I am looking for someone with their own gaming opertion,who knows what they are doing

Think you may be surprised how large the successful gaming companies are Rarely would they waste time around here and too busy running their operations with staffing levels of several thousand and earning more than any adult webmaster/corp on GFY.

PS On a personal level - re US citizenship - not a good idea right now. I know a fair number of US folks who were associated with gaming (and totally innocent parties in this and not even principals), who are on a wanted list for association, but have no interest in returning to the US to end up in a jail cell.

I understand what you are saying but it is not like I am trying to contact party poker here. I am sure there are some med to small successful gaming operations who either are involved with adult, read this board, or someone who reads this board knows one of these people and can either have them contact me or give me their contact info. For example doesn't 2bet run his own poker site? Perhaps since he is involved in that industry he may know someone looking to take on a big new project.

This is a really good idea that NO one is taping into. I also believe that most of it is boarder line legal in US, kind of a grey area, it's not an online casino or like party poker but it still involves gaming. My best fit for this would be to set them up, and do consulting.

Got ya! Not sure there are many smallish units left now - 99.9% are corps who pay license fees to govts and have to be "biggish" to cover all the overheads. Some of the guys I know of locally - one has a few mill of comms gear on the roof and 4000 staff - another is small but still in the $6mill/month revenue level and a lot of diverse promotion going on. Tho it may be illegal under US law - it has been a maturing industry since it started.

There is the sportbook side which does have a number of smaller units, tho the "quality" of this area can vary widely - down to a few guys in a large house with 50 phone lines (they are not really of the same breed as online casino operations).

AH... Noticed your email in your sig - I meet up with casino folks fairly often and will pass your email to the relevent people as I come across them

Thanks and your reply here was exactly what i was looking for. I am not involved in this industry and don't know anyone to contact.

Anyone else ?

Will... not sure if online stuff is more fitting to your idea than sportsbooks, but if it is, suggest you drop an email to bizdev AT bingo.com.

Bingo is one of these odd games that technically can fall outside gaming laws (depending on the jurisdiction) and may be something safer for you to pursue.

Do people under 60 play bingo ? Bingo I think would be a tough market to crack online, your core group of players don't know how to use a computer muchless own one. I am sure some people play but I don't think the market for it is extremely large.

My idea is kinda along those lines as far as the laws go, but has a much bigger market potential. Anyway, I will discuss a little more with you if you want to hit me up on ICQ but I don't want to give too many hints online.

Bad timing bro..

A lot of people are getting out..

Either already have in the last few months, or are looking to.
Many books selling, or closeing. Some gettting shut down.

Processing has really been a huge hurdle...

Not to mention a lot of the processors exiting in the same fashon as of late.

wwts and pinny are prime examples of people getting out of the main game

Common concept, and I thought the same There is good reason why bingo does just nicely - one being the odd category it falls into and is accepted in a number of jurisdictions as being legal blah. That in turn means avenues of promotion are more open - ie TV and co-promo deals with companies who otherwise would not consider it.

Over the last few years bingo has seen amazing growth online and there are all sorts of co-deals being done. One is with airlines where passengers can dump more revenue into the pot while they play during flying time.

I've never bothered trying to estimate the adult market online - who knows? But from other assorted operations (and this is still an rough estimate), the gaming industry has a lot of leeway to play with yet, despite restrictions on the US market. Even small elements add up... eg moble phone based casino games were neglible even a year ago, but estimated to be worth around $10billion in the next couple of years and one particular operation took $4mill in a day on phone-based casino gaming - so prospects are there.

This is where gaming "appears" to have headway over adult - every game is almost an industry in itself. High profile games, poker etc supposedly have revenues of $50 - $60 billion/annually. This is also an industry which does a lot of market research - something which is almost a waste of time doing in the adult industry.

It's prob worth shooting an email to the place suggested - the guys were neighbors, but out of country at the moment. They (and the industry generally) are very familiar with angles and avenues of promo, so would be inclined to introduce at a level which does not disclose too much till you meet and possibly do a deal. The other factor is, if the scenario possibly gets close to violating US law, there may be some reluctance from some, others will not give a damn - especially if there are no US citizens involved.

True boneprone!

There are a fair number getting out - tho this appears to be where there was a great dependency on the US market. Can think of one operation who dumped around 4000 staff here and.. can't remember, another 2000 in another location. But, the European, Asian, Centro America and South American offices remain open and doing OK.

doing a bit more than ok - growth is increasing rapidly

Well.. yea More than just OK!

you have msn? or skype?

ICQ? Think you can access via MSN? 8027309

Wondering if we know each other already?

Bumping this to see if anyone here owns a gambling site or knows someone that does they can put me in touch with.

Will's told me what this concept is...I have to agree it's pretty fucking good.

Any gaming site owners out there, hit him up. It's press/digg/buzz worthy.

Thanks Man. I need to find someone to do this. I gave you the over view too, there is a lot more too it. more cool stuff.

If i wasn't married and had family here I would say fuck it, move to Costa Rica and due this myself. Damn US laws

I need someone that owns a casino, so they are familar with how this stuff works, has the banking and processing part worked out already, has the employees, existing site with customer base,etc... Create a site for my idea, it would be party poker huge. Just need someone with what I mentioned above and the time and desire to head up a really innovative project that WILL make a ton of fucking money.

there's gotta be someone out here with the necessary qualification. If I had what was needed I would definitely hit Will up about this.

Are you strictly looking for someone on the casino side or would the sportsbook side also work?

as long as it was involved with gambling.

The main thing that needs to be in place for something like this is the ability to process the funds. If they own a site that is gambling related and can handle the transactions then they would be fine to do this.

Idealy I would like to find someone with a lot of experience in this industry, existing website with customer base would be a plus, programmers on staff etc.. I've read the gambling sites get hack attempts daily, stuff like that I know nothing about so if they run a decent size operation I am sure they would know all the ins and outs of the industry.

There was a time they used to get huge DDOS attacks during football season from Russians looking for extortion money, and a lot of them used to pay to get their sites back up rather than be down on a busy college football Saturday.

I'll send you an e-mail in the morning and put you in touch with a friend that runs Who2BetOn.com. At one point they were owned by Betcom (who owned WSEX.com and a few other books) and they still work closely with Bet Jamaica, Pinnacle, and a lot of the other big books (they are located in Canada).

cool thanks.