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  • rock-reed
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    • May 2005
    • 1892

    #1

    Joining video with no Re-Render

    Hi,

    What is the best/easiest/most-efficient way to connect DV scenes together without having to re-render the entire file out?


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    #2
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      • directfiesta
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        • Oct 2002
        • 30201

        #4
        what format (vob, mpeg2, avi, etc ...)
        I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

        But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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        • stickyfingerz
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          #5
          www.boilsoft.com

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          • rock-reed
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            #6
            DV


            Digital Video
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            • rock-reed
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              #7
              ...anyone... Anyone...?


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              • aico
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                • Mar 2004
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                #8
                If it's still DV, that usually means you are in the editing stage, why don't you just drop the scenes into your editor in the sequence you want, why do you need to re-render it? You already know what it looks like.

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                • rock-reed
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                  • May 2005
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                  #9
                  I am not editing.... I am archiving and backing up from tape to Hard-Drive

                  Thank you
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                  • stickyfingerz
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                    • Oct 2005
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by rock-reed
                    I am not editing.... I am archiving and backing up from tape to Hard-Drive

                    Thank you
                    there is no format .dv You are either using mpeg1 or .avi wherein the link I posted to boilsoft and their AVI/MPEG/RM/WMV Joiner will work for that no problem. You might look at my sig I work with miniDv and HD all day long.

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                    • seeric
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                      • Aug 2004
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                      #11
                      i capture, edit and compress video with final cut and you have me thoroughly confused.

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                      • Helix
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                        • Feb 2002
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                        #12
                        just capture it from cam, put together the clips you need and render it using the dv codec and you shouldn't suffer any data degradation.

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                        • aico
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                          • Mar 2004
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                          there is no format .dv You are either using mpeg1 or .avi wherein the link I posted to boilsoft and their AVI/MPEG/RM/WMV Joiner will work for that no problem. You might look at my sig I work with miniDv and HD all day long.
                          There is no DV format? Are you on crack? You edit it all day long huh? Jesus.

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                          • aico
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                            • Mar 2004
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by rock-reed
                            I am not editing.... I am archiving and backing up from tape to Hard-Drive

                            Thank you
                            in that case I don't know of any way to join .dv files. But, why are you backing them up? The tapes will last you longer than the harddrive.

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                            • seeric
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                              • Aug 2004
                              • 41917

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Helix
                              just capture it from cam, put together the clips you need and render it using the dv codec and you shouldn't suffer any data degradation.
                              what he said

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                              • aico
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                                • Mar 2004
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                                #16
                                If you have two cameras you can also do a tape to tape, and put it in any order you want. I guess you have a reson for putting it to a Hard Drive, but if you're just trying to back up your footage, tapes are way better than a hard drive.

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                                • directfiesta
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                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 30201

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by aico
                                  There is no DV format? Are you on crack? You edit it all day long huh? Jesus.


                                  He is a scientist , a GLOBAL WARMING one .. so you have to excuse him.... about his lack of knowledge about editing ....
                                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                  • rock-reed
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                                    • May 2005
                                    • 1892

                                    #18
                                    Not true...I have tapes that were well taken care of...that are now about.... 5 years old and they are having some drop outs.

                                    No DV format? lol----u wild yo...

                                    I do not want to edit the clips and re-render to DV (look at the title of the post)

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                                    • rock-reed
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                                      • May 2005
                                      • 1892

                                      #19
                                      Tapes suffer from drop out... Do not rely on them to be good over time...

                                      I have a dual Hard drive back up of all my raw DV files
                                      (all tapes backed up across two different system with two different storage areas)
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                                      • seeric
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                                        #20
                                        im a tard.

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                                        • stickyfingerz
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by aico
                                          There is no DV format? Are you on crack? You edit it all day long huh? Jesus.
                                          Dv format makes no difference in joining. DV is mpeg1 when captured. Maybe there is .dv on a mac who knows....

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                                          • directfiesta
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                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 30201

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by rock-reed
                                            5 years old and they are having some drop outs.

                                            I agree . I have some BETACAM PAL SP tapes of 1997, and they do have drop outs, mainly at the begining of the tapes.
                                            Good thing the studio started the actual movie at 3:00 into the tape....
                                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                            • aico
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                                              • Mar 2004
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                              Dv format makes no difference in joining. DV is mpeg1 when captured. Maybe there is .dv on a mac who knows....
                                              shut up, you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Maybe your shitty ass program compresses the video when you capture it, but that's your problem.

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                                              • rock-reed
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                                                #24
                                                DV is mpeg1 when captured?

                                                oh my god...this is great....
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                                                • aico
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                  I agree . I have some BETACAM PAL SP tapes of 1997, and they do have drop outs, mainly at the begining of the tapes.
                                                  Good thing the studio started the actual movie at 3:00 into the tape....
                                                  BetaCam is Analog. There is no deteoriation with Digital Video.

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                                                  • rock-reed
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                                                    #26
                                                    You can help with drop out by.... everyone once in a while....fast-forwarding the tape to the very end.

                                                    When it hits the end (jerks a little).... particles that accumulated on the tape fall off...

                                                    Rewind to beginning--- when it hits... same thing happens.

                                                    It helps a little bit with drop out over time.
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                                                    • stickyfingerz
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by aico
                                                      shut up, you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Maybe your shitty ass program compresses the video when you capture it, but that's your problem.
                                                      Sorry I dont use a mac. Now when someone asks for a program to join DV video he will have to capture it to his computer in order to do that. There is no extension .dv on a pc it is either .avi or .mpeg1 .avi is the full uncompressed version.

                                                      If I were asking for software for a MAC I would probably say that first thing.

                                                      Btw I use adobe Premiere 2.0 and newest versions of sorrenson squeeze and Canopus procoder 2. Shitty programs?
                                                      Last edited by stickyfingerz; 01-12-2007, 04:53 PM.

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                                                      • directfiesta
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                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 30201

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by aico
                                                        BetaCam is Analog. There is no deteoriation with Digital Video.
                                                        I wasn't referring to lost ... but to drop outs. Tape, analog or digital, can have drop outs, mainly as the years go by.
                                                        I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                        But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                        • StuBradley
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                                                          • Jul 2002
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                                                          #29
                                                          I use EZ Video Joiner. This is what you're looking for.

                                                          http://www.doeasier.org/joiner/


                                                          51-566-514

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                                                          • rock-reed
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                                                            • May 2005
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                                                            #30
                                                            A file can have any extension on it in the world (fuckyou-imeating.dope)

                                                            DV and miniDV are the type of codec...

                                                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV


                                                            .avi is just an extension....
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                                                            • stickyfingerz
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by StuBradley
                                                              I use EZ Video Joiner. This is what you're looking for.

                                                              http://www.doeasier.org/joiner/

                                                              No apparently he has .dv files and uses a mac.......

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                                                              • aico
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by rock-reed
                                                                A file can have any extension on it in the world (fuckyou-imeating.dope)

                                                                DV and miniDV are the type of codec...

                                                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV


                                                                .avi is just an extension....
                                                                He does this all day long. You're not teaching him anything he obviously hasn't already learned in "Adobe Premiere Classroom in a Book".

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                                                                • stickyfingerz
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by rock-reed
                                                                  A file can have any extension on it in the world (fuckyou-imeating.dope)

                                                                  DV and miniDV are the type of codec...

                                                                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV


                                                                  .avi is just an extension....
                                                                  Gee I wouldnt know I mainly work with HDV now let me go find what extension that uses, oh shit....

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                                                                  • aico
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                    Gee I wouldnt know I mainly work with HDV now let me go find what extension that uses, oh shit....
                                                                    you just keep getting dumber and dumber.

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                                                                    • stickyfingerz
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by aico
                                                                      He does this all day long. You're not teaching him anything he obviously hasn't already learned in "Adobe Premiere Classroom in a Book".
                                                                      Hmm well Ive only been using Premiere since version 5 so Im sure that classroom in a book should sure help. Of course lucky you they are just releasing a mac version of premiere again soon!

                                                                      Im not being taught a thing is right. DV format has nothing to do with what program would work to join it. More important is the file type his program captures to which would be .avi, or .mpeg

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                                                                      • stickyfingerz
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by aico
                                                                        you just keep getting dumber and dumber.
                                                                        Yes Please teach me about video production now....

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                                                                        • rock-reed
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Idiocracy...

                                                                          It is happening as we speak....
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                                                                          • stickyfingerz
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by rock-reed
                                                                            Idiocracy...

                                                                            It is happening as we speak....
                                                                            Ok so are you using a mac or a pc? What program are you capturing with? What file type and extension does your program capture to?

                                                                            .avi? .mpeg? .m2t?

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                                                                            • aico
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                              Hmm well Ive only been using Premiere since version 5 so Im sure that classroom in a book should sure help. Of course lucky you they are just releasing a mac version of premiere again soon!

                                                                              Im not being taught a thing is right. DV format has nothing to do with what program would work to join it. More important is the file type his program captures to which would be .avi, or .mpeg
                                                                              Hmm, well I used Premiere since 2.0, and before that I used the Thumbs Up editor with two VCRs...

                                                                              Premiere is crap, they didn't stop making it for Mac becaues they wanted to, it's because people with a Mac stopped using it around 4.0 because is was utter shit.

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                                                                              • aico
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                Yes Please teach me about video production now....
                                                                                What do you want to know?

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                                                                                • directfiesta
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                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 30201

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by aico
                                                                                  you just keep getting dumber and dumber.


                                                                                  Over the years, somebody can educate himself, but he will never be smarter, just educated...
                                                                                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                  • Helix
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                                    im a tard.
                                                                                    me too...I guess.

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                                                                                    • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by aico
                                                                                      Hmm, well I used Premiere since 2.0, and before that I used the Thumbs Up editor with two VCRs...

                                                                                      Premiere is crap, they didn't stop making it for Mac becaues they wanted to, it's because people with a Mac stopped using it around 4.0 because is was utter shit.
                                                                                      And yet its still around imagine. I used jog shuttle controllers back in 89 with 2 vcr's. I ran the video dept in high school from 89 to 91 big whoppity do. lol After that I ran a video photo album business for weddings, anniversaries, and funerals. I didnt use a scanner I did it all manually on a big old video camera by hand on a big easel. Ahh those are the memories.

                                                                                      Still wondering what he uses to capture with, what os he is on, and what file type his software captures to...

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                                                                                      • directfiesta
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                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                        • 30201

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                        Yes Please teach me about video production now....
                                                                                        .. can you teach me about latin ... or hosting...

                                                                                        Oups, I see no more hosting in your sig ... and no post in hosting threads with the :

                                                                                        " hit me up or call my telephone, it rings DIRECTLY to me ... "
                                                                                        I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                        But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                        • rock-reed
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          winXP pro

                                                                                          using vegas 7
                                                                                          capturing to raw DV format...
                                                                                          .avi extension

                                                                                          This isn't Rocket Surgery fellaz...
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                                                                                          • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                            • 24984

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                                            .. can you teach me about latin ... or hosting...

                                                                                            Oups, I see no more hosting in your sig ... and no post in hosting threads with the :

                                                                                            " hit me up or call my telephone, it rings DIRECTLY to me ... "
                                                                                            How is your site doing? Ever get someone to redo your template for you? I launched two businesses that are doing well, so not as much time to hang out in hosting threads.

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                                                                                            • stickyfingerz
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by rock-reed
                                                                                              winXP pro

                                                                                              using vegas 7
                                                                                              capturing to raw DV format...
                                                                                              .avi extension

                                                                                              This isn't Rocket Surgery fellaz...
                                                                                              OK Gezzus fuck. .avi Go download the fucking trial at boilsoft http://www.boilsoft.com/avi-mpeg-rm-joiner.html

                                                                                              Like I said in the fucking 2nd or 3rd post in this thread. The trial is fully functional and will join it with no loss. Jesus. DV format is the tape format. .avi is the file format on the computer. Just like I fuckin said ....

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                                                                                              • aico
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                                And yet its still around imagine. I used jog shuttle controllers back in 89 with 2 vcr's. I ran the video dept in high school from 89 to 91 big whoppity do. lol After that I ran a video photo album business for weddings, anniversaries, and funerals. I didnt use a scanner I did it all manually on a big old video camera by hand on a big easel. Ahh those are the memories.

                                                                                                Still wondering what he uses to capture with, what os he is on, and what file type his software captures to...
                                                                                                Corel Draw is still around too... it's fucking crap also, what's your point?

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                                                                                                • BitAudioVideo
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  virtual dub can do this so long as you have dvsd decompressor installed. just use 'direct stream copy'

                                                                                                  windows captures type-1 dv avi or type-2 dv avi. .dv most certainly exists, windows just uses an avi wrapper (DirectShow) to handle it.

                                                                                                  feel free to hit me up on icq if you need help joining with vdub. its free, its fast.
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                                                                                                  • rock-reed
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    I tried the Boilsoft joiner.... but it didn't seem to recognize the DV codec....

                                                                                                    And no where on their site does it say they support DV


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