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  • NinjaSteve
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Dec 2003
    • 11089

    #51
    Originally posted by stev0
    They're perfectly legal, nothing sexually explicit and they're in public... relax
    The ones I saw had some HUGE stars! Stars aren't illegal?
    ...

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    • Juilan
      Sultan of Swing
      • Feb 2004
      • 15141

      #52
      Anyone think her or the Miss USA Publicist told her to SAY she was 17 in order to try and stop the embarrasment?
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      • TheLegacy
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        • Apr 2003
        • 18244

        #53
        Originally posted by twisted Illustration
        That's a ludicrous statement ...

        It's probably true in some respects ... but I don't see how a porn forum posting these pics would get fucked when CNN, FOX News etc would be happily linking and showing them all over the place...

        Jeez.
        one of the first common sense statements made in this thread.

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        • Agent 488
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          • Feb 2006
          • 22511

          #54
          Peaches = the Rosie O'Donnell of GFY.

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          • stev0
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2003
            • 6801

            #55
            Originally posted by RawAlex
            stevo: Titty licking... and considering how strict the newer post 2257 rules are, you would need (1) a model release, and (2) proof of age. Titty licking, simulated blowjob, etc... all sexual. It was public yes, but you are only off the hook until you know she is underage (her statement) and then you are in the pooh.
            Titty licking isn't sexually explicit and simulated acts no longer fall under 2257.

            h) As used in this section?
            (1) the term ?actual sexually explicit conduct? means actual but not simulated conduct as defined in subparagraphs (A) through (D) of paragraph (2) of section 2256 of this title;
            http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...7----000-.html
            sexually explicit acts are defined in 2256 but as stated in 2257 simulated acts do not apply.
            (2)
            (A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), ?sexually explicit conduct? means actual or simulated?
            (i) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex;
            (ii) bestiality;
            (iii) masturbation;
            (iv) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or
            (v) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person;
            http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...6----000-.html

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            • stev0
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2003
              • 6801

              #56
              Originally posted by NinjaSteve
              The ones I saw had some HUGE stars! Stars aren't illegal?
              You haven't seen the good ones yet? haha

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              • stev0
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2003
                • 6801

                #57
                Originally posted by RawAlex
                stevo: Titty licking... and considering how strict the newer post 2257 rules are, you would need (1) a model release, and (2) proof of age. Titty licking, simulated blowjob, etc... all sexual. It was public yes, but you are only off the hook until you know she is underage (her statement) and then you are in the pooh.
                And on the first point. No, you wouldn't need a model release.. because it's not sexually explicit as defined in 2257. This kind of stuff is the same as spring break type content.

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                • chartgraves

                  #58
                  I have the good ones - add me on ICQ and Santa might have a Christmas gift - She was 18 at time of pictures ;)

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                  • RawAlex
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 9465

                    #59
                    stev0: You need to get with the game son. One guy went to jail for CP because he filmed kids that were clothed!

                    Plus, with the administrative clarifications that were issued (not just what is on cornell law, I know the stuff well), you require 2257 documents for pretty much everything.

                    But hey, your a lawyer. You can explain it to the FBI when they come knocking on you door asking about the 17 year old nude model on your site.

                    Idiot.

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                    • Peaches
                      Old broad
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 13933

                      #60
                      Originally posted by budsbabes
                      Peaches = the Rosie O'Donnell of GFY.
                      Yeah, we parents get a little more riled up when this shit happens. Sorry. Deal with it.

                      Ther are plenty of the exact same pics out there w/o the stars and a link to one here on GFY. PERSONALLY, if owned this board, I couldn't hit the delete fast enought JUST IN CASE.

                      Then again, I also don't think buying little boys cartoon underwear in the little boys section of the store and putting them on 18 year old models is OK either, but others says it's OK.

                      Playing is saft in the porn biz is not exactly a stupid decision. Ask Slick.

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                      • pornguy
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                        • Mar 2003
                        • 62910

                        #61
                        Remember that age does not matter in highfashion.
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                        • Peaches
                          Old broad
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 13933

                          #62
                          Originally posted by stev0
                          And on the first point. No, you wouldn't need a model release.. because it's not sexually explicit as defined in 2257. This kind of stuff is the same as spring break type content.
                          And HOW much is Joe Francis being fined and how much community service work is he doing because several of these girls were underage? Seems to me the courts think this is unacceptable.

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                          • Peaches
                            Old broad
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 13933

                            #63
                            From what I can tell, this was a warning from Alex to the monitors of the board. They are free to take whatever actions they want.

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                            • stev0
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 6801

                              #64
                              Originally posted by RawAlex
                              stev0: You need to get with the game son. One guy went to jail for CP because he filmed kids that were clothed!

                              Plus, with the administrative clarifications that were issued (not just what is on cornell law, I know the stuff well), you require 2257 documents for pretty much everything.

                              But hey, your a lawyer. You can explain it to the FBI when they come knocking on you door asking about the 17 year old nude model on your site.

                              Idiot.
                              Discussing a news topic and posting photos is completely different than selling them on a porn site. No one here is talking about selling it, they don't own the rights to the photos anyways. However i'd like to see the administrative clarifications you speak of, please cite a source.

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                              • stev0
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 6801

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Peaches
                                And HOW much is Joe Francis being fined and how much community service work is he doing because several of these girls were underage? Seems to me the courts think this is unacceptable.
                                Masturbation and lesbians sex scenes are completely different, the old style GGW flashing/party dvd's were not among the titles they pulled.

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                                • Sarah_Jayne
                                  Now with more Jayne
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 40077

                                  #66
                                  because not owning the rights to a picture has ever prevented somebody putting them on a 'celeb' site

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                                  • stev0
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 6801

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                    because not owning the rights to a picture has ever prevented somebody putting them on a 'celeb' site
                                    haha, that's a good point

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                                    • RawAlex
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Oct 2003
                                      • 9465

                                      #68
                                      stev0: GFY sells adverting on this board. This is a commercial entity. You want to play that game, GFY has no right to post about 99.9% of the pictures that show up here.

                                      My concern is GFY allowing the posting of a 17 year old nude or engaged in sexual situations (starred out or not), and also potentially that less than brilliant people (cough) will post the images on blogs or websites thinking they are free and clear because it is news. News or not, once you know she is 17 (her claim in the same media that isn't running the pics (CNN doesn't have them up)) you can't really run the images because they are nudes of a minor.

                                      as for administrative clarifications, you must have spent the last 3 years with your head in the sand somewhere. Just start that the FSC site and go look. I ain't your legal assistant.

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                                      • BLish
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2006
                                        • 444

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by chartgraves
                                        I have the good ones - She was 18 at time of pictures ;)
                                        and you know she was 18 first hand how?

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                                        • Sarah_Jayne
                                          Now with more Jayne
                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 40077

                                          #70
                                          I just don't get why anyone that worked in this industry would want anything associated with somebody legally underage anywhere near anything with their name on it.

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                                          • Peaches
                                            Old broad
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 13933

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by stev0
                                            Masturbation and lesbians sex scenes are completely different, the old style GGW flashing/party dvd's were not among the titles they pulled.
                                            Yeah, licking another girl's naked boob has nothing to do with lesbian acts.......

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                                            • stev0
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2003
                                              • 6801

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by RawAlex
                                              stev0: GFY sells adverting on this board. This is a commercial entity. You want to play that game, GFY has no right to post about 99.9% of the pictures that show up here.
                                              I'm pretty sure they don't host or post any of the photos that show up here.

                                              My concern is GFY allowing the posting of a 17 year old nude or engaged in sexual situations (starred out or not), and also potentially that less than brilliant people (cough) will post the images on blogs or websites thinking they are free and clear because it is news. News or not, once you know she is 17 (her claim in the same media that isn't running the pics (CNN doesn't have them up)) you can't really run the images because they are nudes of a minor.
                                              Maybe you guys are looking at different photos.. I don't see any nudes, just a couple of flashing photos. You're right though, its all about context. Like minors appearing topless in movies (Thora Birch was 17 in American Beauty, lots of other actresses have too), it wasn't sexual.. it was just boobs.

                                              as for administrative clarifications, you must have spent the last 3 years with your head in the sand somewhere. Just start that the FSC site and go look. I ain't your legal assistant.
                                              I hadn't heard much about it recently, which is why I asked... figured there might have been something new.

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                                              • StuBradley
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                                                • Jul 2002
                                                • 2625

                                                #73
                                                Jesus Christ. 71 replies and nobody catches that it was NOT miss USA. She was miss NEVADA!!! You guys awake?

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                                                • stev0
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                  • 6801

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by StuBradley
                                                  Jesus Christ. 71 replies and nobody catches that it was NOT miss USA. She was miss NEVADA!!! You guys awake?

                                                  Good catch

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                                                  • BLish
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jun 2006
                                                    • 444

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by StuBradley
                                                    Jesus Christ. 71 replies and nobody catches that it was NOT miss USA. She was miss NEVADA!!! You guys awake?
                                                    i already knew that. it's all over the media for petes sake. just wanted to know how someone knew what her age was when this took place?

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                                                    • Peaches
                                                      Old broad
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 13933

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by StuBradley
                                                      Jesus Christ. 71 replies and nobody catches that it was NOT miss USA. She was miss NEVADA!!! You guys awake?
                                                      They called her "Miss Nevada USA" and she was a Miss USA contestant.

                                                      SHE has said she was 17 when the lesbian boobie licking pictures were taken.

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                                                      • Peaches
                                                        Old broad
                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 13933

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by stev0
                                                        Maybe you guys are looking at different photos.. I don't see any nudes, just a couple of flashing photos. You're right though, its all about context. Like minors appearing topless in movies (Thora Birch was 17 in American Beauty, lots of other actresses have too), it wasn't sexual.. it was just boobs.
                                                        .
                                                        She's and another girl are licking each other's naked boobs. I'm not a prude (well, I am ) but posting pictures of lesbian boob licking action where at least one participant is 17 is just stooooopid.

                                                        And the link to the non-starred pics is posted here too.

                                                        Like I said, it's GFY's call, not mine. But I wouldn't be caught with that crap on my board - especially being so involved with Playboy.

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                                                        • RawAlex
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                          • 9465

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by stev0
                                                          I'm pretty sure they don't host or post any of the photos that show up here.
                                                          Ahhh! So if I run a blog but I put all the pictures on flickr or whatever, I can run CP stuff all I want without issue?

                                                          stupid is as stupid does.

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                                                          • chartgraves

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by stev0

                                                            Good catch
                                                            I already pointed it out on Page 1

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                                                            • anne
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                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                              • 1149

                                                              #80
                                                              LOL yea that girl has porn written all over her. Whoever can snag her can ride the publicity all the way to the bank.
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                                                              • Agent 488
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                                                                • Feb 2006
                                                                • 22511

                                                                #81
                                                                watch out!



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                                                                • 4Man
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Nov 2006
                                                                  • 3830

                                                                  #82
                                                                  That is fucking - young.

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                                                                  • emthree
                                                                    Dialer Kingpin
                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 10816

                                                                    #83
                                                                    17 and how many months? ;)

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                                                                    • CDSmith
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                      • 51460

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                      CD, have you seen the pics w/o the stars? She wasn't completely clothed. 17 year olds with their breast hanging out and licking each other's breasts is CP IMO (and probably the opinion of a judge). Putting a star on a nipple doesn't make it any better.
                                                                      Have you read the wording in the criminal code of the USA or Canada? Both contain wording such as "explicit nudity" and "sexualized" and the like. Images must have a specific obvious purpose, not implied but implicit. Intent of usage is mentioned as well.

                                                                      Read Regina v. Sharpe sometime, it leaves no room for ambiguous clothed partial nudity photos with nothing blatantly sexualized. Maybe... just maybe, if those photos were displayed in an adult porn pay site and portrayed in a highly sexual way THEN they could be considered in violation. But that's not the case here, they are on message boards and news sites only, as far as I know of it.

                                                                      And I can't believe you people would think that news agencies would be promoting CP anyway. It simply isn't CP, it's a bunch of photos of a 17 yr old acting a bit slutty, big deal.



                                                                      The rest of you can argue all you want, but this is not CP. People need to learn what consitutes CP rather than give unqualified opinions about it.
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                                                                      • CDSmith
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                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                        • 51460

                                                                        #85
                                                                        I'm sure 17 yr old girls post much racier pics on their personal home pages and in their myspace pages all the time, but these particular ones are magically CP??

                                                                        Noop, sorry.
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                                                                        • JimBarnett
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                                                                          • Apr 2002
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          Holy Shit, all day and nobody does the math? She said the pictures were taken 3 years ago. 22-3=19

                                                                          Reps for Rees have issued a new statement admitting she was 19 at the time the photos were taken.
                                                                          http://www.tmz.com/2006/12/21/naught...-of-her-title/

                                                                          As always, good catch Alex.

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                                                                          • Twisted Dave
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                                                                            • Mar 2006
                                                                            • 3635

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by stev0
                                                                            Thora Birch was 17 in American Beauty
                                                                            Exactly...


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                                                                            • LA Mike
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                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 3056

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by twisted Illustration
                                                                              She's hot and I'd happily have had a good time with her :D

                                                                              ;) 17 IS legal here in the UK you know!
                                                                              And in Canada... so i'll go there to look... cuz she's hot! lol

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                                                                              • Splum
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                • 6195

                                                                                #89
                                                                                She was 19 in the pics lol

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                                                                                • Peaches
                                                                                  Old broad
                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 13933

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by JimBarnett
                                                                                  Holy Shit, all day and nobody does the math? She said the pictures were taken 3 years ago. 22-3=19

                                                                                  Reps for Rees have issued a new statement admitting she was 19 at the time the photos were taken.
                                                                                  http://www.tmz.com/2006/12/21/naught...-of-her-title/

                                                                                  As always, good catch Alex.
                                                                                  Yes, I would always trust a PR firm doing some spin action than a girl who actually there herself. Especially when it's a "PS...."

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                                                                                  • Peaches
                                                                                    Old broad
                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                    • 13933

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Not to mention, people THOUGHT she was 17 when they posted the links. I guess no one cares these days as long as you'd "hit it", lol

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                                                                                    • Doctor Dre
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 51692

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      she's fucking miss NEVADA... it just fits the title.
                                                                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                      • shekinah
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                                                                                        • May 2006
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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        It's nice to bee young and hot.. Thanks for the pics

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