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**** How Island Dollars fucked me over? Are you next? ****
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For now. I totally expect a smooth spin story very soon. He has the gift of gabb. And if the others who know the facts will post on it, it's going shoot down whatever spin he creates. But that's up to them, I hate to drag others into this, but privately I have already been told I am 100% correct.
I don't know how they run Island Dollars, and I'm NOT making any accusations that they have cheated anyone (other than me and his friend), but I know that a person who is not trustworthy, is not just sometimes untrustworthy. At least that has been my experience.
Care to explain how I cheated anyone to build IslandDollars from scratch, with my own time, resources and funds, without a partnership from another party?
That is a HEAVY accusation there DWB.ISLAND DOLLARS
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I got the domain when I first started shooting her for DVD work. Then started shooting for the site the next month, Jan 2006. I have a program in beta right now and have several sites that I have opened since then, and still have a schedule of sites to open. I can't simply open them all at once. You know how that is. You make a plan and stick to it. I had no idea this was going to happen, otherwise it would have gone to the front of the line. Everyone who shoots over there in our circle knew she was my project so I didn't see any problems or reason to change my plan.
Trust me, if I had thought one of the guys I supported and trusted was going to do this, the site would have already been open.Comment
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Changing the subject when things aren't going your way, and putting words in DWBs mouth, instead of answering to his actual accusations is not a strong way to build your case.
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Not only are you a snake, you can't read. The word NOT is highlighted in orange.
Spin baby, spin baby, spin.............Comment
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I got the domain when I first started shooting her for DVD work. Then started shooting for the site the next month, Jan 2006. I have a program in beta right now and have several sites that I have opened since then, and still have a schedule of sites to open. I can't simply open them all at once. You know how that is. You make a plan and stick to it. I had no idea this was going to happen, otherwise it would have gone to the front of the line. Everyone who shoots over there in our circle knew she was my project so I didn't see any problems or reason to change my plan.
Trust me, if I had thought one of the guys I supported and trusted was going to do this, the site would have already been open.
Plus being in a 3rd world country, there is no telling what is going to happen to this model so I wanted to shoot a full 2 years worth of content and updates before I opened in case she went MIA, which has happened with models I have worked with in the past over there.Comment
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The CONCEPT, the type of which is something that is rarely done not the MODEL. We're not ones for drama, and I have no issues posting the facts. And of the 3 people I know in Thailand, of with none are spoken with on a regular or even semi regular basis, who are these people that I hang around with? And to my knowledge you have only met Marc once, maybe twice. Do you have long icqs with Marc discussing your future plans?And there is the spin I have been waiting for... Nice one!!!
In fact, you are correct, this did happen a couple of days ago, and that was when I started writing this post.
You said, and I quote, "This concept is a great one, which is one that we felt we could do better than anyone else." more than once.
I also said I don't care if she shoots for others, I can't stop that, but a solo site is something I am doing with her. You encouraged it, brainstormed with me, and said it was going to make a lot of money.
You knew what I was doing, Mark knew it, and everyone else you hang with over there knows it and has confirmed to me you knew it. I consulted them before I posted this to make sure I was not in the wrong. It's not going to fly Marty, not this time, not with me. But nice try and thanks for the bump.
I was screwed just as much as you having content with an exact model that is planned for another site.ISLAND DOLLARS
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The CONCEPT, the type of which is something that is rarely done not the MODEL. We're not ones for drama, and I have no issues posting the facts. And of the 3 people I know in Thailand, of with none are spoken with on a regular or even semi regular basis, who are these people that I hang around with? And to my knowledge you have only met Marc once, maybe twice. Do you have long icqs with Marc discussing your future plans?
I was screwed just as much as you having content with an exact model that is planned for another site.

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If someone is vaguely accusing me or my program of something on a public forum, I would like it to be as clear as possible.ISLAND DOLLARS
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Anything you want to promote now on www.asianglamors.com let me know.
The site sucks but it gets traffic.
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I approached Dallas with all of the different avenues of resolution I could think of; purchasing his content, working together on a site, putting up two sites and selling as a partnership betwen them. I even mentioned selling our content to him.
Gee if this was to be an "honest mistake" why would you be bending over backwards to try to make amends with Dallas..?
Things that make you go hmmmm....

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Of course there would have been nothing to resolve if you had of left it alone in the first place.I approached Dallas with all of the different avenues of resolution I could think of; purchasing his content, working together on a site, putting up two sites and selling as a partnership betwen them. I even mentioned selling our content to him.
Gee if this was to be an "honest mistake" why would you be bending over backwards to try to make amends with Dallas..?
Things that make you go hmmmm....
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I'm reminded of the old marketing expression, let's put some lipstick on this pig!The CONCEPT, the type of which is something that is rarely done not the MODEL. We're not ones for drama, and I have no issues posting the facts. And of the 3 people I know in Thailand, of with none are spoken with on a regular or even semi regular basis, who are these people that I hang around with? And to my knowledge you have only met Marc once, maybe twice. Do you have long icqs with Marc discussing your future plans?
I was screwed just as much as you having content with an exact model that is planned for another site.

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I do my best to take care of EVERYONE we might potentially be doing business with.I approached Dallas with all of the different avenues of resolution I could think of; purchasing his content, working together on a site, putting up two sites and selling as a partnership betwen them. I even mentioned selling our content to him.
Gee if this was to be an "honest mistake" why would you be bending over backwards to try to make amends with Dallas..?
Things that make you go hmmmm....
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Bingo.
The thing is, if he did not know there was going to be an issue, he would not have ICQd me to say "I always want to avoid conflicts and work out the best arrangement between us." Then go on to tell me how he feels he can make this site better than anyone else (me) and then say that he could buy my content of her.Comment
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from what i read, that would be the most hypocritical thing I have heard all year! And probably for the rest of it too!! well done, at least you can say you topped something this year!!
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I don't know if you realise how much biz this whole thing is gonna cost you on the long run... There are so many affiliates programs out there, it's very easy to choose another one.Originally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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I'm sure you can conjure up a FINANCIAL solution. Outside of that, you fucked me. Plain and simple.
Paying me off, offering DVDs rights, or whatever you want to offer does not change the fact that you did this and violated the trust I had, and totally destroyed the massive amount of respect I had for you.
Unless you can walk on fucking water and create miracles, there is not a solution to this. Believe me when I say that this is the last thing I wanted, because I really don't need the hassle right now, but wrong is wrong and I'm going to call you out on it.
Admit you fucked me, right here to everyone, and come clean. Then and only then are we going to move forward. It's not going to make you look any worse, but you will at least take the stripe, put it behind you, and move forward. You can put an end to this with one post.
I'm not going to stop until you do, and unfortunately for you this is just the beginning.Last edited by DWB; 01-22-2007, 11:54 PM.Comment
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And what sounds will you make when karma catches up with you?
You pay people to design nice looking sites for you, packaging what looks like 30-somethings to me as teenagers, but when the facade is stripped away, you are coming across as someone who would screw/pimp his mother for a quick buck.
I've been to Thailand. You best sleep with one eye open if that is all you are good for...
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P.S. What's the point of talking biz arround a drink if you're not gonna remember it ?
I remember pretty much any semi important conversation I've had with webmasters...
Admitting would be the right thing to do at this point...Last edited by Doctor Dre; 01-22-2007, 11:56 PM.Originally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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I had a model and was building a solo site with her. I told the guys from island dollars about it over drinks. They took the same model and is about to open a site with her, and claim I never told them about it.
Even shorter... I got nailed in the poo hole.Comment
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DWB talks to the guys from island dollars about a project with a model in a bar (single girl site).
Island Dollars go behind his back and build a single girl site with the same girl
Island contacts DWB to make good somehow... claims in this thread he dosen't remember the conversation.
DWB dosen't care about the money, but want to make sure everyone knows about Island Dollars.
DWB also claims it was very clear that they knew about what he was building.Originally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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I feel awful about the entire situation Dallas, on a personal level. I've always valued your friendship and am sincere in says I don't want you to feel or think you are getting fucked over. Looking at the entire post and how things played out I was in the wrong. Lets talk.I'm sure you can conjure up a FINANCIAL solution. Outside of that, you fucked me. Plain and simple.
Paying me off, offering DVDs rights, or whatever you want to offer does not change the fact that you did this and violated the trust I had, and totally destroyed the massive amount of respect I had for you.
Unless you can walk on fucking water and create miracles, there is not a solution to this. Believe me when I say that this is the last thing I wanted, because I really don't need the hassle right now, but wrong is wrong and I'm going to call you out on it.
Admit you fucked me, right here to everyone, and come clean. Then and only then are we going to move forward. It's not going to make you look any worse, but you will at least take the stripe, put it behind you, and move forward.
I'm not going to stop until you do, and unfortunately for you this is just the beginning.ISLAND DOLLARS
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Okay, so in other words, investment of time and effort made without securing the model on contract first, right?DWB talks to the guys from island dollars about a project with a model in a bar (single girl site).
Island Dollars go behind his back and build a single girl site with the same girl
Island contacts DWB to make good somehow... claims in this thread he dosen't remember the conversation.
DWB dosen't care about the money, but want to make sure everyone knows about Island Dollars.
DWB also claims it was very clear that they knew about what he was building.Comment
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You would think people working in a foreign country and preforming work that is illegal in that country, would walk on egg shells very, very lightly. It's not like Thailand has a nice track record with westerners whom break the law in their county. Would be one of the places I wouldn't want to live and have an enemy that knew I was doing work that was illegal.I'm in the USA right now, he is in Thailand.
It is not out of the realm of possibility that he will be arrested soon and either jailed or blacklisted from Thailand. It really is just a matter of how pissed I still am when I get back over there, and how much bull shit he wants to continue to spew out of his lying mouth.
When it comes to my family or my business, I will DESTROY anyone who fucks with either.
Thailand is the WRONG country to live in (and shoot porn in) if you have enemies.In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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I guess selling him what you had done so far and backing off was not an option you thought of ?
You claim you didn't know he was building a site around her, but then when you found out he was building a site it didn't stop you from continuing with her then so why would it have stopped you if you knew before hand
doesn't make sense. So you saying you wouldn't have worked with her if you knew he was building a site around her ?
(if yes, then stop with her now and let him buy your content from you so you don't lose any money.)ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Originally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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You would be a very good politician dudeI feel awful about the entire situation Dallas, on a personal level. I've always valued your friendship and am sincere in says I don't want you to feel or think you are getting fucked over. Looking at the entire post and how things played out I was in the wrong. Lets talk.
You're very good at evasive answers lol
Originally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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Personal services arrangement of some sort. It sounds like the model played both sides of the street here. I would say so far Will sounds about right, negotiate a price for the content shot so far, and one sell to the other and move on.Comment
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At this point if I'd be him I'd prolly just give you all her content for free... this thread is about to ruin his biz if it dosen't get resolved quicklyOriginally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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In theory that sounds good, but I should not have to buy content of her, from someone else to stop them from making a site.I guess selling him what you had done so far and backing off was not an option you thought of ?
You claim you didn't know he was building a site around her, but then when you found out he was building a site it didn't stop you from continuing with her then so why would it have stopped you if you knew before hand
doesn't make sense. So you saying you wouldn't have worked with her if you knew he was building a site around her ?
(if yes, then stop with her now and let him buy your content from you so you don't lose any money.)Comment
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Without some exclusivity with the model, this is the risk you took. The model knew what you were up to, yet still shot for someone else. At a certain point, the issue is of your own making, and you need to accept at least some responsibility for the situation. You should feel lucky that it is someone yu feel you can call out on the boards, rather than someone a little bigger than you tell you to just blow away.
Remember, too, tattling to the Thai authorities would have to start out with "I met this model that I shot nude on my last trip to thailand" which would pretty much put you in the same leaky boat.
I think both of you need to man up and work out a solution that doesn't involve dropping bombs on each other's head.Comment
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As a fellow Asian producer, I do not appreciate your cheap unprovoked shots in this thread . But you are most certainly entitled to your opinions, and a visit to Asia.And what sounds will you make when karma catches up with you?
You pay people to design nice looking sites for you, packaging what looks like 30-somethings to me as teenagers, but when the facade is stripped away, you are coming across as someone who would screw/pimp his mother for a quick buck.
I've been to Thailand. You best sleep with one eye open if that is all you are good for...
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Hope this gets resolved DWB!Paul
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She can shoot for anyone, and has shot for others in the past. That is not a problem. Building a site for her is a problem.Without some exclusivity with the model, this is the risk you took. The model knew what you were up to, yet still shot for someone else. At a certain point, the issue is of your own making, and you need to accept at least some responsibility for the situation. You should feel lucky that it is someone yu feel you can call out on the boards, rather than someone a little bigger than you tell you to just blow away.
Not gonna happen, trust me.Comment
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Bump...
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I guess selling him what you had done so far and backing off was not an option you thought of ?
You claim you didn't know he was building a site around her, but then when you found out he was building a site it didn't stop you from continuing with her then so why would it have stopped you if you knew before hand
doesn't make sense. So you saying you wouldn't have worked with her if you knew he was building a site around her ?
(if yes, then stop with her now and let him buy your content from you so you don't lose any money.)
As mentioned earlier, selling the content was an option presented. The content is already shot and we are more than flexible.ISLAND DOLLARS
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