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  • chartgraves
    • Aug 2026
    #1

    Sony Blocks Porn On Blu-Ray (Straight From AEE Floor)

    http://www.sgknox.com/2007/01/11/no-porn-on-blu-ray/

    Has Sony gone mad? Prominent adult movie producer Digital Playground (site) says it is forced to use HD DVD instead of Blu-ray, because Sony does not allow XXX-rated movies to be released on Blu-ray.

    It does not matter how you stand to porn. It is here and it is a massive business. It is also an industry that is an early adopter for new media technology. VHS might not have won with out the adult film industry adopting it.

    German Heise has interviewed Joone the founder of Digital Playgrounds at the AVN 2007 show in Las Vegas. Joone says actually said last year he is committed to Blu-ray. Now they announced four HD DVD titles in the United States. In the interview Joone says he was forced to use HD DVD, because no Blu-ray disc manufacturer would make his discs, because Sony was against it and they would loose their license.

    If this holds true, Blu-ray is at a major disadvantage and could fail.
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    • sicone
      Retired
      • Jan 2004
      • 18453
      #2
      Bold move on Sony's part. Wonder how this will affect their sales?

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        • directfiesta
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Oct 2002
          • 30184
          #3
          repeat of history ....
          I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

          But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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            • MrPinks
              Registered User
              • Oct 2003
              • 1767
              #4
              Well I was gunning for HD DVD so hopefully this will help them win the current format war.

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                • Sosa
                  In Tushy Land
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 40149
                  #5
                  Suprising they would do that. I think you would want your new technology to play everything.

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                    • badmunchkin
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 3797
                      #6
                      that's funny - I was just talking to someone about the HD versus Blu-Ray format war the other day - and they said whichever format porn goes with is the one that will survive

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                        • BusterBunny
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                          • Aug 2005
                          • 19291
                          #7
                          Originally posted by sicone
                          Bold move on Sony's part. Wonder how this will affect their sales?
                          betamax
                          Originally posted by directfiesta
                          repeat of history ....
                          my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died

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                            • MrPinks
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1767
                              #8
                              Isn't HD DVD backwards compatitble unlike Blu Ray?

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                                • the source
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2004
                                  • 1255
                                  #9
                                  No porn blu-rays eh..... well That fucking blows.. Blu-ray is the superior HD format

                                  this is 1 sad cubscout.
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                                    • ElvisManson
                                      Looking California
                                      • Feb 2001
                                      • 5476
                                      #10
                                      nail, meet coffin.

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                                        • JFK
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                                          • Jan 2002
                                          • 67369
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by the source
                                          No porn blu-rays eh..... well That fucking blows.. Blu-ray is the superior HD format

                                          this is 1 sad cubscout.
                                          Sanctimonius bastards, hope they lose the war , better quality or not

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                                            • candyflip
                                              Carpe Visio
                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 43073
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by MrPinks
                                              Isn't HD DVD backwards compatitble unlike Blu Ray?
                                              Not all of the HDDVDs are able to be played in standard DVD players. I'd say at this point, it's about 60% or so.

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                                                • cheekycherry
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                  • 1703
                                                  #13
                                                  A "format" producer should NOT be able to censor the material that goes onto that media format. It's a fuckin storage device, nothing more.

                                                  If this is the case and is true, the battle has already been won.

                                                  HD DVD WILL win the battle.

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                                                    • cheekycherry
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                      • 1703
                                                      #14
                                                      A "format" producer should NOT be able to censor the material that goes onto that media format. It's a fuckin storage device, nothing more.

                                                      If this is the case and is true, the battle has already been won.

                                                      HD DVD WILL win the battle.

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                                                        • Martin3
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                                                          • Oct 2005
                                                          • 1529
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by candyflip
                                                          Not all of the HDDVDs are able to be played in standard DVD players. I'd say at this point, it's about 60% or so.
                                                          None of them can. You guys maybe confusing the combo disc's(hd-dvd on one side, dvd on the other)
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                                                            • BusterBunny
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                                                              • Aug 2005
                                                              • 19291
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Martin3
                                                              None of them can. You guys maybe confusing the combo disc's(hd-dvd on one side, dvd on the other)


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                                                                • JD
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                  • 22651
                                                                  #17
                                                                  say good night to blu-ray...

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                                                                    • MrPinks
                                                                      Registered User
                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                      • 1767
                                                                      #18
                                                                      I'm not talking about playing HD DVDs in a standard player. I'm talking about playing standard DVDs in a HD DVD player.

                                                                      Originally posted by Martin3
                                                                      None of them can. You guys maybe confusing the combo disc's(hd-dvd on one side, dvd on the other)

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                                                                        • WiredGuy
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                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                          • 34515
                                                                          #19
                                                                          How do you create a bluray movie? I can't see that you need to send the movie to Sony to encode it for you?
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                                                                            • Shoehorn!
                                                                              Die With Your Boots On
                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                              • 22872
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                              repeat of history ....
                                                                              Exactly.

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                                                                                • candyflip
                                                                                  Carpe Visio
                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                  • 43073
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Martin3
                                                                                  None of them can. You guys maybe confusing the combo disc's(hd-dvd on one side, dvd on the other)
                                                                                  Yeah, that's what I thought he was referring to. I didn't think anyone would be dumb enough to think you could play HDDVDs in a standard DVD player.

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                                                                                    • seeric
                                                                                      ..........
                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                      • 41917
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      good. fucking blue ray dvds cost 80 bucks.

                                                                                      fuck sony!

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                                                                                        • biftek
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                                                          • 1030
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by cheekycherry
                                                                                          A "format" producer should NOT be able to censor the material that goes onto that media format. It's a fuckin storage device, nothing more.

                                                                                          If this is the case and is true, the battle has already been won.

                                                                                          HD DVD WILL win the battle.
                                                                                          all to do with the EULA

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                                                                                            • babsy
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Mar 2006
                                                                                              • 282
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by the source
                                                                                              No porn blu-rays eh..... well That fucking blows.. Blu-ray is the superior HD format

                                                                                              this is 1 sad cubscout.
                                                                                              Blu-ray might be technically better, but it's backed by a bunch of assholes (Sony) who are very much going out of their way to make life difficult on consumers and their competitors. HD-DVD is the more "open" of the standards as things currently stand, and while it's technically inferior (but not by THAT much), I predict it will win out. Of course, you can get drives that will read both formats, so in the end, it might not matter. As soon as those wacky scientists invent dual-format burners, well, that's it, the race kinda fizzles out in to whoever can supply the blank media the cheapest.

                                                                                              In conclusion, fuck Sony.

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                                                                                                • Basic_man
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                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                  • 27360
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  So, I guess HD-DVD will win by far on the blu-ray!!
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                                                                                                    • Jace
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                                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                                      • 35562
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                                                      good. fucking blue ray dvds cost 80 bucks.

                                                                                                      fuck sony!
                                                                                                      all new formats are expensive before they become wide spread

                                                                                                      hell, i remember when I was buying dvd+r media for $10-20 a pop

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                                                                                                        • Scott McD
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                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                          • 67792
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Fuck Sony and Blu-Ray anyway.

                                                                                                          Sony should have made blu-ray an add on for the PS3, but instead, gave gamers no choice, added it in, and bumped the price of the machine up.


                                                                                                          The reason we here in the UK are still waiting for the PS3 release (due March now) is because of the stupid blu-ray shit. And the console will cost £425 when released...


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                                                                                                            • GTS Mark
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                                                                                                              • 20912
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              If you ask me I think a big opening in the market just emerged... Anyone want to open up a Blu-ray disc factory that is adult friendly ;)

                                                                                                              DH

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                                                                                                                • ucv.karl
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                                                                                                                  • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                  • 498
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Scott McD
                                                                                                                  Fuck Sony and Blu-Ray anyway.

                                                                                                                  Sony should have made blu-ray an add on for the PS3, but instead, gave gamers no choice, added it in, and bumped the price of the machine up.
                                                                                                                  I think Sony is using Blu-ray because the discs hold 50Gigs and that will definitely be useful in the future advances for this generations console. The xbox360 is currently restricted to using DVDs which is 4.7 (single) or 9Gigs (dual). For game developers the greater disk space might allow for some cool shit.
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                                                                                                                    • ucv.karl
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                                                                                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                      • 498
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Why is Vivid saying in this interview from Nov 2006 they are still using Blu-ray?

                                                                                                                      http://www.tvpredictions.com/hirsch111006.htm

                                                                                                                      "Steve Hirsch: We will be releasing our first high-def DVD in the first quarter of 2007. We're working on it now. It will be a Blu-ray DVD..."

                                                                                                                      Maybe the guy from Vivid is smart enough to own his own manufacturing facility.
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                                                                                                                        • biftek
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                                                                                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                          • 1030
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by ucv.karl
                                                                                                                          Why is Vivid saying in this interview from Nov 2006 they are still using Blu-ray?

                                                                                                                          http://www.tvpredictions.com/hirsch111006.htm

                                                                                                                          "Steve Hirsch: We will be releasing our first high-def DVD in the first quarter of 2007. We're working on it now. It will be a Blu-ray DVD..."

                                                                                                                          Maybe the guy from Vivid is smart enough to own his own manufacturing facility.
                                                                                                                          i hardly doubt that , unless they wanted to haggle over licencing with sony(the owner of bluray) and the blu-ray disc association , which consists of
                                                                                                                          Apple Computer, Inc.
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                                                                                                                            • Hunter_ST
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                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                              • 763
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by ElvisManson
                                                                                                                              nail, meet coffin.
                                                                                                                              grabbing my hammer now... dumbasses

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                                                                                                                                • JFK
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                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 67369
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
                                                                                                                                  If you ask me I think a big opening in the market just emerged... Anyone want to open up a Blu-ray disc factory that is adult friendly ;)

                                                                                                                                  DH
                                                                                                                                  well I think you are missing the point here DH, its the technology they wont share

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                                                                                                                                    • tony299
                                                                                                                                      lurker
                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 57021
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      I think hd dvd is going to win the war its cheaper and now that porn can only go on it.

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                                                                                                                                        • ucv.karl
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                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                          • 498
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by JFK
                                                                                                                                          well I think you are missing the point here DH, its the technology they wont share
                                                                                                                                          Vivid is saying they're releasing a Blu-ray DVD in the first quarter of 07. What is Sony not sharing?
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                                                                                                                                            • GTS Mark
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                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 20912
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by JFK
                                                                                                                                              well I think you are missing the point here DH, its the technology they wont share
                                                                                                                                              hehe i know but some underground factory in Japan has probably figured out the blue-ray technology by now and could be making bank distributing adult stuff ;)

                                                                                                                                              DH

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                                                                                                                                                • Elli
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                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 17991
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Sad, sad, sad. And here I was just getting curious about the Blu-Ray hoo hah.
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                                                                                                                                                    • notabook
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                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                                      • 9748
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by ucv.karl
                                                                                                                                                      The xbox360 is currently restricted to using DVDs which is 4.7 (single) or 9Gigs (dual). For game developers the greater disk space might allow for some cool shit.
                                                                                                                                                      That's just really not true at the moment. Most PC games are STILL coming on CD (which are either one or two cds these days) so there is barely a rush to go to DVD. The only 'taxing' games that actually can fill a DVD are of the Oblivion quality and we won't see very many games like that for a while. Dual layer DVDs (I think all 360 games are of the dual layer dvd variety, even though they could easily fit on a single layer DVD) are more than enough to see through the lifespan of the 360. By the time the 360 is ready to be retired the games will all probably be in the same state they are in right now when compared to CD?s (one to two dual-layer dvds) and the next format will just barely be tapped into.

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                                                                                                                                                        • jeffrey
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MrPinks
                                                                                                                                                          I'm not talking about playing HD DVDs in a standard player. I'm talking about playing standard DVDs in a HD DVD player.
                                                                                                                                                          Both bluray and hd dvd players will play a standard dvd.

                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                                                                          How do you create a bluray movie? I can't see that you need to send the movie to Sony to encode it for you?
                                                                                                                                                          WG
                                                                                                                                                          You need a special facility to make the disks, current dvd facilities cant just be updated like they can for hd dvd.
                                                                                                                                                          If you dont have licensing for the bluray Sony will just sue you.

                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                                                                                                          good. fucking blue ray dvds cost 80 bucks.

                                                                                                                                                          fuck sony!
                                                                                                                                                          They are 20 bucks a disk right now. And a writer is 900.

                                                                                                                                                          I remember when dvds were that much too.
                                                                                                                                                          Hell I remember when the cassette load 1x cdr drives came out the blank cds were like 15 bucks each.

                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
                                                                                                                                                          If you ask me I think a big opening in the market just emerged... Anyone want to open up a Blu-ray disc factory that is adult friendly ;)

                                                                                                                                                          DH
                                                                                                                                                          Sony wont give you licencing, meaning they would be illegal, meaning sony would sue you.
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                                                                                                                                                            • tony299
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                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 57021
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              doesnt sony know their vx2000 was the industry standard for making porn lol

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                                                                                                                                                                • 93sc
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                  • 53
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  With dual format players being released, does it really matter? If you got a player that does both formats, do you really care that much? I think that LG just took most of the wind out of the format war.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • jeffrey
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                                                      • 1864
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by 93sc
                                                                                                                                                                      With dual format players being released, does it really matter? If you got a player that does both formats, do you really care that much? I think that LG just took most of the wind out of the format war.
                                                                                                                                                                      at the tiny price of 1200+
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                                                                                                                                                                        • 93sc
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by jeffrey
                                                                                                                                                                          at the tiny price of 1200+
                                                                                                                                                                          Yea, now. What do you think they are going ot be selling for in a year after more companies start producing them?

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                                                                                                                                                                            • ucv.karl
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by notabook
                                                                                                                                                                              That's just really not true at the moment. Most PC games are STILL coming on CD (which are either one or two cds these days) so there is barely a rush to go to DVD. The only 'taxing' games that actually can fill a DVD are of the Oblivion quality and we won't see very many games like that for a while. Dual layer DVDs (I think all 360 games are of the dual layer dvd variety, even though they could easily fit on a single layer DVD) are more than enough to see through the lifespan of the 360. By the time the 360 is ready to be retired the games will all probably be in the same state they are in right now when compared to CD?s (one to two dual-layer dvds) and the next format will just barely be tapped into.
                                                                                                                                                                              Resistance: Fall of Man for PS3 at 22Gigs almost fills an entire Blu-ray single layer disc. And it's the first iteration of PS3 games. I can't image to see what the next iteration brings.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • ucv.karl
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                                                  doesnt sony know their vx2000 was the industry standard for making porn lol
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • V_RocKs
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 32451
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
                                                                                                                                                                                      hehe i know but some underground factory in Japan has probably figured out the blue-ray technology by now and could be making bank distributing adult stuff ;)

                                                                                                                                                                                      DH
                                                                                                                                                                                      Except for the fact that Japan does have copywrite laws...

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • V_RocKs
                                                                                                                                                                                          Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 32451
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          And porn wasn't the big reason for VHS over Betamax... It was the length of recording... Betamax originally couldn't record over 60 minutes.. So movie producers porn or mainstream couldn't release movies in it...

                                                                                                                                                                                          So everyone bought VHS players that could play the VHS movies that were available first.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Red Ezra
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 4678
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              75% of porn is shot on sony cameras

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • notabook
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 9748
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by ucv.karl
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Resistance: Fall of Man for PS3 at 22Gigs almost fills an entire Blu-ray single layer disc. And it's the first iteration of PS3 games. I can't image to see what the next iteration brings.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  It's most likely just junk data @ 22Gigs with actual data being closer to 5-7GB at max. Since there are no PS3 games that are of higher caliber than anything that a 360 has, and consideing both can display @ 1080, AND since MS has no plans to go above a dual-layer DVD for games on a 360, then we can assume that Fall of Man's actual data is closer to the 5-7GB range and the rest is merely filler/junk data.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Idiots!

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Didn't Sony learn their lesson with Beta-Max?

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