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  • nation-x
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    #201
    Originally posted by BV
    I'm sorry, i just scanned this thread

    but is 12clicks saying that he believes in god or some other greater power that created life?

    hmmm, i had him pegged different
    seriously?

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    • POed-poster
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      #202
      Originally posted by NoComments
      Evolution Less Accepted in U.S. Than Other Western Countries, Study Finds
      http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...evolution.html

      Nice, USA beat Turkey!
      (unfortunately, nobody else)

      This shows that the best University system in the world exists in a country with the largest amount of idiot redneck morons. Americans are SO FUCKING STUPID.
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      • Smut
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        #203
        Life is energy. It cannot be created, nor destroyed. It can only be transformed.

        2c

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        • POed-poster
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          #204
          Originally posted by Smut
          Life is energy. It cannot be created, nor destroyed. It can only be transformed.

          2c
          So we all have existed from the beginning of the Universe and will exist until the end of the universe? Any proof for that?
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          • Smut
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            #205
            Originally posted by POed-poster
            So we all have existed from the beginning of the Universe and will exist until the end of the universe? Any proof for that?
            In one form or another. Sure.

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            • POed-poster
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              #206
              Originally posted by Smut
              In one form or another. Sure.
              Prove it!
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              • Relentless
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                #207
                Religion is not the proof that something is unknowable.
                Religion is the decision to stop looking for the answers and remain ignorant.

                Something to think about...


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                • Smut
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                  #208
                  Originally posted by POed-poster
                  Prove it!
                  Ok, off yourself, then I will watch your energy dissipate into the atmosphere on a heat sensor, while your carcass turns into food for the worms, giving them energy to reproduce and carry on with their lives. I will leave you the results of my findings on your dirt pile so you can read it from wherever it is that energy goes after this place.

                  It's simple science. I don't know why you don't get this. I think they teach it in Grade 1.

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                  • Robbie
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by Smut
                    Ok, off yourself, then I will watch your energy dissipate into the atmosphere on a heat sensor, while your carcass turns into food for the worms, giving them energy to reproduce and carry on with their lives. I will leave you the results of my findings on your dirt pile so you can read it from wherever it is that energy goes after this place.

                    It's simple science. I don't know why you don't get this. I think they teach it in Grade 1.
                    The problem with that is: If I don't have any conscious awareness of it...then I'm really just dead and that's that.

                    Doesn't matter if my carcass is turned into energy for other things when they eat me. At least it doesn't matter to me. lol

                    When our life is over we are done. That's it.

                    I'm hoping that medicine will get to the point where they can regenerate brain cells. And then perform successful brain transplants. Then just clone my body a few times and keep inserting my brain in fresh 18 year old "Robbies" every few decades.

                    Fuck dying then! lol
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                    • Agent 488
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                      #210

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                      • GregE
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                        #211
                        Originally posted by POed-poster
                        So we all have existed from the beginning of the Universe and will exist until the end of the universe? Any proof for that?
                        Actually, if you believe in the big bang theory there is no beginning and there is no end.

                        Our Universe was preceded by another one and hundreds of billions of years before that by yet another one and before that another one. Forever and ever backwards and forever and ever forwards the energy that constitutes the Universe is a ceaseless constant.

                        If there's a higher power, that's it.

                        Somehow though I don't think it keeps score on who goes to church on Sundays.

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                        • Agent 488
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                          #212

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                          • SmokeyTheBear
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                            #213
                            Originally posted by TheDoc
                            They can duplicate any object/element if they know the process it takes to create it or have the mathematical pattern of the object.
                            In theory yes , in actuality no. We know the process behind the creation of the sun, yet we can't create a sun. Does this mean god made the sun , or does it mean we just cant recreate it yet.

                            The original post by 12clicks eluded to the fact because we cant recreate life from scratch that it must be god.

                            http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20249628/

                            We are on the verge of creating life., the original post is incorrect, we do have some idea, the fact we haven't completed the task does not hint in any way to me there is a god. on the flipside recreating life from scratch also doesn't hint in any way there is no god either.
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                            • SmokeyTheBear
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                              #214
                              Originally posted by epitome
                              12clicks could start a thread with the first post merely saying "I just farted" and it'd still get to at least 5 pages.

                              Few people here could accomplish that.
                              so could hitler or a talking donkey.. but i wouldn't give either of them brownie points ok ok maybe i would give the donkey a few points.
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                                #215
                                Originally posted by Agent 488

                                What that?
                                12 clicks return to "papa"?
                                ;)
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                                • KILL_FRENZY
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                                  #216
                                  Man, these religious arguments NEVER lead anywhere.
                                  It's why crusades and holy wars ( I know it's an oxymoron ) were fought and tens of thousand were killed in the Inquisition and lots of hot chicks were tortured and burned.

                                  The idea of just believe and do not seek answers instigates to this attitude and religions arguments always seek to divide rather then unite. Besides it's great to have them believe in God, what would happen if they believed in...killing Jews for instance?

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                                    #217
                                    Originally posted by papill0n
                                    Life evolved over millions of years - not one year not 100 years but millions and millions of years. Your question is redundant at this stage of evolution as we have no means of existing and thus carrying out scientific observation for such great lengths of time.

                                    Not to mention the composition of the atmosphere was different, the water chemistry was different, the weather patterns were different - everything was different.

                                    Your question is redundant, poorly thought out and not very thought provoking at all.
                                    Uhh.. Better re-read what he said.. There was no question asked..

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                                    • NoComments
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                                      #218
                                      So, Ron, where were we?
                                      ;)
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                                      • 12clicks
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                                        #219
                                        Originally posted by NoComments
                                        So, Ron, where were we?
                                        ;)
                                        I'm killing a few minutes at the airport but if memory serves, you were about to make a point about my college career and I was going to counter questioning how smart it was to have such a brief career in the easiest business in the world. And then wonder why, 11yrs after a so called happy retirement, you still hand around the boards talking to us dummies.
                                        But I don't have time.
                                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                          #220
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                                            #221
                                            Originally posted by 12clicks
                                            I'm killing a few minutes at the airport but if memory serves, you were about to make a point about my college career and I was going to counter questioning how smart it was to have such a brief career in the easiest business in the world. And then wonder why, 11yrs after a so called happy retirement, you still hand around the boards talking to us dummies.
                                            But I don't have time.

                                            nahh-naah-naahh-naahhnaah!
                                            You won't get out of it this easy!

                                            We were talking about " question for the anti-religious crowd." you asked,
                                            you were answered and were humiliated.

                                            ...and now I'll just put a few nails in the cross you have erected,
                                            as soon as you get back.
                                            ;)
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                                            • mayabong
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                                              #222
                                              I'm not a christian, and I"m not any kind of religion. Most people that are christians were brainwashed by their parents when they were little, or recovering drug addicts out of rehab. That being said, I dont have total faith in science either.. cause it seems like your beliefs in science only go as far as what it can "Prove". Which depends on how far technology has gone. Science has gone back on lots of things that I was taught to be true when I was little.... how much of what you believe today will be proven wrong tomorrow? Exuse me if this post is written crazy the "hypnotizing conversion" banner is right under me and is fucking with my head big time.
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                                              • AtlantisCash
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                                                #223
                                                Originally posted by DudeRick
                                                No, I only attack liberal, big government, tax raising, money wasting, momma's boys (Fags)like you!


                                                Some of You people really have no clue what does Liberal mean, Your constitution's main topic is Liberalism and Freedom of speech and Liberal rights, but Yet some of You idiots flaming liberals.

                                                So what's Your alternative, installing Heaven's kingdom?

                                                i m saying all those while assuming You're from US.
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                                                  #224
                                                  Originally posted by AtlantisCash

                                                  i m saying all those while assuming You're from US.
                                                  Isn't every one the US? Othrewise you are not the we and thus not us. U can not comment on the we without becoming US.
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                                                    #225
                                                    Originally posted by shwsrvcs
                                                    Isn't every one the US? Othrewise you are not the we and thus not us. U can not comment on the we without becoming US.




                                                    i meant some people from United States miss understanding the word "Liberal" and also the Liberalism, i wonder why.
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                                                      #226
                                                      Originally posted by AtlantisCash
                                                      i meant some people from United States miss understanding the word "Liberal" and also the Liberalism, i wonder why.
                                                      Watching too much FOX TV destroys brain cells permanently.
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                                                      • theking
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                                                        #227
                                                        Originally posted by NoComments
                                                        nahh-naah-naahh-naahhnaah!
                                                        You won't get out of it this easy!

                                                        We were talking about " question for the anti-religious crowd." you asked,
                                                        you were answered and were humiliated.

                                                        ...and now I'll just put a few nails in the cross you have erected,
                                                        as soon as you get back.
                                                        ;)
                                                        It appears that he is not going to allow that to happen.
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                                                        • AtlantisCash
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                                                          #228
                                                          Originally posted by NoComments
                                                          Watching too much FOX TV destroys brain cells permanently.



                                                          i also asked this to My friend Who's an American,, He tied it to devision between political parties imho.

                                                          Someone from gfy was keeping this quote on his siggy "

                                                          “You can do whatever you want that doesn’t cause harm to others. I may not choose to join
                                                          you, but I’ll certainly hold your coat while you do it.".
                                                          Halcyon.

                                                          This guy John Halcyon knows the deal, His word pretty sums it up what really being Liberal/Progressive is
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                                                            #229
                                                            Originally posted by theking
                                                            It appears that he is not going to allow that to happen.
                                                            does he have a choice?
                                                            Us, who retired from this business for good, have lots of time on our hands to do whatever pleases us, and poking ignorance pleases me tremendously.

                                                            So, Ron, did you make yourself familiar with:
                                                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

                                                            do you see clearly now that anti religious crowd has a valid point while the religious crowd just puts ignorance on the pedestal?

                                                            Say "I do" and I'll poke you no more.
                                                            ;)
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                                                              #230
                                                              dupe dupe
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                                                                #231
                                                                Originally posted by AtlantisCash
                                                                i also asked this to My friend Who's an American,, He tied it to devision between political parties imho.

                                                                Someone from gfy was keeping this quote on his siggy "

                                                                ?You can do whatever you want that doesn?t cause harm to others. I may not choose to join
                                                                you, but I?ll certainly hold your coat while you do it.".
                                                                Halcyon.

                                                                This guy John Halcyon knows the deal, His word pretty sums it up what really being Liberal/Progressive is

                                                                This is just paraphrasing of the quote
                                                                "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
                                                                which was mistakenly attributed to Voltaire.
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                                                                • CruelMedia
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                                                                  #232
                                                                  Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                  The spark of life is beyond our grasp.
                                                                  and you just believe in "the spark of life"..

                                                                  nothing.. then SPARK.. then Life.. amazing..
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                                                                    #233
                                                                    Originally posted by jostker
                                                                    and you just believe in "the spark of life"..

                                                                    nothing.. then SPARK.. then Life.. amazing..
                                                                    The religious crowd says the world is too complicated to "just happen" by accident,
                                                                    it's too perfect.

                                                                    OK, let's entertain this thought for a moment and assume that this world was created by spark caused by some "entity".
                                                                    Fine.

                                                                    BUT....

                                                                    in order to create this world, the entity should be more advanced than the world.
                                                                    You are with me, so far, right?

                                                                    BUT....

                                                                    in order to create the entity which is more advanced than this world,
                                                                    the SUPER entity must create that entity,
                                                                    which puts the question back into the religious crowd corner:
                                                                    who created and gave spark to SUPER entity and all other entities who created them?

                                                                    What are the origins of God?



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                                                                    • AtlantisCash
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                                                                      #234
                                                                      As a former Muslim, i wanna thank religious crowd from any religion to cold me from the religion issue itself.

                                                                      when it comes to their rights (the religious crowd), they're the most brave freedom warriors around the globe, but when it comes to other's life, guess what happens, fucking hypocrites
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                                                                      • 12clicks
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                                                                        #235
                                                                        Originally posted by AtlantisCash
                                                                        As a former Muslim, i wanna thank religious crowd from any religion to cold me from the religion issue itself.

                                                                        when it comes to their rights (the religious crowd), they're the most brave freedom warriors around the globe, but when it comes to other's life, guess what happens, fucking hypocrites
                                                                        that may be true of the muslim scum but here in the Judeo Christian country of America, we pretty much take care of "other's life" too.
                                                                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                          #236
                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                          that may be true of the muslim scum but here in the Judeo Christian country of America, we pretty much take care of "other's life" too.
                                                                          of course, of course


                                                                          my dear Judeo Christian friend who believes in "sparks"

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                                                                            #237
                                                                            Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                            the Judeo Christian country of America.
                                                                            is now seeking the divorce

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                                                                            • carlsandoval\
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                                                                              #238
                                                                              to the person who started this thread..........there are things you and me do not know, we only know what they want us to know.
                                                                              there is no way you can base your facts on 100% truth. you don't know for sure if they are able to create life or not, there is always something someone is hiding somewhere....you know why?? we are scared of what we don't understand.

                                                                              so before starting idiotic threads like this think not once but 4 times

                                                                              i don't believe in religion, jesus, god, science, evolution and all that crap.

                                                                              i mean i believe we evolve as time goes on but what we evolved from i am uncertain of as many of us are.
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                                                                                #239
                                                                                Originally posted by carlsandoval\

                                                                                i mean i believe we evolve as time goes on but what we evolved from i am uncertain of as many of us are.

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                                                                                I couldn't stop laughing reading your post considering your blog name....
                                                                                some of us "evolved" for sure LOL!!!!!
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                                                                                  #240
                                                                                  Originally posted by carlsandoval\
                                                                                  to the person who started this thread..........there are things you and me do not know, we only know what they want us to know.
                                                                                  there is no way you can base your facts on 100% truth. you don't know for sure if they are able to create life or not, there is always something someone is hiding somewhere....you know why?? we are scared of what we don't understand.

                                                                                  so before starting idiotic threads like this think not once but 4 times

                                                                                  i don't believe in religion, jesus, god, science, evolution and all that crap.

                                                                                  i mean i believe we evolve as time goes on but what we evolved from i am uncertain of as many of us are.
                                                                                  English must be your second language so I'll forgive the idiocy of your post.
                                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                    #241
                                                                                    Carl,




                                                                                    Ron, seems like we done in this thread, feel free to hit me on ICQ and invite me into your next one
                                                                                    ;)
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                                                                                    • 12clicks
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                                                                                      #242
                                                                                      serge, this was a troll gathering thread. I was surprised to find you in the net.
                                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                        #243
                                                                                        Originally posted by NoComments
                                                                                        I couldn't stop laughing reading your post considering your blog name....
                                                                                        some of us "evolved" for sure LOL!!!!!
                                                                                        ;)
                                                                                        touche'.......lol

                                                                                        12clicks there is no idiocy in my post, if you really want to go into attack mode, there is idiocy in your beliefs and by forcing your beliefs onto us NON BELIEVERS is retarded.

                                                                                        and for nocomments again..........i'm not crying...i could care less :D
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                                                                                          #244
                                                                                          Originally posted by carlsandoval\
                                                                                          touche'.......lol

                                                                                          12clicks there is no idiocy in my post, if you really want to go into attack mode, there is idiocy in your beliefs and by forcing your beliefs onto us NON BELIEVERS is retarded.

                                                                                          and for nocomments again..........i'm not crying...i could care less :D
                                                                                          again, dear idiot, I'll forgive you for not understanding what you're reading.

                                                                                          I've forced no beliefs. I posed a thought. You, being small minded but sure of your beliefs, as small as they are, attacked me for what your small mind imagined I was saying.

                                                                                          is that clearer for you?
                                                                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                            #245
                                                                                            Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                            again, dear idiot, I'll forgive you for not understanding what you're reading.

                                                                                            I've forced no beliefs. I posed a thought. You, being small minded but sure of your beliefs, as small as they are, attacked me for what your small mind imagined I was saying.

                                                                                            is that clearer for you?
                                                                                            thats where your wrong...........I HAVE NO BELIEFS.

                                                                                            now why is that man crapping coins?
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                                                                                              #246
                                                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                              serge, this was a troll gathering thread. I was surprised to find you in the net.
                                                                                              Ron, c'mon, you know how much I love arguing with a worthy opponent and you ARE a worthy opponent.
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                                                                                                #247
                                                                                                Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                again, dear idiot,
                                                                                                Ron, you like Winston Churchill, don't you?

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                                                                                                • wig
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
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                                                                                                  #248
                                                                                                  Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                  I made no connection between anti-religious crowd and the spark of life nor did I make a connection to the religious crowd and the spark of life.
                                                                                                  Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                  My thought was, we know so much but still know so little.
                                                                                                  but knowing so little, the smallest of us belittle those who believe in god.
                                                                                                  While I appreciate you ability to bait... it sure seems like you are making a connection.
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                                                                                                  • marketsmart
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                                                                                                    • Dec 2004
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                                                                                                    #249
                                                                                                    if there is no GOD, how the fuck did I get so good looking?

                                                                                                    but then again, looking at Ron, you can definitely see a mix neanderthal and cro magnon charachteristics..

                                                                                                    Personally, I would lean towards neanderthal since they are considered sub human like primates...




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                                                                                                    • AtlantisCash
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                                                                                                      • Dec 2005
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                                                                                                      #250
                                                                                                      Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                      that may be true of the muslim scum but here in the Judeo Christian country of America, we pretty much take care of "other's life" too.



                                                                                                      Yea yea, Tell that to a Catholic prist, some of them know how to take care of Little boys very well

                                                                                                      btw. that Judeo-Christian thing made my night
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