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  • DeadFidel
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    • Jul 2003
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    Furor Over 12-Year-Old Fanning's Rape Scene

    We are all going to die very soon.

    Dakota Fanning will turn 13 next month, and she has a short answer for anyone who questions her decision to play a 1950s girl who gyrates in her underwear, wakes up as her naked father climbs into her bed, demands that a prepubescent boy expose himself to her in exchange for a kiss and, finally, is raped by a teenager who lures her with tickets to an Elvis concert:

    http://movies.aol.com/news/articles/...22101209990001

    Watch the youtube clip.

    SHE IS 12!!
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    • xclusive
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      the director and the parents should be in jail for this.

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        • TimBlaze
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          i was just gonna say "pft" but now that i think about it it is kinda fucked
          Roll that shit, light that shit,

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            • split_joel
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              Originally posted by xclusive
              the director and the parents should be in jail for this.
              are you kidding me? more movies like this should be done to make the public aware of how much of a problem this is. Oh lets cry about the 12 yr old girl who is making a movie about a fake rape on set but lets ignore the fact that 12 yr old girls are raped every day. I fully support this movie and what they are doing.
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                • needlive
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                  Yup! There is nothing wrong with raising awareness in the public. We dont talk about it because its taboo, and we we dont do shit if our neighbour is raping someone because it is taboo OR we just calm ourselves: "Ah they must be roleplaying, now they are trying the rape scene". Ignorance is what should be considered as bad!
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                    • 12clicks
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by split_joel
                      are you kidding me? more movies like this should be done to make the public aware of how much of a problem this is. Oh lets cry about the 12 yr old girl who is making a movie about a fake rape on set but lets ignore the fact that 12 yr old girls are raped every day. I fully support this movie and what they are doing.
                      who's ignoring it?
                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                        • 12clicks
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by needlive
                          Yup! There is nothing wrong with raising awareness in the public. We dont talk about it because its taboo, and we we dont do shit if our neighbour is raping someone because it is taboo OR we just calm ourselves: "Ah they must be roleplaying, now they are trying the rape scene". Ignorance is what should be considered as bad!
                          perhaps in your third world country, but not in the civilized world.
                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                            • DeadFidel
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by split_joel
                              are you kidding me? more movies like this should be done to make the public aware of how much of a problem this is. Oh lets cry about the 12 yr old girl who is making a movie about a fake rape on set but lets ignore the fact that 12 yr old girls are raped every day. I fully support this movie and what they are doing.
                              I understand and truly appriciate your thought proccess.

                              But you are not getting the point. It's not about the script, it's about a parent letting a 12yo play the part.

                              ?The plain cold fact is this is illegal, the statutes are what they are, and Hollywood chose to ignore it. If they?d made the character 15, and hired a 19-year-old, they wouldn?t have heard a peep out of me.?

                              If you make a documentary to promote anti-child abuse is one thing but if you make a multi-million dollar film to profit is another; creating a "Hollywood buzz".

                              PS: The film has nothing to do with the welfare of a child, it was just written in for sales and effect.

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                                • split_joel
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by DeadFidel
                                  I understand and truly appriciate your thought proccess.

                                  But you are not getting the point. It's not about the script, it's about a parent letting a 12yo play the part.

                                  “The plain cold fact is this is illegal, the statutes are what they are, and Hollywood chose to ignore it. If they’d made the character 15, and hired a 19-year-old, they wouldn’t have heard a peep out of me.”

                                  If you make a documentary to promote anti-child abuse is one thing but if you make a multi-million dollar film to profit is another; creating a "Hollywood buzz".

                                  PS: The film has nothing to do with the welfare of a child, it was just written in for sales and effect.
                                  good point but regardless in creating the scene is alot different then how it will look in the movies. she is completly safe and all that bs but i also agree her being 12 isnt the best idea but i dont think any harm will come from this movie, im hoping it will make people see this happends everyday and yes even in civlized countries
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                                    • needlive
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                                      #10
                                      I see 12clicks is one of those "we live in paradise, they live in shit" people
                                      I understand you now Fidel, and I have to agree

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                                        • Paul Markham
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                                          • Jun 2001
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                          perhaps in your third world country, but not in the civilized world.
                                          Exactly the reason the film should be shown and the subject discussed. Because it does happen in the US and it is brushed under the carpet.

                                          Not every time but often enough.

                                          Whether they need to film the actual scene is debatable. But as they are looking to put bums on seats it's more profitable to film the rape scene than not film it. A reflection on the biggest markets the film is aimed at, what country would that be 12clicks?



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                                            • NTM
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                                              #12
                                              Sounds hot.

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                                                • needlive
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                                                  You see 12clicks, as long as the "civilized" countries( I dont have to name a few do I?) are everywhere in the world playing TERRORCOP with the word "terror" meaning: civilized people terrorising (murdering ) innocent folk caught in the crossfire, the word "civilized" is like hot water turning cold as soon as it exits its boiler... Good luck brushing this "civilized" matter under your carpet.

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                                                    • Violetta
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                                                      damn...
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                                                        • fuzzylogic
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by needlive
                                                          I see 12clicks is one of those "we live in paradise, they live in shit" people
                                                          I understand you now Fidel, and I have to agree
                                                          true true!
                                                          he is also a republican
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                                                            • Turf
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                                                              #16
                                                              looking forward to seeing that movie... always been a fan of fannings work...
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                                                                • Klen
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  WIll see how people will react

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                                                                    • 12clicks
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by needlive
                                                                      I see 12clicks is one of those "we live in paradise, they live in shit" people
                                                                      I happen to live in paradise.
                                                                      you come here speaking for yourself and your friends with the "we" below

                                                                      Originally posted by needlive
                                                                      and we we dont do shit if our neighbour is raping someone because it is taboo OR we just calm ourselves: "Ah they must be roleplaying, now they are trying the rape scene". Ignorance is what should be considered as bad!
                                                                      if thats your sad reality, so be it. it certainly isn't mine.
                                                                      now run along and "calm yourself"
                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                        • 12clicks
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                          Exactly the reason the film should be shown and the subject discussed. Because it does happen in the US and it is brushed under the carpet.

                                                                          Not every time but often enough.

                                                                          Whether they need to film the actual scene is debatable. But as they are looking to put bums on seats it's more profitable to film the rape scene than not film it. A reflection on the biggest markets the film is aimed at, what country would that be 12clicks?
                                                                          I['m sure it will be a smash hit in the czech republic. it won't do well here.
                                                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                            • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                                              The purpose of anti-CP laws and anti child abuse laws is to prevent actual cases, not stifle free speech.

                                                                              I welcome this movie. It gets dialogue going. It may actually prevent child abuse.

                                                                              Movies do not equal reality. If they did, we'd ban movies that show murder and other distasteful things.
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                                                                                • Simon IA Cash
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                                                                                  I understand the point about wanting the film made to "raise awareness", but that's what documentaries are for. You don't need to fictionalize something to explain it, especially not when it involves a 12-year-old pretending to get raped. That's not something someone of that age should deal with in any setting, staged or otherwise.

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                                                                                    • Tom_PM
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Jody Foster and Brooke Shields had similar roles as children I believe.
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                                                                                        • Holly
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                                          Jody Foster and Brooke Shields had similar roles as children I believe.
                                                                                          "Bastard Out of Carolina" was pretty graphic, too. Can't remember the little girl's name- Jenna something- but she was raped a few times and one scene was really violent. He chased her down and hit her, with her kicking and screaming the whole time he was raping her. I think she was only 10.


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                                                                                            • Dollarmansteve
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                                                                                              ya this is terrible, movies should only include raping of ADULTS. Also, only ADULTS should be murdered, decapitated, disemboweled, dismembered, etc on film. Every film should have a "no children were harmed in the filming of this movie" disclaimer.
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                                                                                                • Got Porn?
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                                                                                                  While it’s a good idea to educate people about this subject it seems they are sexually exploiting a 12 year-old for profit.
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                                                                                                    • NTM
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      The director and writer of the movie is female. Horrible double standard. If it was a guy who came with this idea, he would never work in Hollywood again.

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                                                                                                        • pornguy
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by DeadFidel
                                                                                                          I understand and truly appriciate your thought proccess.

                                                                                                          But you are not getting the point. It's not about the script, it's about a parent letting a 12yo play the part.

                                                                                                          ?The plain cold fact is this is illegal, the statutes are what they are, and Hollywood chose to ignore it. If they?d made the character 15, and hired a 19-year-old, they wouldn?t have heard a peep out of me.?

                                                                                                          If you make a documentary to promote anti-child abuse is one thing but if you make a multi-million dollar film to profit is another; creating a "Hollywood buzz".

                                                                                                          PS: The film has nothing to do with the welfare of a child, it was just written in for sales and effect.


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                                                                                                            • JD
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              10 bucks says pedos will use this flick as wanking material for years to come...

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                                                                                                                • interracialtoons
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                                                                                                                  Well, all the furor makes people want to see the scene to judge for themselves.

                                                                                                                  So I figure the pedos out there probably want to make there own judgments too.

                                                                                                                  Your furor is stirring up the pedos.


                                                                                                                  Listening to the actress talk convinced me that she is advanced and probably one of the few girls with the maturity to act such a scene. I think the producers weighed this factor before shooting the scene because they could have easily "soft soaped" it without hurting the movie.
                                                                                                                  Done.

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                                                                                                                    • interracialtoons
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                                                                                                                      What about The Exorcist?
                                                                                                                      Done.

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                                                                                                                        • Webby
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                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DeadFidel
                                                                                                                          We are all going to die very soon.

                                                                                                                          Dakota Fanning will turn 13 next month, and she has a short answer for anyone who questions her decision to play a 1950s girl who gyrates in her underwear ..............
                                                                                                                          There are no lengths to which Fox News will attempt to dramatise two insects copulating if it serves their higher "values". This is further nonsense over crass society problems in the US and has little to do with a 12 year old starring in a movie - more under-the-carpet hypocrisy.

                                                                                                                          Neither Fox or anyone other than the film makers/cast have any clue as to the shooting conditions or have even seen the movie. One thing that is 100% certain, what ends up on screen has went thru and "constructive" editing process and is not going to be exactly the way it was shot in reality. The production unit and the parents of Dakota are better judges of child welfare than Fox News or any journalist attempting to create a story to earn a dime.

                                                                                                                          Sure, there are issues - and valid ones concerning children. Is there also an issue about violent offenses against children not being a subject of "awareness" while "Dads" and other relatives rape kids in Michigan, Kentucky, New York, California?? There are no geographical or class boundaries to child offenses.

                                                                                                                          The facts of life are that children are assaulted every day - most often by family members, and if getting "twitchy" about uncovering the subject matter causing discomfort - welcome to reality and the society we live in. Any attempts at connecting this to CP are weak at best - especially coming from news media in a nation which purveys more CP than all other nations combined.

                                                                                                                          Reminds me of a chat with another prominent raving defender of public morals "what people should be allowed to watch" on screens... after listening to a diatribe of bullshit about a specific movie (smelt something was wrong).. had to ask her if she had actually seen the movie she was commenting on - "No, it's not necessary..." End of story.
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                                                                                                                            • REßEL
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                                                                                                                              Dakota Fanning is no ordinary child actress. She's an old soul, a genius, and has a maturity you don't see in many adults. She's out-acted every adult she's ever appeared with. And she's the only child actress I'd trust with such a role.

                                                                                                                              I'm actually looking forward to seeing how she handles it. And applaud her parents for allowing her to portray something that does happen daily to many 12 year olds across the world.
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                                                                                                                                • HushMoney
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DeadFidel

                                                                                                                                  ?The plain cold fact is this is illegal, the statutes are what they are, and Hollywood chose to ignore it. If they?d made the character 15, and hired a 19-year-old, they wouldn?t have heard a peep out of me.?
                                                                                                                                  Why didn't you continue on to the next paragraph?

                                                                                                                                  But the Wilmington district attorney, who was shown a cut of the movie, said no crime was committed, and the film?s writer and director, Deborah Kampmeier, said Ms. Fanning was treated more than appropriately: Though her character, Lewellen, disrobes under duress, for example, she is not seen nude, and Ms. Fanning was always clothed during the production.

                                                                                                                                  I love when people convieniently leave out things that won't further their arguement.
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                                                                                                                                    • HomeFry
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      If I'm not mistaken, this movie was based on real events. You seem to be more upset that the movie was made, than the fact that it happened. Do you truly believe that this sort of thing DOESN'T happen? Or do you believe that it just shouldn't be in the public eye "Out of sight, out of mind" eh? I think the original acts are the real problem here. As mentioned above, they were tried and found to have committed no crime.

                                                                                                                                      If you believe that the actress in this film was wronged by the scene addressed in the media... Why didn't you start a thread when you saw Ed Norton curb stomp that guy in American History X, or why didn't you start a topic about the numerous films about Hitler and his concentration camps? Oh, and how about starting a thread about Sharon Tate?

                                                                                                                                      Come on man, number 1, it's a movie about REAL events. Number 2, just because you or I or anyone else doesn't want this sort of thing to happen, doesn't make it go away. People have to stop trying to ignore reality, this sort of thing happens daily all over the world. If you stepped outside of your bubble once in a while, you would know this and you'll probably find many other travesties that will give you endless amounts of threads to start.

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                                                                                                                                        • 12clicks
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          why do people want to blame fox news? I mean, its ok to just come out and say you want to see a movie that included child rape. No need to pretend every other news biz isn't covering it.
                                                                                                                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                                                            • 4Man
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                                                                                                                                              Damn......i need to go!!!

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                                                                                                                                                • noooze
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                                                                                                                                                  personally i dont mind.

                                                                                                                                                  its acting and im pretty sure that the scene it self isnt a problem for miss Fanning. I mean - first of all, its an organized thingy, and no old guys feeling up a little girl in a dark back room

                                                                                                                                                  allso - why is it fucked up ? becourse we hate the idea ? so fucking what ?

                                                                                                                                                  it happens, we shouldt make film about it, talk about it and not make it into a taboo

                                                                                                                                                  hell - when i was in the 7th grade some of the girls where fucking 29 yrold guys, so why not bring attention to this subject?

                                                                                                                                                  but in all fairness - i'm not the one to be a judge.
                                                                                                                                                  I'm not a poor bible beater from tenesee or even from america

                                                                                                                                                  in europe that sort of things wouldt never make an outcry like this one.... crazy
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                                                                                                                                                    • Onixia
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                                                                                                                                                      I think its awfull ... But young actors grow up fast and have no `real`childhood .
                                                                                                                                                      Its just money for this girl. I think she would do anything to recieve them ...
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                                                                                                                                                        • notabook
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          As long as this movie's main point is to teach awareness, rather than serve as entertainment, I see nothing wrong with it. If it's only for exploitive purposes to make a quick buck then I wouldn't/couldn't condone it.

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                                                                                                                                                            • Nylz
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                                                                                                                                                              what a slut
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                                                                                                                                                                • Theo
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  I just saw it's the same girl that played at "I am Sam". She's more mature than many around, a professional actress and I'm sure her role won't cause her any harm.

                                                                                                                                                                  I don't see how it can be illegal from the moment it's pure acting. If she was using a gun in the movie to kill someone would that make her a murderer or would it be illegal too? I can't see the connection. It's a movie.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • tony299
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      if you dont get offended now and then you dont live in a free country

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                                                                                                                                                                        • wyldblyss
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                                                                                                                                                                          it sure has people talking about the movie......

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                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                                                                                                                              I just saw it's the same girl that played at "I am Sam". She's more mature than many around, a professional actress and I'm sure her role won't cause her any harm.

                                                                                                                                                                              I don't see how it can be illegal from the moment it's pure acting. If she was using a gun in the movie to kill someone would that make her a murderer or would it be illegal too? I can't see the connection. It's a movie.
                                                                                                                                                                              How true! Always surprised about the large number of hypocrite morons on an adult webmaster board...


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                                                                                                                                                                                • _Richard_
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                                                                                                                                                                                  this movie was done for sundance was it not?

                                                                                                                                                                                  I had thought that film festival was designed to have controversial films in it..

                                                                                                                                                                                  i think the girl said it best..

                                                                                                                                                                                  "They should be talking about all the girls that are being raped for real"

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Romeo GaySearch4Sex
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                                                                                                                                                                                      I found it fairly unnerving too when I heard about it... however, I wouldnt trust anything Fox News says about it.

                                                                                                                                                                                      However from wikipedia : "Filming of Hounddog wrapped on July 21st, 2006 in North Carolina. The movie reportedly contains a rape scene involving Fanning's character and to appear naked or clad only in "underpants" . In the scene it has been widely speculated that Fanning, 12, wore a body suit and was accompanied by her mother and agent.[2]"

                                                                                                                                                                                      Also note that Robin Wright Penn is directing the movie... I think she seems to be a very sensitive person with children of her own (I believe). Also, it seems a little different if a woman is directing rather a man who might just care about the performance... maybe thats stereotyping, but you have to give it some thought.
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