FACT: The adult business is no longer innovative

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  • Splum
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    • May 2003
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    #1

    FACT: The adult business is no longer innovative

    Since when was the last time any of you fuckers came up with something innovative? Seems like these days the adult biz is nothing but copycatters. Youtube spawns Pornotube, Myspace spawns AdultSpace. So whats the problem here? Has this business lost its innovative edge?
  • Grapesoda
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    • Jul 2003
    • 46234

    #2
    don't worry I have that covered for ya

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    • tiger
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      • Apr 2002
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      #3
      *Puts on my thinking cap*

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      • 12clicks
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        • Jan 2001
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        #4
        Originally posted by Splum
        Since when was the last time any of you fuckers came up with something innovative? Seems like these days the adult biz is nothing but copycatters. Youtube spawns Pornotube, Myspace spawns AdultSpace. So whats the problem here? Has this business lost its innovative edge?
        yup. get out now
        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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        • Splum
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          • May 2003
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          #5
          Originally posted by 12clicks
          yup. get out now
          Hah my shit is rolling bigger than half you fuckers and I am a relative newb.

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          • 12clicks
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            • Jan 2001
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            #6
            Originally posted by Splum
            Hah my shit is rolling bigger than half you fuckers and I am a relative newb.
            well, mr. big roller, what have you invented?
            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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            • beemk
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              • Jan 2002
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              #7
              Originally posted by Splum
              Hah my shit is rolling bigger than half you fuckers and I am a relative newb.
              my dad can beat up your dad.
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              • Paul-HushMoney
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                • Jul 2006
                • 75

                #8
                Originally posted by Splum
                Since when was the last time any of you fuckers came up with something innovative? Seems like these days the adult biz is nothing but copycatters. Youtube spawns Pornotube, Myspace spawns AdultSpace. So whats the problem here? Has this business lost its innovative edge?
                Coming very soon.

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                • beemk
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                  • Jan 2002
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                  #9
                  btw, whats with all these companies coming out with new cars these days? according to your logic everyone should be driving around in one of these:

                  Last edited by beemk; 01-22-2007, 05:28 PM.
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                  • the source
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                    • Apr 2004
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                    #10
                    Innovation, eh? Visit Upperclassvideo.com today
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                    • Paul-HushMoney
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                      • Jul 2006
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by the source
                      Innovation, eh? Visit Upperclassvideo.com today
                      HD has been done.

                      Correction, the dual angle is pretty cool.
                      Last edited by Paul-HushMoney; 01-22-2007, 05:32 PM.

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                      • Splum
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                        • May 2003
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by the source
                        Innovation, eh? Visit Upperclassvideo.com today
                        Very nice, but sadly will probably never be bigger than say Myspace

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                        • J.R.
                          WantBoobs.com
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 3479

                          #13
                          All these fuckers act like HD is something new, so every jumps to make an HD site.. wipty do.

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                          • Brujah
                            Beer Money Baron
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 22157

                            #14
                            When it happens, it'll probably come from the rookies and not the dinosaurs. That's how it happens in mainstream isn't it? The old school of the industry doesn't take the risks or listen to what the rookies have to say. They sometimes think they already know everything there is to know and dismiss any good ideas. There's also no money being poured into investing in the ideas of these rookies, unlike in mainstream.

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                            • Splum
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by beemk
                              btw, whats with all these companies coming out with new cars these days? according to your logic everyone should be driving around in one of these:
                              My logic? You didnt read the thread right, I said the adult business hasnt been a creative force on the internet in years, the biggest advertising revenue model isnt dialers/popups/etc(that adult biz invented) its CPC, the biggest social gathering places(Myspace etc) on the internet are not owned/created/controlled by the adult business, the largest video site(Youtube) on the internet isnt a porn video site(and it damn well SHOULD be), I just dont see a lot of creative push from the adult biz as I did in the late 90s/early 00s. I sure hope someone breaks out with something soon.

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                              • wyldworx
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Dec 2006
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                                #16
                                Innovation comes with need, I am sure there are those out there thinking and working on new ideas. Do you think for one minute that they would be stupid enough to let you in on thier ideas? That wouldn't be very innovative, would it....

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                                • Splum
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                                  • May 2003
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by wyldworx
                                  Innovation comes with need, I am sure there are those out there thinking and working on new ideas. Do you think for one minute that they would be stupid enough to let you in on thier ideas? That wouldn't be very innovative, would it....
                                  WTF are they waiting for I need new ideas to copy. Ill take the dog scraps in this biz no problem, the problem is the dog scraps these days are pretty fucking thin.

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                                  • Aric
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                                    • Sep 2002
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by 12clicks
                                    well, mr. big roller, what have you invented?
                                    waiting....for.....an......answer.....
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                                    • 12clicks
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 19816

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Splum
                                      My logic? You didnt read the thread right, I said the adult business hasnt been a creative force on the internet in years, the biggest advertising revenue model isnt dialers/popups/etc(that adult biz invented) its CPC
                                      actually, that's not true. the biggest advertising revenue WAS popups. The CPC model (Cost Per Click) was also invented by adult and discarded by adult as too much fraud for the trouble. Mainstream has made it THEIR biggest revenue model because they are several years behind adult. The CPC model will collapse just as it did in adult.
                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                      • Aric
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                                        • Sep 2002
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by 12clicks
                                        actually, that's not true. the biggest advertising revenue WAS popups. The CPC model (Cost Per Click) was also invented by adult and discarded by adult as too much fraud for the trouble. Mainstream has made it THEIR biggest revenue model because they are several years behind adult. The CPC model will collapse just as it did in adult.
                                        Don't waste your breath Ron. He's basically asking "What have you done for ME lately?!"
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                                        • american pervert
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                                          #21
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                                          • Splum
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                                            • May 2003
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Aric
                                            Don't waste your breath Ron. He's basically asking "What have you done for ME lately?!"
                                            Lol you said Ron, a little friendly there arent we?

                                            Seems to be a touchy subject with lots of program owners?


                                            Look the question is valid, where is the innovation in this industry? This isnt a thread about my personal achievements I already said I am a relative newb(4 years) and I do just fine with what I have. I want the adult business to be cutting edge again, it benefits us all.
                                            Last edited by Splum; 01-22-2007, 05:57 PM.

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                                            • Martin
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                                              • Dec 2001
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                                              #23
                                              If it wasn't for the Adult Business you wouldn't see these type of sites.

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                                              • 12clicks
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 19816

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Splum
                                                Lol you said Ron, a little friendly there arent we?

                                                Seems to be a touchy subject with lots of program owners?


                                                Look the question is valid, where is the innovation in this industry? This isnt a thread about my personal achievements I already said I am a relative newb(4 years) and I do just fine with what I have. I want the adult business to be cutting edge again, it benefits us all.
                                                then do something. We've stepped up plenty. How about you get down off our backs and do something for a change.
                                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                • DjSap
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                                                  #25
                                                  The adult industry is at the forefront of RSS feeds, even though most of them suck they are still way ahead of mainstream affiliate programs when it comes to that.
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                                                  • Aric
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Splum
                                                    Lol you said Ron, a little friendly there arent we?
                                                    Woops.

                                                    12clicks.. I fucking hate you and I wish you'd drop dead.

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                                                    • Splum
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by DjSap
                                                      The adult industry is at the forefront of RSS feeds, even though most of them suck they are still way ahead of mainstream affiliate programs when it comes to that.
                                                      RSS feeds were not created by the adult industry and no they are not at the FOREFRONT most mainstream blogs and nerd-like sites have had strong large rss feed readerships for years. its just another non-adult innovation that adult has adapted(and wisely).

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                                                      • Splum
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Aric
                                                        Woops. 12clicks.. I fucking hate you and I wish you'd drop dead. Happy?
                                                        Oh just go suck his cock already, or add something useful to the conversation instead of hanging on 12s nutsack. Kthxbye.

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                                                        • Idigmygirls
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                                                          #29
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                                                          • Aric
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Splum
                                                            Oh just go suck his cock already, or add something useful to the conversation instead of hanging on 12s nutsack. Kthxbye.
                                                            But... I don't even like him.

                                                            Nice touch with the "kthnxbye" ... did you steal that from Fark.com forums?

                                                            You're the one suckling on the sponsor tit. Get off your ass and innovate. Innovators don't sit around and complain on message boards - they uhm, innovate
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                                                            • DWB
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                                                              • Jul 2003
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                                                              #31
                                                              Just today I was showing my DVD distributor some female pics I wanted to use as a box cover for my next movie.

                                                              They did not conform to the "typical" LA box cover "shot" and I was told "you need to look at the guys selling big numbers and copy those poses, your poses are just not box covers. There is a certain look that needs to be on a cover."

                                                              I fell out of my seat. To actually be told to copy someone else and NOT be creative, wow. Of course I will do just the opposite of what they say because that is what I feel needs to be done.

                                                              In no way was my photos "new" but they were different from US poses and was more along the lines of hip Japanese poses with the feet coming at ya.

                                                              And the DVD industry wonders why sales are going down, down, down. It's because everyone copies everyone, just like we do online, and a new idea gets bent down like a protruding nail.
                                                              Last edited by DWB; 01-22-2007, 06:55 PM.

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                                                              • aico
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                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                • 14748

                                                                #32
                                                                Using a word other than Fact: in the title of this thread would have been innovative.

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                                                                • CDSmith
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                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                  • 51460

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Splum
                                                                  Look the question is valid, where is the innovation in this industry?
                                                                  If you can't see it, I really have to wonder if it behooves me to point it out to you. :D

                                                                  I think your thread title is incorrect. It's not that the adult business as a whole isn't innovative, it's that maybe 90% of those IN the biz aren't innovative....many of whom are sitting around waiting for someone ELSE to be innovative so they can steal or otherwise rip off their ideas.
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                                                                  • Pornwolf
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                                                                    • Jan 2002
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    The adult biz rarely innovates... it monetizes new technology in a way that mainstream can only dream of.
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                                                                    • RRRED
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      I love when I hear "Check out so and so and let's do something like THAT cuz I hear they do really good numbers" Eeeks! Try, test, and tweak! Your OWN ideas... There are major plans over here to change this very problem. They are already rolling with some ideas that have not been implemented and already seeing results. I think this year is going to cause a major shift in the way everyone is doing things.

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                                                                      • biftek
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                                                                        • Jan 2005
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                        And the DVD industry wonders why sales are going down, down, down. It's because everyone copies everyone, just like we do online, and a new idea gets bent down like a protruding nail.
                                                                        lol porn movies copying each other , how many different fuck scenes are there
                                                                        you see one porn movie you've seen em all , viewers can only handle so many "storylines" and blondes before it gets old

                                                                        i have this talk with a few porn lovers that i know , always telling me about this new porno they picked up , when i ask them what's the difference between this one and the last they brought , they can't really give an answer , its like fishing videos ,

                                                                        sales are going down one reason being , ppl are downloading them , don't have to do the face to face humilation thing of buying a movie from the store , then there is "you've seen one porn you've seen them all"

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                                                                        • RawAlex
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                                                                          • Oct 2003
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Umm, porn, let's see...

                                                                          "in, out, repeat".

                                                                          Nothing new under the sun since that point.

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                                                                          • will76
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                                                                            • May 2003
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            The newest things are porn on phones ? I haven't really looked into any of this yet but would have to think it is one of the new distribution methods of porn. All in all I don't think a lot has happened in the last 3 or 4 years.

                                                                            One thing the porn industry needs is a true billing company. OnlynNeed a couple hundred million VC money to get one of these companies rolling. Something that you don't fund with visa but works like visa, where the company loans out money and makes interest. 100% independent of visa.

                                                                            People need an alternative once and for all. Who can fuck with us then. Not to mention it would be a popular payment method but imagine if visa regs get tougher and tougher or they pull the plug one day, this would be a multi billion a year company over night. Everyone knows the credit card model works, why not create one that caters to a multi billion dollar a year industry , business that visa doesn't want anyway.
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                                                                            • HomeFry
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Splum
                                                                              RSS feeds were not created by the adult industry and no they are not at the FOREFRONT most mainstream blogs and nerd-like sites have had strong large rss feed readerships for years. its just another non-adult innovation that adult has adapted(and wisely).
                                                                              I used to setup RDF outputs from my TGP years ago (about 1999), and setup a feed reader on Trillian to watch when someone submitted a new gallery.
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                                                                              • HomeFry
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Also, the new innovations are ones that you are never going to see, until it's too late to jump on the bandwagon. The industry framework has been built, the working business models are already in place, the only innovations that happen now are on a much higher level than you'll ever understand, and even if you get to that point, they'll be that much further ahead of you. If you want to see innovation, invent something yourself, and then come here and show us all how smart you are. lol, because that's what innovators do, they invent things to go show off to everyone on message boards. pffft.
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