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  • Xplicit
    Confirmed User
    • May 2003
    • 3558

    #1

    Legal threats...... over Geo-IP promo?

    I use Geo-IP tools with several dating and webcam sponsors.

    I got this email from a surfer today...

    you have all these postings from Calvary Georgia , the population there is only about 50 people so how can you post all these woman from there it simply not true. Another false advertisment , correct it or will be pursued by D.A.
    Now I really really doubt i'll ever hear anything of it again. Besides, the source code of the page makes it obvious it's a sponsors iframe and not data coming from my server.

    But, don't you think it would be nice to take small redneck-hick towns out of geo-ip databases? (the ones used for advertising). Its like a dead giveaway that its bullshit. It should list the closest major city or something. Or at least remove any "towns".
  • stickyfingerz
    Doin fine
    • Oct 2005
    • 24984

    #2

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    • Pleasurepays
      BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
      • Aug 2002
      • 11913

      #3
      why do you think an iframe absolves you from any responsibility for what is shown on YOUR SITE. particularly when you know its BS to begin with.

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      • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
        North Coast Pimp
        • Dec 2005
        • 9395

        #4
        lol...........

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        • bl4h
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2006
          • 1282

          #5
          You cant get away with the whole remotley hosted thing. The law says that as long as its displayed under your domain, you are responsible. Its fucked up

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          • stickyfingerz
            Doin fine
            • Oct 2005
            • 24984

            #6
            Originally posted by Pleasurepays
            why do you think an iframe absolves you from any responsibility for what is shown on YOUR SITE. particularly when you know its BS to begin with.
            Whether or not its true would be hard to prove lol. Maybe the person signing up used a diff zipcode etc. Intent I would think would have to be proven. Slipper slope no?

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            • pussyluver
              Clueless OleMan
              • Mar 2003
              • 11009

              #7
              All fucked up, been pulling down those geo links. Looks really fucking stupid! That I can do all on my own.

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              • DaddyHalbucks
                A freakin' legend!
                • Feb 2004
                • 18975

                #8
                Let's assume the ad is false.

                OK.

                Where are the damages?
                Boner Money

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                • OzMan
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 9162

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Xplicit
                  ...But, don't you think it would be nice to take small redneck-hick towns out of geo-ip databases? (the ones used for advertising). Its like a dead giveaway that its bullshit. It should list the closest major city or something. Or at least remove any "towns".
                  I agree. Displaying the nearest major city would be much more believable rather than displaying any location within 100 miles or database location names that nobody would put as their location.

                  For example Las Vegas. 100% of results should say "Las Vegas" not 50% or less and the rest showing as Henderson, Boulder City, Spring Valley, Sunrise Manor or some "... historic site"

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                  • Pleasurepays
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                    • Aug 2002
                    • 11913

                    #10
                    poopy poo
                    Last edited by Pleasurepays; 12-23-2006, 08:35 PM.

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                    • Pleasurepays
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                      • Aug 2002
                      • 11913

                      #11
                      Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                      Whether or not its true would be hard to prove lol. Maybe the person signing up used a diff zipcode etc. Intent I would think would have to be proven. Slipper slope no?
                      the geo ip ads are intentionally deceptive. they are a lie.

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                      • xenilk
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 921

                        #12
                        That must have been one of the funniest thing I've read all day.
                        40$/Page PSD->XHTML/CSS Transformations

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                        • Phil
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 7659

                          #13
                          Tell him one of those girls is his wife/daughter/mom/
                          Ask Phil

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                          • -SECCO-
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2006
                            • 1145

                            #14
                            but still i believe...these remote towns and villages get more signups than only mayor city geo-ips
                            what?

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                            • Pleasurepays
                              BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 11913

                              #15
                              Originally posted by -SECCO-
                              but still i believe...these remote towns and villages get more signups than only mayor city geo-ips
                              well sure.. when you think you finally found the one girl in town that has all her teeth, you might tend to get excited.

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                              • Mr Pheer
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 22082

                                #16
                                just tell them to go eat a dick

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                                • Xplicit
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 3558

                                  #17
                                  Upon further review, it says "Girls near <CityName>".

                                  Now, you tell me what counts as 'near' someone?

                                  But, I have seen other sites say "Girls IN <CityName>", that might be a problem.

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                                  • mattz
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2001
                                    • 7697

                                    #18
                                    haha I wouldn't worry about it at all

                                    email him back and tell him to shut the fuck up

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                                    • Xplicit
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 3558

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by mattz
                                      haha I wouldn't worry about it at all
                                      Yeah im not, my point was more that some dating & webcam sites geo-ip tools are listing hundreds of profiles in towns with populations of 50 people.

                                      This probably actually hurts signups...... just somethin for you program owners to think about

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                                      • Matt 26z
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Apr 2002
                                        • 18481

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                        Let's assume the ad is false.

                                        OK.

                                        Where are the damages?
                                        What are the damages if a car dealer runs an ad for a great deal on a car they never had for sale? The bait and switch is illegal.

                                        These geo-IP personals ads are something I could see the FTC getting involved with in the future.

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                                        • who
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Aug 2003
                                          • 19593

                                          #21

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                                          • will76
                                            Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                            • May 2003
                                            • 18037

                                            #22
                                            I wouldn't be surpised at some point in the future if geo-targeting ads come under fire. It really is false advertising. It's nothing major and there are no real damages but it is missleading none the less.

                                            With that being said I do use it myself. But I don't use it like an idiot like most companies do. I always thought the page with 10 girls all from your town looked fake. How many people believe that, even if you are in a major city what are chances that all of the girls are from your town.

                                            here is a free hint for you guys. Say you have 10 girls on the page. Pick the 2 best looking ones and use the person's real location (regular geo targeting). Take 2 more girls and use a random city that is close to them. Take the last 6 girls and just use random big cities.

                                            They will still notice the girls from their city and click on them and it will be 100&#37; more believable. It's still fake, tricking them but they wont be able to notice at least and it converts a lot better.
                                            Last edited by will76; 12-23-2006, 10:13 PM.
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                                            • will76
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                                              • May 2003
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                              What are the damages if a car dealer runs an ad for a great deal on a car they never had for sale? The bait and switch is illegal.

                                              These geo-IP personals ads are something I could see the FTC getting involved with in the future.
                                              exactly. It is way down on their list of things I am sure. But I wouldn't be surprised if they do something about it one day.
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                                              • Xplicit
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • May 2003
                                                • 3558

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by will76
                                                exactly. It is way down on their list of things I am sure. But I wouldn't be surprised if they do something about it one day.
                                                All it takes is one bored DA or even Police Chief in some redneck town, trust me, these hicks are conservitive right-wing nuts, with plenty of spare time

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                                                • escorpio
                                                  doesn't fuck around.
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 23485

                                                  #25
                                                  In southern Arizona some geo ads list hot babes that live in desert ghost towns.
                                                  Last edited by escorpio; 12-26-2006, 12:02 PM.
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