Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama?
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In all reality from the little I've seen of Barak I liked his speeches, but haven't really followed what he has done. I just haven't seen enough of him to know if he'd be a good presidant.
Hillary on the other hand, I just get the whole she would stab you in the back feeling from her. But who knows maybe Bill would bitch slap her and keep her in check.In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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RE: Obama,In all reality from the little I've seen of Barak I liked his speeches, but haven't really followed what he has done. I just haven't seen enough of him to know if he'd be a good presidant.
Hillary on the other hand, I just get the whole she would stab you in the back feeling from her. But who knows maybe Bill would bitch slap her and keep her in check.
We just need somebody who can appear in public like they want to work with other people instead of making threats and getting us all killed like Bush.
He doesn't have to do anything else.Done.Comment
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I was thinking the same. No offense to Americans but this thread is a fantastic example of how people in the US vote : not her, she's a cunt; he's a black muslim, not him; etc. The ignorance of the voters means decisions are based on the superficial.
The same thing happens in the UK where I was born.Comment
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I am sorry, I guess I haven't been paying attention. What other black person would you suggest? Lynn Swann?
WTF does that have to do with this discussion?Comment
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A woman or muslim president would probably be a good step in changing racist and sexist views.Comment
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I thought the same when I first heard of him but don't forget he did manage to win his election in Illinois which isn't exactly a left swinging state.I was thinking the same. No offense to Americans but this thread is a fantastic example of how people in the US vote : not her, she's a cunt; he's a black muslim, not him; etc. The ignorance of the voters means decisions are based on the superficial.
The same thing happens in the UK where I was born.In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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Well, there are 35 million African Americans, and 30% of the US population identifies themselves as being in a racial minority, so I reckon he will get a healthy number of votes based on his color alone, despite his inherent abilities. He also has the novelty value of potentially becoming the first black President. Then of course we have Hil getting the female vote and possessing the novelty value of potentially becoming the first female Pres.
IMO, if you had a black female candidate, born in the ghetto, and harvard educated ... I think your money would be safe on her.
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Parents don't send their kids to fight wars. Their kids grow into adults, and choose to join the military, then whoever the Commander and Chief is decides when we need to go to war. Otherwise, the parents of the guys that died in Somalia when Clinton sent them in there without the necessary air support, would have just said no to war.
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I hope so (that one day he does get his chance). Now is DEFINITELY not the time... if he runs now he basically kills any chance he has to run in the future. It's just stupid for him to run now. He has a *slight* chance at the vice presidency (depending on how strong of a candidate is running for the presidency) but even that is pushing it.
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A candidate would be nuts to have a black running mate for the simple reason that he would become an immediate target for an assassin.I hope so (that one day he does get his chance). Now is DEFINITELY not the time... if he runs now he basically kills any chance he has to run in the future. It's just stupid for him to run now. He has a *slight* chance at the vice presidency (depending on how strong of a candidate is running for the presidency) but even that is pushing it.Comment
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baddog, you have been knocking everyones ideas/opinions out in this thread, please lay your thoughts out about this issueWebmasterchecks Affiliate Payments - fully compatible with nats/mpa3Comment
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Really? The VP or the president? I mean if they took out the president then the black guy becomes president, or do you mean more the lines of the assassinators want the black VP to become president?
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Oh dear, did I offend your sensibilities by using a big word? How pretentious of me, I know.
Inherent:
1. existing in someone or something as a permanent and inseparable element, quality, or attribute: an inherent distrust of strangers.
It means exactly what I think it means.
You really think you can educate me? Now that would be a neat trick indeed.
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Here's another word for you : captious.
What a silly old cunt you are to pick me up on a word - especially when it was the correct word. I've written more pages of books and screenplays than you've scratched your balls.
Time for bed.
Captious dick
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This is precisely why the 19th Amendment was a mistake.Oh dear, did I offend your sensibilities by using a big word? How pretentious of me, I know.
Inherent:
1. existing in someone or something as a permanent and inseparable element, quality, or attribute: an inherent distrust of strangers.
It means exactly what I think it means.
You really think you can educate me? Now that would be a neat trick indeed.

What inherent abilities does he have that makes him qualified to be president? Besides being born in the US and being over 35.Comment
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You see, you're much more pleasant when you drop the arrogance. I'm highly educated and utterly loathe it when someone lumps me in with the typical gfy imbecile who left school at 10 to sell crack and steal car radios.
In answer to your question, I'm not a supporter of Obama, but I would suggest some of his inherent abilities would be skill as an orator, intelligence (I believe he graduated from law school), and a flair for his chosen profession - given his age which, ironically, will probably be the downfall of his current campaign.Last edited by Kristian; 01-20-2007, 06:35 PM.Comment
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Hey don't forget that along with some muslim exposure as a child, Obama was raised by an atheist mother, his grandfather was also an atheist or some kind of freethinker if I remember correctly.
Obama is a liberal christian, not a muslim. And at that, it's probably more or less for the public eye, Obama acts more like an atheist or freethinker in his defense of separation of church and state and tolerance towards freethinkers. I'd go as far as to say, I bet that privately, he doesn't pray to any tooth fairies in the sky.
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Yeah, all the highly educated women in my life use the word "cunt" on a regular basis.
Graduating from law school and being good at public speaking means Johnnie Cochran would be a viable candidate in your eyes.
In answer to your question, I'm not a supporter of Obama, but I would suggest some of his inherent abilities would be skill as an orator, intelligence (I believe he graduated from law school), and a flair for his chosen profession - given his age which, ironically, will probably be the downfall of his current campaign.
What about Jesse Jackson?Comment
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from snopes.com:
Barack Obama's father was a Muslim from Kenya, but, according to Barack, his father was no longer actively practicing Islam by the time he married. In any case, Barack had virtually no contact with his father, as his parents split up when he was two years old, and he was raised by his mother, a non-religious woman from Kansas.
Barack Obama identifies himself as a Christian, and his association with the United Church of Christ began in the mid-1980s, well before his entry into politics.
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United CofC is a liberal as it gets. I personally know some U C of Cers' and 3 out of the 5 I know are either agnostics or atheists. Church and Jesus are out of "service" to their community like feeding the poor and stuff like that. None of them take the Bible literally, and of course the 3 who are freethinkers don't believe in a real Jesus at all, he's just a metaphor for "good deeds."
Obama is a freethinker, through and through. I've heard him defend separation of church and state and it's the kind of talk you hear from freethinkers not like the godidiots we have in office now.Comment
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No offense but the same shit was said about Reagan at the time. He won best president ever what 2 years ago.
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I use the word cunt so, therefore, I'm not well educated.
You're such a smart man.

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Since he is running for office, those are inherent abilities that will be of help. Your argument is spurious.Last edited by Kristian; 01-21-2007, 02:45 AM.Comment
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The above statement will be insufficient reason to blast through your expected barrage of off-topic and spurious remarks, so I think I had better state it as simple as possible, so even a stupid cunt like yourself can understand.
The sentence that got your panties in a bunch:
Well, there are 35 million African Americans, and 30% of the US population identifies themselves as being in a racial minority, so I reckon he will get a healthy number of votes based on his color alone, despite his inherent abilities.
It was my attempt not to sound racist by saying Obama will get a large majority of the minority vote because he, himself, is part of the minority, but that in no way means he fails to bring skills and abilities to the table.
Do you see now?
I was not inferring that any well-educated Black man could run for office. I was simply saying that this black man would get the black vote whilst also bringing his own God-given talents to his chosen profession.
In conclusion baddog, your remarks toward me have been inaccurate and hostile. If I respond by calling you a silly old cunt, I think I can be forgiven.
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Muslims do their best to assimilate before they commit acts of terror.Hey don't forget that along with some muslim exposure as a child, Obama was raised by an atheist mother, his grandfather was also an atheist or some kind of freethinker if I remember correctly.
Obama is a liberal christian, not a muslim. And at that, it's probably more or less for the public eye, Obama acts more like an atheist or freethinker in his defense of separation of church and state and tolerance towards freethinkers. I'd go as far as to say, I bet that privately, he doesn't pray to any tooth fairies in the sky.

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Denial, no Im in reality. I just remember what people used to say about Reagan. Difference then was we didnt have 24 hour news channels, and the internet to bash him with. If Reagan would of been pres in the time we are in now he would of been satan and hitler combined. Anyone who doesnt realize that is in a full state of denial. Imagine what people would of had to say about Lincoln now adays. How many of our own men did he kill? How about any other war time president? If we had the internet and super cool sleuths like the loose change guys... What then? Some people just dont get whats going on. lolComment




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