in the private school, simply because it was a structured environment that allowed you to excel in what you were good at, while not babysitting you so much. Definitely good times to look back on, and has a large part to do with the natural interest in learning I picked up (had it before that, but they didn't squash it like some public school environments do).
I didn't go to the "rich" private schools - yes, obviously some folks were pretty well off, but in general there was less income there than in the rich suburbs public school.
In general?
1. Private school was more or less on par with the "advanced" classes in the suburban public school. Advanced classes in the private school were just a bit harder, but truly it was damned near on par educational wise. Social wise, the environments were quite a bit different though. I would say all in all the public school would set you up for life better socially if you have strong parental influence and involvement, but you could easily fall into some "bad crowds" and habits if not. The private school wasn't terrible socially, and a bit more safeguarded.
2. The inner city public schools were a joke. Period. 11th grade 'advanced' classes there were on par with crap we were learning in 7th and 8th grade private school. No one was there to learn, teachers couldn't do shit, etc. Just in general a terrible environment. I feel REAL bad for inner city school teachers in general - I saw some trying their hearts out, but simply were not given any tools to succeed. The few kids there actually wanting to learn quickly learn not to, as it will simply end up in constant ridicule. My son will NEVER be going to schools like that, it truly sickened me and let to me dropping out to simply take the GED test as I absolutely believe I was getting stupider every minute I stayed in that environment.
That said, the GED test is an absolute joke as well. I could have trivially passed it in 8th grade, without even breaking a sweat. I'm also not "smart", anyone in my class could have aced it as well.
given my experiences... I feel that the quality of education is far more dependent on the level and numbers of parents involved in the school, than if the school is actually private or public. If the majority of kids going to the school are motivated at home to learn and do well, then the teachers will actually be able to step up and do their jobs. Truly there are some amazing educators in this country, but most have been simply relegated to glorified babysitters.
Private school in my mind more or less removes the roll of the dice for how good a school is. It definitely is appealing as a parent, I can tell you that.
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Damn, do you call the networks when you see them running the same commercials or when TV shows in syndication on 4 different channels?
I post on 2 boards regularly.
Some threads I post on both boards.
Some answers too when they are relevent.
Some shit is for fun, some to vent, some for biz.
Is this really such a problem for you that it was necessary to point out - or ya just bored???
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Good post, man - I ended up getting my GED as wellKudos.
Private school is still something I'm strongly considering for my son. I was home schooled until the 5th grade, when I went into private school. I went to one year of high school in private school, then went to a public high school in a (very) rich suburb. After that, I went to high school in an innner city school for a year, then dropped out.
While I thought it sucked at the time, I wouldn't trade the experience of being in all those environments for the world. My best times in life were 7th and 8th grade in the private school, simply because it was a structured environment that allowed you to excel in what you were good at, while not babysitting you so much. Definitely good times to look back on, and has a large part to do with the natural interest in learning I picked up (had it before that, but they didn't squash it like some public school environments do).
I didn't go to the "rich" private schools - yes, obviously some folks were pretty well off, but in general there was less income there than in the rich suburbs public school.
In general?
1. Private school was more or less on par with the "advanced" classes in the suburban public school. Advanced classes in the private school were just a bit harder, but truly it was damned near on par educational wise. Social wise, the environments were quite a bit different though. I would say all in all the public school would set you up for life better socially if you have strong parental influence and involvement, but you could easily fall into some "bad crowds" and habits if not. The private school wasn't terrible socially, and a bit more safeguarded.
2. The inner city public schools were a joke. Period. 11th grade 'advanced' classes there were on par with crap we were learning in 7th and 8th grade private school. No one was there to learn, teachers couldn't do shit, etc. Just in general a terrible environment. I feel REAL bad for inner city school teachers in general - I saw some trying their hearts out, but simply were not given any tools to succeed. The few kids there actually wanting to learn quickly learn not to, as it will simply end up in constant ridicule. My son will NEVER be going to schools like that, it truly sickened me and let to me dropping out to simply take the GED test as I absolutely believe I was getting stupider every minute I stayed in that environment.
That said, the GED test is an absolute joke as well. I could have trivially passed it in 8th grade, without even breaking a sweat. I'm also not "smart", anyone in my class could have aced it as well.
given my experiences... I feel that the quality of education is far more dependent on the level and numbers of parents involved in the school, than if the school is actually private or public. If the majority of kids going to the school are motivated at home to learn and do well, then the teachers will actually be able to step up and do their jobs. Truly there are some amazing educators in this country, but most have been simply relegated to glorified babysitters.
Private school in my mind more or less removes the roll of the dice for how good a school is. It definitely is appealing as a parent, I can tell you that.
-Phil
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It really all depends on where you live. I moved to a good public school district when my son was in middle school. His public HS was named one of the top 5 schools in the US when he was there and many pro ball players and CEOs of huge companies had their kids there when they certainly had the money to send their kids to private schools. He received an INCREDIBLE education and mostly took AP classes. In fact, since it was a public school, they paid for college classes if they couldn't offer you what you'd take next. For instance, he had a girlfriend who took senior AP classes her junior year so they paid for her to take college classes her senior year in those subjects.
When I was growing up I went to private schools from 5th grade until I moved in with my Dad my senior year of HS - all that money gone to waste when I graduated from a public school, lol. But again, it was in a great area and everyone I graduated with went to college and most of them are a lot more successful than I'll ever be with my mostly private school education
You do what YOU think is best for your kids - that's what parents do!Comment
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