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  • jgabra62
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    • Nov 2006
    • 1396

    #1

    What diets and/or exercise have worked best for you??

    I am getting married in May and I would like to try and lose about 25 pounds by that time.
    I currently weigh about 195 pounds, which is very heavy for me. I uses to be able to stay at around 165-170...but lately I havent been staying very disciplined.

    So, im wondering...what diets and/or exercise have worked best for you guys??
    Do you have any suggestions for me to help me successfully attempt to lose that much weight in the next 3 months?
    Joey 'J-Gabz' Gabra
    NMS Productions USA, LLC

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    • Oct 2004
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    • riddler
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      • Oct 2004
      • 3726

      #3
      just watch your calories, eat less refined stuff more whole wheat, do 30 minutes of cardio a day.

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      • Tulku
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        • Aug 2003
        • 672

        #4
        High-Protein Diet and Cardio will do the work ..

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        • dyna mo
          just a fucking jerk
          • Dec 2008
          • 68184

          #5
          i've recently lost 25 pounds, it's not difficult to do.

          the basic formula never changes- you have to consume less calories than you expend.

          the easiest way is to cut calories enough to lose weight, easy because you don't have to fiddle around with supplying yourself enough nutrients and cals to exercise.

          the downside is this isn't the healthiest not the wisest, long term.

          more difficult is to create a program that has you eating more but including exercise, but healthier and much better than the above.



          if you can work out at home i would recommend p90 or p90x. if you are working out at the club i would suggest a program similar to one of these-


          http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/newyearsguide.htm

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          • EdgeXXX
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            • Oct 2005
            • 5816

            #6



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            You have received some good advice so far in this thread. However, if you are looking to lose 25lbs in 3 months and are having a problem with discipline, my advice would be to spend the money and hire a competent trainer and possibly a nutritionist.
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            • Eric
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              • Dec 2000
              • 8818

              #7
              http://www.iwantsixpackabs.com

              good info there and the workouts are pretty easy to do even if you are traveling. Additionally, you don't need a ton of equipment
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              • GrouchyAdmin
                Now choke yourself!
                • Apr 2006
                • 12085

                #8
                "Stop eating garbage."

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                • Choopa Phil
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                  • Apr 2009
                  • 3965

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jgabra62
                  I am getting married in May and I would like to try and lose about 25 pounds by that time.
                  I currently weigh about 195 pounds, which is very heavy for me. I uses to be able to stay at around 165-170...but lately I havent been staying very disciplined.

                  So, im wondering...what diets and/or exercise have worked best for you guys??
                  Do you have any suggestions for me to help me successfully attempt to lose that much weight in the next 3 months?
                  post up your current diet and training routine and ill be more than happy to help u out. Its not rocket science, ur not going on a diet, ur changing ur diet, u cant eat this way for 3 months and go back to your old ways. Be prepared to change your lifestyle or it wont even be worth it
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                  • Kool Kelly
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                    • Feb 2010
                    • 147

                    #10
                    No diet, simply hard work and Creatine...

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                    • Choopa Phil
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                      • Apr 2009
                      • 3965

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Kool Kelly
                      No diet, simply hard work and Creatine...
                      yea bro, keep pounding down mcdonalds, creatine and working out will fix ur problems lol...please dont listen to this
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                      • Vegas Ken
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                        • Sep 2006
                        • 4151

                        #12
                        South Beach diet worked for me
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                        • nolongerexists
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                          • Apr 2003
                          • 1096

                          #13
                          i will camp here and read what DLXphil has to say.. ;-)
                          work smart not hard ;)

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                          • Elli
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                            • Apr 2003
                            • 17991

                            #14
                            I've tried a variety of sensible and not so sensible diet regimes, and the only one that works? Reasonable portion sizes of good food. Eat at home, not out. If you're going to be stuck "out" then pack a lunch or a snack so you won't be tempted until you get home to your good food. Take time to make your food so you appreciate it more. Home made muffins don't have poly-whatsits or unsaturated-whosits in them, but you can bet the store-bought muffins do.
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                            • Serial Pervert
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                              • Mar 2008
                              • 2666

                              #15
                              good luck about the wedding.
                              when i wanna lose some weight, i try no food, but it's not health

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                                • PornstarXS
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                                  • 358

                                  #17
                                  Pretty simple to lose the weight. Start sweating and eating natural foods. natural meaning it was living at one time, plant, vegetable or animal. Stop eating things from packages and processed nonsense. Eat fibrous foods that will get you regular and shiating the excess garbage you are storing. Oh and start exercising, running, walking, weights etc. get a sweat going. Weight training is good since you'll get harder and your muscles will burn fat while you are resting.

                                  I don't recommend trainers because 95% of them want to juice you of your money. Make friends with someone at a gym - someone who has the type of body you'd like to shoot for. Ask for a tip or two over time, or offering to buy them a protein shake at the end of their workout. You can make new friends, pass the time by quickly, get free knowledge and start getting results.
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                                  • Daddy Big Nuts
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                                    #18
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                                    • dyna mo
                                      just a fucking jerk
                                      • Dec 2008
                                      • 68184

                                      #19
                                      i did a bit of the math for you,

                                      25 pounds of fat = 87,500 calories.

                                      you need to burn 975 extra calories daily to hit your goal in 90 days.

                                      so if you are 30 year old male, 195 pounds is ~ 2200 calories needed daily for maintenance, your target should be 1100 calories daily.

                                      you can do that by eating only 1100 calories, or by eating 1600 calories and doing 500 calories of exercise,

                                      etc.

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                                      • O MARINA
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                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 13794

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Vegas Ken
                                        South Beach diet worked for me


                                        you look so different!

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                                        • jgabra62
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                                          • Nov 2006
                                          • 1396

                                          #21
                                          Thanks guys...most of this was fairly helpful.
                                          I suppose there are some very obvious ways to go about losing weight...and I know those always work.
                                          I just thought it might be cool to see what other people out here are doing and if there might be something new and cool I havent tried yet.
                                          I'll definitely take a bit of advice from each of you and see how I can apply it.

                                          Thanks again!
                                          Joey 'J-Gabz' Gabra
                                          NMS Productions USA, LLC

                                          [email protected]
                                          Skype: jgabra62

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                                          • candyflip
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                                            • Jul 2002
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                                            #22
                                            For all round exercise, nothing beats swimming. Most people over look it and never even consider it.

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                                            • baddog
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                                              • Apr 2001
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                                              #23
                                              Raw food diet.

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                                              • jgabra62
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                                                • Nov 2006
                                                • 1396

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DLXphil
                                                post up your current diet and training routine and ill be more than happy to help u out. Its not rocket science, ur not going on a diet, ur changing ur diet, u cant eat this way for 3 months and go back to your old ways. Be prepared to change your lifestyle or it wont even be worth it
                                                My current diet and training routine is fairly non-existent at the moment.
                                                I used to do a do a fairly decent morning cardio exercise up until about 3 months ago...then my work schedule changed pretty dramatically and I dont really have much time to exercise in the mornings anymore.

                                                As far as my diet goes...its not too bad actually. I typically eat very healthy foods, but my main problem lately is that I am ALWAYS hungry! I tend to eat lots of salads, fruits, chicken, sushi. I dont eat very much red meat or dairy at all. The main thing is my portions are kind of larger and I always seem to be hungry again shortly after eating a large meal.

                                                Any ideas??
                                                Joey 'J-Gabz' Gabra
                                                NMS Productions USA, LLC

                                                [email protected]
                                                Skype: jgabra62

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                                                • Gerco
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                                                  • Nov 2005
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                                                  #25
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                                                  • dyna mo
                                                    just a fucking jerk
                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                    • 68184

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jgabra62
                                                    my main problem lately is that I am ALWAYS hungry!


                                                    Any ideas??

                                                    hunger is a state of mind. it goes away when you think of something else and in the case when your body really is hungry, a small snack or meal is plenty.

                                                    you can satiate hunger with 250 calorie snacks and sub500 calorie main meals, i do it all the time, every day.


                                                    if you are serious about losing 25 pounds of flab in 90 days you are going to have deal with feeling hungry, it's not a biggie.

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                                                    • riddler
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                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                      • 3726

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jgabra62
                                                      My current diet and training routine is fairly non-existent at the moment.
                                                      I used to do a do a fairly decent morning cardio exercise up until about 3 months ago...then my work schedule changed pretty dramatically and I dont really have much time to exercise in the mornings anymore.

                                                      As far as my diet goes...its not too bad actually. I typically eat very healthy foods, but my main problem lately is that I am ALWAYS hungry! I tend to eat lots of salads, fruits, chicken, sushi. I dont eat very much red meat or dairy at all. The main thing is my portions are kind of larger and I always seem to be hungry again shortly after eating a large meal.

                                                      Any ideas??
                                                      eat high protein foods, caseinate proteins are good because they digest slowly, so stuff like cottage cheese for a snack..

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                                                      • dyna mo
                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                        • 68184

                                                        #28
                                                        my diet so far today, it's 1:45-

                                                        1 cup oats with 2 scoops muscle milk lite protein

                                                        4 oz sirloin 1/2 cup peas 1/2 cup corn forzen/nuked


                                                        2 tbsp peanut butter/banana

                                                        2 scoops muscle milk lite + 1 tbsp udo's oil

                                                        left to eat

                                                        4 oz salmon pattie, salad, protein shake. all complex carbs consumed in the am

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                                                        • mvee
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                                                          • Jan 2007
                                                          • 938

                                                          #29
                                                          I have lost 40 pounds in the last 4 months using this diet and training system

                                                          http://www.turbulencetraining.com

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                                                          • dyna mo
                                                            just a fucking jerk
                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                            • 68184

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by mvee
                                                            I have lost 40 pounds in the last 4 months using this diet and training system

                                                            http://www.turbulencetraining.com
                                                            what equipment does this require? dumb bells and a pull up bar? looks interesting.

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                                                            • jgabra62
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                                                              • Nov 2006
                                                              • 1396

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                              hunger is a state of mind. it goes away when you think of something else and in the case when your body really is hungry, a small snack or meal is plenty.

                                                              you can satiate hunger with 250 calorie snacks and sub500 calorie main meals, i do it all the time, every day.


                                                              if you are serious about losing 25 pounds of flab in 90 days you are going to have deal with feeling hungry, it's not a biggie.
                                                              You are totally right...I'll just have to suck it up for awhile and find other things to keep my mind off the hunger.
                                                              Joey 'J-Gabz' Gabra
                                                              NMS Productions USA, LLC

                                                              [email protected]
                                                              Skype: jgabra62

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                                                              • mvee
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                                                                • Jan 2007
                                                                • 938

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                what equipment does this require? dumb bells and a pull up bar? looks interesting.
                                                                He has a few programs, mostly it focuses on body weight exercises, push ups, squats lunges, etc. but more advanced stuff with dumb bells. It's all about short intense workouts. Getting the heart rate up really high than coming down. I get my whole thing done in less than an hour.

                                                                I started doing 4 sets of these at home

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                                                                • riddler
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                                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                                  • 3726

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jgabra62
                                                                  You are totally right...I'll just have to suck it up for awhile and find other things to keep my mind off the hunger.
                                                                  go to Walgreen's/CVS and get you a box of bronkaid or primatine, 200mg caffeine tablets and a bottle of aspirin..

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                                                                  • slapass
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                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                    • 14625

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I have been losing weight. Not much as I just started 15 days ago but I cut out soda pop. 120 calories a can adds up so by removing those 500-600 calories a day from my diet it is starting to have an effect. The best part is that it is pretty much painless. I notice that I get hungry during the day but usually just that last hour to 90 minutes before the next meal. Obviously before I would have grabbed a can of mt dew and kept going and now I drink a glass of water and live with it.

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                                                                    • Pandoras
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                                                                      #35
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                                                                      • PersianKitty
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                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                        • 7785

                                                                        #36
                                                                        one quick way to reduce calorie intake for some is to drop the liquid calories. Between colas, juice, alcohol, and such, it's not uncommon for people to be drinking 1000 calories a day.

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                                                                        • Choopa Phil
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                                                                          • Apr 2009
                                                                          • 3965

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                          i did a bit of the math for you,

                                                                          25 pounds of fat = 87,500 calories.

                                                                          you need to burn 975 extra calories daily to hit your goal in 90 days.

                                                                          so if you are 30 year old male, 195 pounds is ~ 2200 calories needed daily for maintenance, your target should be 1100 calories daily.

                                                                          you can do that by eating only 1100 calories, or by eating 1600 calories and doing 500 calories of exercise,

                                                                          etc.
                                                                          dyna u have to realize putting a grown man on such a caloric deficit will put his body into starvation mode. While on paper its correct, your body just doesnt work like that. I cant even begin to imagine the amount of muscle lost on that low of a caloric intake let alone how bad his energy level will be. A friend of mine who i trained started off about 165, at 5'7 she was a girl, obviously a little heavy, she was on 1600 cals a day and now sits at 125 pounds. The lower u go with the calories the worse it will be, he needs more frequent meals, id say about 2000-2200 calories, 400 calories a meal 5 times a day. thats more than enough to keep you full, and you will lose weight. Losing that amount of weight in 90 days without clenbuterol, steroids, ect and still maintain a healthy physique is close to impossible.
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                                                                          • dyna mo
                                                                            just a fucking jerk
                                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                                            • 68184

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by DLXphil
                                                                            dyna u have to realize putting a grown man on such a caloric deficit will put his body into starvation mode. While on paper its correct, your body just doesnt work like that. I cant even begin to imagine the amount of muscle lost on that low of a caloric intake let alone how bad his energy level will be. A friend of mine who i trained started off about 165, at 5'7 she was a girl, obviously a little heavy, she was on 1600 cals a day and now sits at 125 pounds. The lower u go with the calories the worse it will be, he needs more frequent meals, id say about 2000-2200 calories, 400 calories a meal 5 times a day. thats more than enough to keep you full, and you will lose weight. Losing that amount of weight in 90 days without clenbuterol, steroids, ect and still maintain a healthy physique is close to impossible.
                                                                            i'm with you, in retrospect, i prolly posted it more to show the extreme level that would have to be hit to reach the goal than as a viable 90 day plan.

                                                                            while doable, it's quite difficult.

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                                                                            • SonOfaBeach
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                                                                              • Apr 2009
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                              if you can work out at home i would recommend p90 or p90x.
                                                                              My wife and I did P90X a little over a year ago... actually, more like P75X because we got into great shape and never really finished the whole 90 days. I dropped 27lbs and 9% BMI. I'm 6' and went from 188lb and 26% BMI to 161lbs and 17% BMI.

                                                                              I *hate* exercising, but this program kept me motivated. Like I say - we followed it religiously for the first 2 months, then slowly started slacking off cuz we were happy w/ the results. Highly recommend it!


                                                                              Originally posted by DLXphil
                                                                              The lower u go with the calories the worse it will be, he needs more frequent meals, id say about 2000-2200 calories, 400 calories a meal 5 times a day. thats more than enough to keep you full, and you will lose weight.
                                                                              Exactly!! I couldn't believe the amount of food they were having me eat on P90X (I believe I was in the 2400 or 2700 calorie category when I started). I had never eaten that much in my life - it was tough to choke it all down!! BUT - like DLXphil says - the weight came off!
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                                                                              • dyna mo
                                                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                                                • Dec 2008
                                                                                • 68184

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by SonOfaBeach
                                                                                My wife and I did P90X a little over a year ago... actually, more like P75X because we got into great shape and never really finished the whole 90 days. I dropped 27lbs and 9% BMI. I'm 6' and went from 188lb and 26% BMI to 161lbs and 17% BMI.

                                                                                I *hate* exercising, but this program kept me motivated. Like I say - we followed it religiously for the first 2 months, then slowly started slacking off cuz we were happy w/ the results. Highly recommend it!




                                                                                Exactly!! I couldn't believe the amount of food they were having me eat on P90X (I believe I was in the 2400 or 2700 calorie category when I started). I had never eaten that much in my life - it was tough to choke it all down!! BUT - like DLXphil says - the weight came off!
                                                                                gotta love tony! i've done p90x once a year for the past 3 years, will be starting it again in ~2 weeks. it is a system that i find motivates me as well. i experienced the same losses in bf %s, going as low as 16%, which was frustrating for me, every time i want to get it much lower.

                                                                                so this year i dieted 1st, now my bf is 11% as i go into a p90x plan, goal is 8-9% bf.

                                                                                it is a ridiculous amount of exercise, that's why the cals can go down the hatch and fat is still lost.

                                                                                i really think my earlier post suggesting this program is the best way to go, assuming the level of ability allows for an immediate start eh.
                                                                                Last edited by dyna mo; 02-24-2010, 02:26 PM.

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                                                                                • La_Sexorcist
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                                                                                  • Feb 2010
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I recommend Weight Watchers (portion control point system) and cardio! Good luck and congrats.

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                                                                                  • StrokeKing
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                                                                                    • May 2008
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    i dont have diet or exercise program but this is work for me.
                                                                                    replace soda with water, fruit and veggies, jogging and swimming.
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                                                                                    • davecummings
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                                                                                      #43
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                                                                                      • acctman
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        daily calories intake cut it in half... 2000 calories and 500 fat calories stay under that, trust me its hard at first but once you figure out what not to eat ie candy bars, mcds, bk, pizzas, etc... it becomes easy. also cut out soda and juices with over 10g sugar per bottle. i eat about 1500 cal and around 300-400 fat cals a day. 15min workout a day, pullups, pushups and situps on a yoga ball. its a regular thing for me everyday so once you get a set routine down and just check the cals on food prior to eating you should be fine.

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                                                                                          #45
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                                                                                          • Martin
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Go for a walk every night before bed. You'll be surprised.

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                                                                                            • PastorSinAlot
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                                                                                              • Jun 2007
                                                                                              • 2837

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              if you want to lose weight and get in best shape of your life
                                                                                              P90x

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                                                                                              • MarcFromTheDarc
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                                                                                                • Jul 2006
                                                                                                • 31

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                eat chicken and fish. salads, lots of veggies. no red meat. no soda. keep away from salt.

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                                                                                                • jgabra62
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                                                                                                  • Nov 2006
                                                                                                  • 1396

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by DLXphil
                                                                                                  dyna u have to realize putting a grown man on such a caloric deficit will put his body into starvation mode. While on paper its correct, your body just doesnt work like that. I cant even begin to imagine the amount of muscle lost on that low of a caloric intake let alone how bad his energy level will be. A friend of mine who i trained started off about 165, at 5'7 she was a girl, obviously a little heavy, she was on 1600 cals a day and now sits at 125 pounds. The lower u go with the calories the worse it will be, he needs more frequent meals, id say about 2000-2200 calories, 400 calories a meal 5 times a day. thats more than enough to keep you full, and you will lose weight. Losing that amount of weight in 90 days without clenbuterol, steroids, ect and still maintain a healthy physique is close to impossible.
                                                                                                  This sounds pretty reasonable...
                                                                                                  I'm also very interested in checking this P90x thingy you all are talking about.
                                                                                                  I've never heard of it, but sounds intriguing.

                                                                                                  Thanks so much!
                                                                                                  Joey 'J-Gabz' Gabra
                                                                                                  NMS Productions USA, LLC

                                                                                                  [email protected]
                                                                                                  Skype: jgabra62

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                                                                                                  • jgabra62
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                                                                                                    • Nov 2006
                                                                                                    • 1396

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Thanks for all the input guys! I'll keep you posted on my weight loss progress as I get closer to my wedding day.
                                                                                                    Joey 'J-Gabz' Gabra
                                                                                                    NMS Productions USA, LLC

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