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  • interracialtoons
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    #51
    50 non-voting-mofos talking shit.



    Originally posted by RawAlex
    McCain I don't think has a chance. He doesn't have the charisma factor that allows him to stand up and make the speeches that truly make a difference. He is effectively a republican Mike Dukakis, nice guy but with all the charisma of stale cheese.

    Both Hillary and Obama have the ability to make speeches that make people notice, make people care, and make people related and agree. That is a huge part of the process of getting elected.
    I don't think McCain will even be around after the republican primary.
    His suporrting the Iraq troop surge that will certainly fail will be the nail in his coffin in the polictical debates to come.
    Last edited by interracialtoons; 01-20-2007, 10:42 AM. Reason: 50
    Done.

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    • sweetcuties
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      #52
      I wonder if the people that are so pro Bush would send their sons or daughters to fight

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      • interracialtoons
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        #53
        Originally posted by edgeprod
        Term limits.


        BraaaaaaHAHAHAHA!
        Done.

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        • crockett
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          #54
          In all reality from the little I've seen of Barak I liked his speeches, but haven't really followed what he has done. I just haven't seen enough of him to know if he'd be a good presidant.

          Hillary on the other hand, I just get the whole she would stab you in the back feeling from her. But who knows maybe Bill would bitch slap her and keep her in check.
          In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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          • crockett
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            #55
            Also McCain for the Republicans would be stupid as well.. he's jumped ship when the going got ruff that shows about all I need to see of him.
            In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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            • interracialtoons
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              #56
              Originally posted by crockett
              In all reality from the little I've seen of Barak I liked his speeches, but haven't really followed what he has done. I just haven't seen enough of him to know if he'd be a good presidant.

              Hillary on the other hand, I just get the whole she would stab you in the back feeling from her. But who knows maybe Bill would bitch slap her and keep her in check.
              RE: Obama,

              We just need somebody who can appear in public like they want to work with other people instead of making threats and getting us all killed like Bush.

              He doesn't have to do anything else.
              Done.

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              • Kristian
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                #57
                Originally posted by BusterPorn
                u should add middle names in there - Barak Osama Bin Laden oops I mean Obama. As silly as it is he will never be US President with a name like that.
                I was thinking the same. No offense to Americans but this thread is a fantastic example of how people in the US vote : not her, she's a cunt; he's a black muslim, not him; etc. The ignorance of the voters means decisions are based on the superficial.

                The same thing happens in the UK where I was born.

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                • baddog
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by interracialtoons
                  That's interesting, with all the black people to chose from he was chosen because he was black. Thanks for making me see the light.
                  I am sorry, I guess I haven't been paying attention. What other black person would you suggest? Lynn Swann?


                  Originally posted by sweetcuties
                  When the history books are written, Bush will go down as one of the worst Presidents in American history. Most Americans can see it and so can the rest of the world. The funniest thing is that some of you actually believe him, lol
                  WTF does that have to do with this discussion?

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                  • baddog
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by sweetcuties
                    I wonder if the people that are so pro Bush would send their sons or daughters to fight
                    WTF are you talking about?

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                    • stev0
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by sweetcuties
                      America is changing for the better and I would vote for a woman or minority candidate. Even tho we still have racism, sexism and a ton of narrowminded bigots, sooner or later we'll have a minority or woman in the top spot
                      A woman or muslim president would probably be a good step in changing racist and sexist views.

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                      • crockett
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                        #61
                        Originally posted by Kristian
                        I was thinking the same. No offense to Americans but this thread is a fantastic example of how people in the US vote : not her, she's a cunt; he's a black muslim, not him; etc. The ignorance of the voters means decisions are based on the superficial.

                        The same thing happens in the UK where I was born.
                        I thought the same when I first heard of him but don't forget he did manage to win his election in Illinois which isn't exactly a left swinging state.
                        In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                        • Kristian
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                          #62
                          Originally posted by crockett
                          I thought the same when I first heard of him but don't forget he did manage to win his election in Illinois which isn't exactly a left swinging state.
                          Well, there are 35 million African Americans, and 30% of the US population identifies themselves as being in a racial minority, so I reckon he will get a healthy number of votes based on his color alone, despite his inherent abilities. He also has the novelty value of potentially becoming the first black President. Then of course we have Hil getting the female vote and possessing the novelty value of potentially becoming the first female Pres.

                          IMO, if you had a black female candidate, born in the ghetto, and harvard educated ... I think your money would be safe on her.

                          Interesting times!

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                            #63
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                            • starpimps
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                              #64
                              Originally posted by SAC
                              one has a lack of experience - one is just a fucking cunt....can i have another option please
                              ahahahhaha so true
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                              • edgeprod
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                                #65
                                Originally posted by Nazgrel
                                Hillary Clinton - 2008 - 2016
                                Barak Obama - 2016 - 2024
                                Unnamed Democrat Black Woman 2024 - 2032

                                But, Im not an American so who cares what I think..
                                That could have been left unsaid, and pulled solely from your post.

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                                • scardog
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                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by sweetcuties
                                  I wonder if the people that are so pro Bush would send their sons or daughters to fight
                                  Parents don't send their kids to fight wars. Their kids grow into adults, and choose to join the military, then whoever the Commander and Chief is decides when we need to go to war. Otherwise, the parents of the guys that died in Somalia when Clinton sent them in there without the necessary air support, would have just said no to war.

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                                  • baddog
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                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Kristian
                                    so I reckon he will get a healthy number of votes based on his color alone, despite his inherent abilities.
                                    And I reckon that inherent doesn't mean what you think it does.

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                                    • notabook
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                                      #68
                                      Definitely Obama over Hillary though neither has a shot at the presidency.

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                                      • scardog
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                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by sweetcuties
                                        I wonder if the people that are so pro Bush would send their sons or daughters to fight

                                        I wonder if people that are pro porn would send their daughters to be porn stars.

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                                        • baddog
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                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by notabook
                                          Definitely Obama over Hillary though neither has a shot at the presidency.
                                          I like Obama, and feel he may get the nod in 2016, but not before then.

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                                          • notabook
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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                            I like Obama, and feel he may get the nod in 2016, but not before then.
                                            I hope so (that one day he does get his chance). Now is DEFINITELY not the time... if he runs now he basically kills any chance he has to run in the future. It's just stupid for him to run now. He has a *slight* chance at the vice presidency (depending on how strong of a candidate is running for the presidency) but even that is pushing it.

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                                            • baddog
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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by notabook
                                              I hope so (that one day he does get his chance). Now is DEFINITELY not the time... if he runs now he basically kills any chance he has to run in the future. It's just stupid for him to run now. He has a *slight* chance at the vice presidency (depending on how strong of a candidate is running for the presidency) but even that is pushing it.
                                              A candidate would be nuts to have a black running mate for the simple reason that he would become an immediate target for an assassin.

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                                              • webmasterchecks
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                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by interracialtoons
                                                That's interesting, with all the black people to chose from he was chosen because he was black.
                                                this is the guy that was drawn for VP


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                                                • Spunky
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                                                  #74
                                                  Hillary Clinton by a TD

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                                                  • webmasterchecks
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                                                    #75
                                                    baddog, you have been knocking everyones ideas/opinions out in this thread, please lay your thoughts out about this issue
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                                                    • notabook
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                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                      A candidate would be nuts to have a black running mate for the simple reason that he would become an immediate target for an assassin.
                                                      Really? The VP or the president? I mean if they took out the president then the black guy becomes president, or do you mean more the lines of the assassinators want the black VP to become president?

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                                                      • Kristian
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                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                        And I reckon that inherent doesn't mean what you think it does.
                                                        Oh dear, did I offend your sensibilities by using a big word? How pretentious of me, I know.

                                                        Inherent:

                                                        1. existing in someone or something as a permanent and inseparable element, quality, or attribute: an inherent distrust of strangers.


                                                        It means exactly what I think it means.

                                                        You really think you can educate me? Now that would be a neat trick indeed.

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                                                        • Kristian
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                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                          And I reckon that inherent doesn't mean what you think it does.
                                                          Here's another word for you : captious.

                                                          What a silly old cunt you are to pick me up on a word - especially when it was the correct word. I've written more pages of books and screenplays than you've scratched your balls.

                                                          Time for bed.

                                                          Captious dick .

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                                                          • baddog
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                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by notabook
                                                            or do you mean more the lines of the assassinators want the black VP to become president?
                                                            that would be it

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                                                            • baddog
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                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by Kristian
                                                              Oh dear, did I offend your sensibilities by using a big word? How pretentious of me, I know.

                                                              Inherent:

                                                              1. existing in someone or something as a permanent and inseparable element, quality, or attribute: an inherent distrust of strangers.


                                                              It means exactly what I think it means.

                                                              You really think you can educate me? Now that would be a neat trick indeed.

                                                              This is precisely why the 19th Amendment was a mistake.

                                                              What inherent abilities does he have that makes him qualified to be president? Besides being born in the US and being over 35.

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                                                              • notabook
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                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                                that would be it
                                                                Wow, that's one way of getting a black man into power hahaha

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                                                                • baddog
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by THEMASKEDRIDER
                                                                  baddog, you have been knocking everyones ideas/opinions out in this thread, please lay your thoughts out about this issue
                                                                  I have yet to see a democrat put his hat into the ring that stands a chance. I will let you know when it happens.

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                                                                  • baddog
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                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by notabook
                                                                    Wow, that's one way of getting a black man into power hahaha
                                                                    Or they can wait 8 years.

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                                                                    • Contra
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                                                                      #84
                                                                      I don’t know if it really matters.

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                                                                      • Kristian
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                                        This is precisely why the 19th Amendment was a mistake.

                                                                        What inherent abilities does he have that makes him qualified to be president? Besides being born in the US and being over 35.
                                                                        You see, you're much more pleasant when you drop the arrogance. I'm highly educated and utterly loathe it when someone lumps me in with the typical gfy imbecile who left school at 10 to sell crack and steal car radios.

                                                                        In answer to your question, I'm not a supporter of Obama, but I would suggest some of his inherent abilities would be skill as an orator, intelligence (I believe he graduated from law school), and a flair for his chosen profession - given his age which, ironically, will probably be the downfall of his current campaign.
                                                                        Last edited by Kristian; 01-20-2007, 06:35 PM.

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                                                                        • Kristian
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          Going to bed. Shattered. Anyone else wants to be a cunt with me, I'll hand you your ass in the morning. G'night.

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                                                                          • theruyan
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                                                                            #87
                                                                            Hey don't forget that along with some muslim exposure as a child, Obama was raised by an atheist mother, his grandfather was also an atheist or some kind of freethinker if I remember correctly.

                                                                            Obama is a liberal christian, not a muslim. And at that, it's probably more or less for the public eye, Obama acts more like an atheist or freethinker in his defense of separation of church and state and tolerance towards freethinkers. I'd go as far as to say, I bet that privately, he doesn't pray to any tooth fairies in the sky.

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                                                                            • wyldworx
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              Hillary, but i do not dwell inthe us, she just seems to be a lovely spirited woman, and a rock!

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                                                                              • baddog
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                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by Kristian
                                                                                You see, you're much more pleasant when you drop the arrogance. I'm highly educated and utterly loathe it when someone lumps me in with the typical gfy imbecile who left school at 10 to sell crack and steal car radios.
                                                                                Yeah, all the highly educated women in my life use the word "cunt" on a regular basis.


                                                                                In answer to your question, I'm not a supporter of Obama, but I would suggest some of his inherent abilities would be skill as an orator, intelligence (I believe he graduated from law school), and a flair for his chosen profession - given his age which, ironically, will probably be the downfall of his current campaign.
                                                                                Graduating from law school and being good at public speaking means Johnnie Cochran would be a viable candidate in your eyes.

                                                                                What about Jesse Jackson?

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                                                                                • theruyan
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  from snopes.com:

                                                                                  Barack Obama's father was a Muslim from Kenya, but, according to Barack, his father was no longer actively practicing Islam by the time he married. In any case, Barack had virtually no contact with his father, as his parents split up when he was two years old, and he was raised by his mother, a non-religious woman from Kansas.

                                                                                  Barack Obama identifies himself as a Christian, and his association with the United Church of Christ began in the mid-1980s, well before his entry into politics.
                                                                                  -------------
                                                                                  United CofC is a liberal as it gets. I personally know some U C of Cers' and 3 out of the 5 I know are either agnostics or atheists. Church and Jesus are out of "service" to their community like feeding the poor and stuff like that. None of them take the Bible literally, and of course the 3 who are freethinkers don't believe in a real Jesus at all, he's just a metaphor for "good deeds."

                                                                                  Obama is a freethinker, through and through. I've heard him defend separation of church and state and it's the kind of talk you hear from freethinkers not like the godidiots we have in office now.

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                                                                                  • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by sweetcuties
                                                                                    When the history books are written, Bush will go down as one of the worst Presidents in American history. Most Americans can see it and so can the rest of the world. The funniest thing is that some of you actually believe him, lol

                                                                                    No offense but the same shit was said about Reagan at the time. He won best president ever what 2 years ago.

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                                                                                    • spanky part 2
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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                      Al Gore is a nutjob. He did a ton of looney stuff between his loss in 2000 and now. Not a chance in hell.
                                                                                      Our current pres is a nutjob and has done a ton of loony stuff between 2000 and now, plus his shit has gotten people killed. What exactly is your point?

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                                                                                      • spanky part 2
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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                        No offense but the same shit was said about Reagan at the time. He won best president ever what 2 years ago.
                                                                                        Man you are living in a very strange place called denial.

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                                                                                        • Kristian
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                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                          Yeah, all the highly educated women in my life use the word "cunt" on a regular basis.



                                                                                          Graduating from law school and being good at public speaking means Johnnie Cochran would be a viable candidate in your eyes.

                                                                                          What about Jesse Jackson?
                                                                                          I use the word cunt so, therefore, I'm not well educated.

                                                                                          You're such a smart man.



                                                                                          p.s

                                                                                          Since he is running for office, those are inherent abilities that will be of help. Your argument is spurious.
                                                                                          Last edited by Kristian; 01-21-2007, 02:45 AM.

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                                                                                          • pike86
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            I would vote for Hillary Clinton,why is that bad!

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                                                                                            • Kristian
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by Kristian
                                                                                              I use the word cunt so, therefore, I'm not well educated.

                                                                                              You're such a smart man.



                                                                                              p.s

                                                                                              Since he is running for office, those are inherent abilities that will be of help. Your argument is spurious.
                                                                                              The above statement will be insufficient reason to blast through your expected barrage of off-topic and spurious remarks, so I think I had better state it as simple as possible, so even a stupid cunt like yourself can understand.

                                                                                              The sentence that got your panties in a bunch:

                                                                                              Well, there are 35 million African Americans, and 30% of the US population identifies themselves as being in a racial minority, so I reckon he will get a healthy number of votes based on his color alone, despite his inherent abilities.

                                                                                              It was my attempt not to sound racist by saying Obama will get a large majority of the minority vote because he, himself, is part of the minority, but that in no way means he fails to bring skills and abilities to the table.

                                                                                              Do you see now?

                                                                                              I was not inferring that any well-educated Black man could run for office. I was simply saying that this black man would get the black vote whilst also bringing his own God-given talents to his chosen profession.

                                                                                              In conclusion baddog, your remarks toward me have been inaccurate and hostile. If I respond by calling you a silly old cunt, I think I can be forgiven.

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                                                                                              • SoftFocus
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                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by SAC
                                                                                                one has a lack of experience - one is just a fucking cunt....can i have another option please

                                                                                                Joe Biden!!


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                                                                                                • Klen
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                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Vote for Hillary!

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                                                                                                  • scardog
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                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by theruyan
                                                                                                    Hey don't forget that along with some muslim exposure as a child, Obama was raised by an atheist mother, his grandfather was also an atheist or some kind of freethinker if I remember correctly.

                                                                                                    Obama is a liberal christian, not a muslim. And at that, it's probably more or less for the public eye, Obama acts more like an atheist or freethinker in his defense of separation of church and state and tolerance towards freethinkers. I'd go as far as to say, I bet that privately, he doesn't pray to any tooth fairies in the sky.
                                                                                                    Muslims do their best to assimilate before they commit acts of terror.

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                                                                                                    • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by spanky part 2
                                                                                                      Man you are living in a very strange place called denial.
                                                                                                      Denial, no Im in reality. I just remember what people used to say about Reagan. Difference then was we didnt have 24 hour news channels, and the internet to bash him with. If Reagan would of been pres in the time we are in now he would of been satan and hitler combined. Anyone who doesnt realize that is in a full state of denial. Imagine what people would of had to say about Lincoln now adays. How many of our own men did he kill? How about any other war time president? If we had the internet and super cool sleuths like the loose change guys... What then? Some people just dont get whats going on. lol

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