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  • MrDeiz
    SignBucksDaily.com
    • May 2008
    • 9802
    #1

    CCBill WMS: Success or Fail?

    Your thoughts?

    I was checking it yesterday and today and i really don't like it. And bad for me i can't use the old admin anymore after logging into wms.

    It still has some major bugs. Like affiliates which have initial ccbill account with a program that didn't migrate to wms can't join wms programs by wms join codes for webmasters(only thru the wms admin).

    It takes longer to load data and i can't open reports in a new tab anymore. It's uncomfortable to grab links and navigate most of wms the data.
    And it kinda sucks that every fucker can view your address. Even if he's a program owner. Programs die like flies these days (only 3,5k of 40k of client accounts (CA) remained alive into the old system).

    The only good thing is helpful support and billing's authority

    So it's 'Fail' from here (sorry, CCBill ). The old system was great because of its simpleness. Just a few improvements was needed.
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    • TheDA
      Confirmed User
      • May 2006
      • 4665
      #2
      Too early to say. When sponsors start using it I'll get an idea.
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        • Les Grossman
          So Fucking Banned
          • Sep 2009
          • 1012
          #3
          I'm sure they will work the bugs out. It's a big step for them and it's going to have some bumps.

          I have faith if ANYONE will work it out, it will be CCbill.

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            • Tanker
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2000
              • 9287
              #4
              I personally think the old system just needed click referral tracking and it would have been just fine its simple and easy to use

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                • ganjaman
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 2292
                  #5
                  signbucks daily ... success or fail? ... ...

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                    • andrej_NDC
                      Registered User
                      • May 2004
                      • 7760
                      #6
                      CCbill is a huge sucess, because no matter what, you will always get your payment on time. No bullshit, no excuses, wires hit the bank account every tuesday, not one day late(if there isn't a holiday on monday). And you get paid 1 week after the period ends, not 2-4 weeks like with most sponsors.

                      And real webmasters don't need anything but a linking code.

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                        • andrej_NDC
                          Registered User
                          • May 2004
                          • 7760
                          #7
                          Originally posted by daizzzy
                          And it kinda sucks that every fucker can view your address.
                          No, he can't. You can simply choose so when signing up.

                          BUT when you sign-up for other programs, they don't get to see your address? lol

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                            • MrDeiz
                              SignBucksDaily.com
                              • May 2008
                              • 9802
                              #8
                              Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                              No, he can't. You can simply choose so when signing up.

                              BUT when you sign-up for other programs, they don't get to see your address? lol
                              in wms they can. you simply can't join a program if you don't disclose your address. it's called 'accepting of private affiliates' and there's like 9 program (out of 150) which are ok with it
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                                • ganjaman
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 2292
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by daizzzy
                                  in wms they can. you simply can't join a program if you don't disclose your address. it's called 'accepting of private affiliates' and there's like 9 program (out of 150) which are ok with it
                                  and what? you are working for those companies! in real life if you want to work for someone, you have to give out much more info! you dont get that this is normal industry as any other?

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                                    • Agent 488
                                      Registered User
                                      • Feb 2006
                                      • 22511
                                      #10
                                      you are in idiot. i hope no one listens to the continuous stream of misinformation that comes from your keyboard.

                                      Originally posted by daizzzy
                                      in wms they can. you simply can't join a program if you don't disclose your address. it's called 'accepting of private affiliates' and there's like 9 program (out of 150) which are ok with it

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                                        • MrDeiz
                                          SignBucksDaily.com
                                          • May 2008
                                          • 9802
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Agent 488
                                          you are in idiot. i hope no one listens to the continuous stream of misinformation that comes from your keyboard.
                                          yeah, and everyone listen to what troll says

                                          daizzzy (19:07:43 11/12/2009)
                                          hi there
                                          so i'm into wms right now, find/compare programs
                                          i've checked all sections on the right and i got only 9 results. so it appears there aren't many programs on the list or am i doing something wrong?

                                          CCBill (19:17:04 11/12/2009)
                                          The 9 programs you see are the sponsors that allow private affiliates to use their program.

                                          daizzzy (19:18:59 11/12/2009)
                                          what's private affiliates?
                                          i know programs have an option to be displayed into the list of wms programs. is it that?

                                          CCBill (19:21:12 11/12/2009)
                                          Private affiliate means, you do not provide account information to the sponsor.

                                          daizzzy (19:23:01 11/12/2009)
                                          how can i get complete list of wms programs?

                                          CCBill (19:28:37 11/12/2009)
                                          Under find/compre. Just click search button.

                                          daizzzy (19:29:26 11/12/2009)
                                          so that's it? only 9 programs? what i've asked before?

                                          CCBill (19:32:05 11/12/2009)
                                          In order to see the complete list you will need to check the box under account profile that says "allow sponsor to view your address:. If this box is checked, you will see more than the 10 sponsors.

                                          CCBill (19:32:45 11/12/2009)
                                          Since your account is set to "hide" only 9 sponsors using WMS allow affiliates to join their program.
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                                            • SleazyDream
                                              I'm here for SPORT
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 41470
                                              #12
                                              def needs work.....
                                              This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                              Now read without the word dog.

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                                                • 12clicks
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 19813
                                                  #13
                                                  This industry never fails to make me laugh.
                                                  Any small time nobody can start a poll complaining about a company that is as good as gold.
                                                  Over what appears to be his inability to try to conduct business anonymously.
                                                  Wow
                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                    • andrej_NDC
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • May 2004
                                                      • 7760
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by daizzzy
                                                      in wms they can. you simply can't join a program if you don't disclose your address. it's called 'accepting of private affiliates' and there's like 9 program (out of 150) which are ok with it
                                                      No, they can't. If the affiliate doesn't want me to see the address, I won't.

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                                                        • BV
                                                          wtf
                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                          • 10914
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by daizzzy
                                                          And bad for me i can't use the old admin anymore after logging into wms..
                                                          What do you mean by this? I can log into both.

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                                                            • MrDeiz
                                                              SignBucksDaily.com
                                                              • May 2008
                                                              • 9802
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                              No, they can't. If the affiliate doesn't want me to see the address, I won't.
                                                              you haven't read my log, right?

                                                              2 BV maybe because your initial account program has migrated to wms or something. in my case it's confirmed by support that i can't login into old system anymore
                                                              Last edited by MrDeiz; 12-11-2009, 11:13 PM.
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                                                                • fatfoo
                                                                  ICQ:649699063
                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 27763
                                                                  #17
                                                                  I have no idea. I'm not involved in that. I didn't vote, daizzzy.
                                                                  Send me an email: [email protected]

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                                                                    • nation-x
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                      • 5370
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                      This industry never fails to make me laugh.
                                                                      Any small time nobody can start a poll complaining about a company that is as good as gold.
                                                                      Over what appears to be his inability to try to conduct business anonymously.
                                                                      Wow
                                                                      Holy Crap! I think that is twice now that I have agreed with you.

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                                                                        • ganjaman
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                          • 2292
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                          This industry never fails to make me laugh.
                                                                          Any small time nobody can start a poll complaining about a company that is as good as gold.
                                                                          Over what appears to be his inability to try to conduct business anonymously.
                                                                          Wow
                                                                          thats what i thought ...

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                                                                            • Les Grossman
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Sep 2009
                                                                              • 1012
                                                                              #20
                                                                              While I like CCbill, I can also say I've yet to speak to ANYONE on their live chat system that has a clue what is going on. You have to call and speak to someone. I'm convinced their live chat support is based in India or some other 3rd world crap hole.

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                                                                                • MrDeiz
                                                                                  SignBucksDaily.com
                                                                                  • May 2008
                                                                                  • 9802
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Les Grossman
                                                                                  While I like CCbill, I can also say I've yet to speak to ANYONE on their live chat system that has a clue what is going on. You have to call and speak to someone. I'm convinced their live chat support is based in India or some other 3rd world crap hole.
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                                                                                    • LoveSandra
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Aug 2008
                                                                                      • 10551
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by ganjaman
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                                                                                        • eroticty
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • May 2009
                                                                                          • 16
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by BV
                                                                                          What do you mean by this? I can log into both.
                                                                                          If you have wms setup for bvbucks, I have never seen it & I have been promoting you for years. My bv id number does not work for the CCBill Affiliate Admin System - login. I use my very first affiliate id to see that it tracks some clicks and I am happy.

                                                                                          Any time I get a email that say OMG!!!!!!!!!! ID #:whatever -just upgraded to wms, I delete the message cause I just can't be bothered to see if it is gonna work - this time.

                                                                                          Now, before someone decides to chain me to a stake and set me on fire, Let me say that I am completely happy with the part of ccbill that does work for me and I get more cheques from ccbill than any other place - so far.

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                                                                                            • BV
                                                                                              wtf
                                                                                              • Sep 2001
                                                                                              • 10914
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by eroticty
                                                                                              If you have wms setup for bvbucks, I have never seen it & I have been promoting you for years. My bv id number does not work for the CCBill Affiliate Admin System - login. I use my very first affiliate id to see that it tracks some clicks and I am happy.

                                                                                              Any time I get a email that say OMG!!!!!!!!!! ID #:whatever -just upgraded to wms, I delete the message cause I just can't be bothered to see if it is gonna work - this time.

                                                                                              Now, before someone decides to chain me to a stake and set me on fire, Let me say that I am completely happy with the part of ccbill that does work for me and I get more cheques from ccbill than any other place - so far.
                                                                                              I would take what Daisy says with a grain of salt. Based on this and other threads he has started in the past, he really doesn't have a clue what he is talking about when it comes to CCBill.

                                                                                              Like you said your old "Legacy" CCBill links will always work even though the sponsor has migrated to WMS.

                                                                                              At one point I used my own affiliate script with the sites in BVCash (aka: bikinivoyeur.com, etc) I even have these old link styles still working, tracking, and showing sales in CCBill.

                                                                                              So I would rest assured that your traffic and money is safe in the hands of CCBill.

                                                                                              Cheers,
                                                                                              BV

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                                                                                                • burntfilm
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Feb 2008
                                                                                                  • 972
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  CCbill is aces all the way, I can't completely comprehend the wms yet, will take some time to know what's up.
                                                                                                  Sorta...

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                                                                                                    • Juilan
                                                                                                      Sultan of Swing
                                                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                                                      • 15141
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      So there was no automatic migration for affiliates? You mean to tell me my links that are all over the place suddenly don't work and credit me sales if the program has moved to WMS???

                                                                                                      please correct me if I'm wrong.
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                                                                                                        • SleazyDream
                                                                                                          I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                          • 41470
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                                          This industry never fails to make me laugh.
                                                                                                          Any small time nobody can start a poll complaining about a company that is as good as gold.
                                                                                                          Over what appears to be his inability to try to conduct business anonymously.
                                                                                                          Wow
                                                                                                          what's absolutely beautiful about CCbill is they ACTUALLY LISTEN to the people who you call the small timers
                                                                                                          This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                                          Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                                            • MrDeiz
                                                                                                              SignBucksDaily.com
                                                                                                              • May 2008
                                                                                                              • 9802
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Juilan
                                                                                                              So there was no automatic migration for affiliates? You mean to tell me my links that are all over the place suddenly don't work and credit me sales if the program has moved to WMS???

                                                                                                              please correct me if I'm wrong.
                                                                                                              once you login into wms with your initial ccbill data you can't access the old admin anymore (at least in my case as i described above and what is confirmed by support)
                                                                                                              your links (old ccbill links) are still ok no matter what
                                                                                                              you need to migrate to wms to promote wms programs (so you get some brand new options into ccbill affiliate back-end), but if an old program migrates to wms, its old links remain active

                                                                                                              2 BV please specify what exactly i'm saying wrong
                                                                                                              Last edited by MrDeiz; 12-12-2009, 11:05 AM.
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                                                                                                                • BV
                                                                                                                  wtf
                                                                                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                  • 10914
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Juilan
                                                                                                                  So there was no automatic migration for affiliates? You mean to tell me my links that are all over the place suddenly don't work and credit me sales if the program has moved to WMS???

                                                                                                                  please correct me if I'm wrong.
                                                                                                                  YOU ARE HERE BY CORRECTED

                                                                                                                  All the old (CCBill Legacy) links will still work even after that program has migrated to CCBill's new WMS script.

                                                                                                                  If you wish to take advantage of the new features in WMS you will need to sign up for the program again and get a new link code.

                                                                                                                  Repeat: Your old links will still work.

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                                                                                                                    • BV
                                                                                                                      wtf
                                                                                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                      • 10914
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by daizzzy
                                                                                                                      2 BV please specify what exactly i'm saying wrong
                                                                                                                      Just STFU and quit pretending to be a CCBill Master Jedi.

                                                                                                                      You don't know shit, and like Sleazy you are not qualified to give CCBill support or comments.

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                                                                                                                        • eroticty
                                                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                                                          • May 2009
                                                                                                                          • 16
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by BV
                                                                                                                          I would take what Daisy says with a grain of salt. Based on this and other threads he has started in the past, he really doesn't have a clue what he is talking about when it comes to CCBill.

                                                                                                                          Like you said your old "Legacy" CCBill links will always work even though the sponsor has migrated to WMS.

                                                                                                                          At one point I used my own affiliate script with the sites in BVCash (aka: bikinivoyeur.com, etc) I even have these old link styles still working, tracking, and showing sales in CCBill.

                                                                                                                          So I would rest assured that your traffic and money is safe in the hands of CCBill.

                                                                                                                          Cheers,
                                                                                                                          BV
                                                                                                                          Since you don't have a reason to give me bad advice, does ccbill still track properly if ya encode the ampersands? Where &html= becomes &html=

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                                                                                                                            • Iron Fist
                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                              • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                              • 23400
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              When WMS gives me a blowjob, until then, I remain skeptical.
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                                                                                                                                • Dirty Dane
                                                                                                                                  Sick Fuck
                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 9491
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  It was in my account at the start, but with 404 pages. Then it disappeared and haven't seen it since. So I don't know. Fail so far..
                                                                                                                                  ... But CCBill has always been great and stable, and still is.

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                                                                                                                                    • MrDeiz
                                                                                                                                      SignBucksDaily.com
                                                                                                                                      • May 2008
                                                                                                                                      • 9802
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      so i was right. total failure
                                                                                                                                      enormous fees they charge programs owners and affiliates wasted for nothing :mad
                                                                                                                                      and ccbill legacy is still outdated affiliate back-end

                                                                                                                                      the industry needs new and reliable billings (maybe some comming from mainstream). it's kinda a paradox. two major adult billings are totally retarded and those with merchants and gateways are just shady fucks
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                                                                                                                                        • Kolargol
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 1319
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          I don't think most sponsors use CCBill because they like their admin area. They just bill our members really efficiently and pay us on time every time. And thet have been doing so for many years. And live chat support is actually pretty good there.

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                                                                                                                                            • MrDeiz
                                                                                                                                              SignBucksDaily.com
                                                                                                                                              • May 2008
                                                                                                                                              • 9802
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Kolargol
                                                                                                                                              I don't think most sponsors use CCBill because they like their admin area. They just bill our members really efficiently and pay us on time every time. And thet have been doing so for many years. And live chat support is actually pretty good there.
                                                                                                                                              yes, CCBill is durable, but they are exploiting the monopoly on the market, they don't want to cooperate organically with the industry
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