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  • AaronM
    GFY Royality ;)
    • Oct 2001
    • 46917

    #151
    Originally posted by alias
    Mutt, I almost forgot to mention that your girls are super hot.

    Always.

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    • PR_Dave
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2003
      • 2792

      #152
      Originally posted by Mutt
      It sounds to me like Dave got pissed at Nick for posting on GFY that he was the producer of the sites he shot for Pimproll. Some program owners don't like when shooters do that, they don't want their competitors to know their business including who's shooting for them.
      BINGO!!! too bad Nicky and others didn't get it. Also CougarSexClub and BigTitsLikeBigDicks were both horrible sellers. BubblyMassage was not bought by PimpRoll it was added to the program under our content partnership program.

      Phil and Matt are still with PimpRoll so don't count on them working with you any time soon.

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      • Loch
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2002
        • 7674

        #153
        Originally posted by AaronM
        Just to clarify.....the neutered bitch and the pissy wife are two different entities?


        WTF are maple beans?

        Sorry to hear about your hand.


        Heinz Maple style beans.....they are actually pretty damn good!
        Once/Twice a year type of thing.

        Take your english style baked beans "Canned", only the sauce is Canadian maple sirup flavored
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        • Juicy D. Links
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 122992

          #154
          I am a fucking stallion... I should be owned by a middle eastern shiek

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          • alias
            aliasx
            • Apr 2001
            • 19010

            #155
            Was it you who had that British TV episode with the wannabe pornstars that couldn't get hard?

            Originally posted by JustDaveXxx
            Yes i do.


            But airing it on the boards is not my style. I am the type of guy that likes to raise my issues that i have with the people I have them with. That is usually best done when i see them.



            But i do know Nick is a pretty stand up guy who has an impeccable reputation as a shooter and as a person. 25 years in this business and nobody can say anything bad about him. He doesn't post a lot because he is always working.


            I got no Ill will with anybody i have ever worked for and if i ever did, i would not post it here.


            Happy Thanks Giving everyone..
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            • JFK
              FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
              • Jan 2002
              • 67369

              #156
              Originally posted by Honez
              I am speechless. So I will just say


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              • LoveSandra
                So Fucking Banned
                • Aug 2008
                • 10551

                #157
                ahahahahahahahahahahahah

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                • JustDaveXxx
                  I AM JUSTDAVE !
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 4111

                  #158
                  Originally posted by alias
                  Was it you who had that British TV episode with the wannabe pornstars that couldn't get hard?
                  Yup. Was funny as shit! Tried out a lot of guys, that time it got recorded.lol


                  Its on GFY somewhere.


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                  • PR_Glen
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 9058

                    #159
                    Originally posted by Oracle Porn
                    while we are at it can I get an xbox for 20k PimpPoints? the store looks pretty outdated and I wouldn't mind replacing my banned one
                    Yeah, we are usually are pretty busy around here and I think updating the rewards store is far down on the list unfortunately!

                    HOWEVER, the good news is we have always let our webmasters order anything they want as long as it can be ordered online and delivered to where you are at so hit us up and we will take care of what you want, not to worry.

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                    • uno
                      RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 18450

                      #160
                      Originally posted by MaDalton
                      when you have an ego problem shoot your own sites and market them yourself

                      we have shot tons of scenes for various sites and no one knows that we did that. we are paid to shoot content, not to diminish a clients brand by drawing attention to us

                      Ask AaronM - i hardly remember reading any post from him in the last 6 years where he mentioned any client he is working for
                      He was talking about Little Lupe for a while.
                      -uno
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                      • Shap
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2001
                        • 8313

                        #161
                        Originally posted by Mutt
                        It sounds to me like Dave got pissed at Nick for posting on GFY that he was the producer of the sites he shot for Pimproll. Some program owners don't like when shooters do that, they don't want their competitors to know their business including who's shooting for them.

                        and Brazzers are not stand up guys to anybody - they led the way when it comes to stealing the hard work of hundreds of producers and still do it to this day.
                        I have to side with Dave on this one. Shooters and content production is a huge part of a company's competitive advantage. If the information isn't public it's definitely important to the site owner that it doesn't come out.

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                        • AaronM
                          GFY Royality ;)
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 46917

                          #162
                          Originally posted by uno
                          He was talking about Little Lupe for a while.

                          When the client pays thousands of dollars to buy your GFY sig and asks you to post about them.....

                          Most companies pay me to shoot for them, not advertise for them.

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                          • PR_Dave
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 2792

                            #163
                            Originally posted by Shap
                            I have to side with Dave on this one. Shooters and content production is a huge part of a company's competitive advantage. If the information isn't public it's definitely important to the site owner that it doesn't come out.
                            Unfortunately these few did not realize that.

                            Either they would post images from the set a month before the site was updated or they would post how awesome it was to shoot the scene. Did they have PimpRoll ads in their sigs? No. Did they ask permission? No.

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                            • Loch
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 7674

                              #164
                              Originally posted by PR_Dave
                              Unfortunately these few did not realize that.

                              Either they would post images from the set a month before the site was updated or they would post how awesome it was to shoot the scene. Did they have PimpRoll ads in their sigs? No. Did they ask permission? No.
                              Start using NDA's "Shouldent have to but its good practice"
                              I cant remember when i dident sign one.....not that its needed here, but its good practice.

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                              • Shap
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2001
                                • 8313

                                #165
                                Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                Unfortunately these few did not realize that.

                                Either they would post images from the set a month before the site was updated or they would post how awesome it was to shoot the scene. Did they have PimpRoll ads in their sigs? No. Did they ask permission? No.
                                I know. I remember the situation. I've seen it with a few others as well. Anytime you launch a new site it's KEY the competition doesn't see it coming. If they do the last way you want them to find out is a GFY post.

                                I think people forget finding out the niche, style, or models being shot for a site before the site is launched is a huge hit to the company launching it.

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                                • AaronM
                                  GFY Royality ;)
                                  • Oct 2001
                                  • 46917

                                  #166
                                  Originally posted by Shap
                                  I think people forget finding out the niche, style, or models being shot for a site before the site is launched is a huge hit to the company launching it.

                                  Do you really think they forget? Maybe they don't consider or care about it in the first place. Many people have the "me first" attitude.

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                                  • Shap
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2001
                                    • 8313

                                    #167
                                    Originally posted by AaronM
                                    Do you really think they forget? Maybe they don't consider or care about it in the first place. Many people have the "me first" attitude.
                                    True. Instead of being happy with the contract work they have from the one client they try to parlay it into even more work by using that company's name.

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                                    • PR_Dave
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 2792

                                      #168
                                      Originally posted by Shap
                                      True. Instead of being happy with the contract work they have from the one client they try to parlay it into even more work by using that company's name.
                                      Then end up with no work.

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                                      • AaronM
                                        GFY Royality ;)
                                        • Oct 2001
                                        • 46917

                                        #169
                                        Originally posted by Shap
                                        True. Instead of being happy with the contract work they have from the one client they try to parlay it into even more work by using that company's name.
                                        I can see it two different ways.

                                        1: As you mentioned. (greed)

                                        2: They are proud of their work and excited to share it. (pride)

                                        Either way...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins

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                                        • Shap
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2001
                                          • 8313

                                          #170
                                          Originally posted by AaronM
                                          I can see it two different ways.

                                          1: As you mentioned. (greed)

                                          2: They are proud of their work and excited to share it. (pride)

                                          Either way...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins
                                          True. For #2 the work is for another company and not their property. So they should get permission.

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                                          • Roald
                                            SecretFriends.com
                                            • May 2001
                                            • 27910

                                            #171
                                            Originally posted by Shap
                                            True. For #2 the work is for another company and not their property. So they should get permission.
                                            they should get some business sense and permissions wouldn't be needed to start with


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                                            • AaronM
                                              GFY Royality ;)
                                              • Oct 2001
                                              • 46917

                                              #172
                                              Originally posted by Roald
                                              they should get some business sense and permissions wouldn't be needed to start with

                                              Partially true.

                                              Having good business sense can include getting permission if you intend to post the pics.

                                              I have the standard Work for Hire agreements with many companies but I also have permission from each one to use the images on portfolios, sample pages, and so forth.

                                              Good business sense comes into play by not abusing the clients generosity.

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                                              • james_clickmemedia
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Apr 2003
                                                • 2204

                                                #173
                                                Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                                Unfortunately these few did not realize that.

                                                Either they would post images from the set a month before the site was updated or they would post how awesome it was to shoot the scene. Did they have PimpRoll ads in their sigs? No. Did they ask permission? No.
                                                Don't even get me started on content producers....
                                                I will say paying content producers for over 12 years overall has been a positive experience, however trying it has been at times.

                                                I am with Dave 100% on this, he paid for the shoots, owns all the rights so he should be able to control the distribution.
                                                Don't most content producers shoot on a "work for hire" basis!

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                                                • james_clickmemedia
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                  • 2204

                                                  #174
                                                  Originally posted by AaronM
                                                  Partially true.

                                                  Having good business sense can include getting permission if you intend to post the pics.

                                                  I have the standard Work for Hire agreements with many companies but I also have permission from each one to use the images on portfolios, sample pages, and so forth.

                                                  Good business sense comes into play by not abusing the clients generosity.
                                                  Exactly... simple when you know what you are doing.
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                                                  • Roald
                                                    SecretFriends.com
                                                    • May 2001
                                                    • 27910

                                                    #175
                                                    Originally posted by AaronM
                                                    Partially true.

                                                    Having good business sense can include getting permission if you intend to post the pics.

                                                    I have the standard Work for Hire agreements with many companies but I also have permission from each one to use the images on portfolios, sample pages, and so forth.

                                                    Good business sense comes into play by not abusing the clients generosity.
                                                    Ofcourse, was just saying that some people should think a bit before acting. Specially when it's their income ;)))

                                                    PS, you never mailed me the model info!
                                                    Last edited by Roald; 11-27-2009, 12:30 PM.


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                                                    • AaronM
                                                      GFY Royality ;)
                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                      • 46917

                                                      #176
                                                      Originally posted by Roald
                                                      Ofcourse, was just saying that some people should think a bit before acting. Specially when it's their income ;)))

                                                      PS, you never mailed me the model info!

                                                      TBH, there are three reasons for that.

                                                      1: When I tried editing the info again, I was told that the edit request had been denied twice before and your system asked if I wanted to submit again. I said yes but I'm sure it was denied anyway.

                                                      2: Although I own the site in question, most people do not know I own it and I like to keep it that way. Knowing that, if you are contacted about it, it will not be by me. ;)

                                                      3: I said "fuck it" and bought the alias domain then pointed it to the proper site. Problem kinda solved without bothering you.

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                                                      • Roald
                                                        SecretFriends.com
                                                        • May 2001
                                                        • 27910

                                                        #177
                                                        Originally posted by AaronM
                                                        TBH, there are three reasons for that.

                                                        1: When I tried editing the info again, I was told that the edit request had been denied twice before and your system asked if I wanted to submit again. I said yes but I'm sure it was denied anyway.

                                                        2: Although I own the site in question, most people do not know I own it and I like to keep it that way. Knowing that, if you are contacted about it, it will not be by me. ;)

                                                        3: I said "fuck it" and bought the alias domain then pointed it to the proper site. Problem kinda solved without bothering you.
                                                        I wish more people would solve problems without bothering me lol

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                                                        • marcop
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                          • 4150

                                                          #178
                                                          Originally posted by Mutt
                                                          It sounds to me like Dave got pissed at Nick for posting on GFY that he was the producer of the sites he shot for Pimproll. Some program owners don't like when shooters do that, they don't want their competitors to know their business including who's shooting for them.
                                                          LOL... you should know that, Mutt. I remember you told me you approached a site owner as you were trying to get hold of me because you liked my work, and he told you to "Fuck Off".

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                                                          • Mutt
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                            • 34431

                                                            #179
                                                            Originally posted by marcop
                                                            LOL... you should know that, Mutt. I remember you told me you approached a site owner as you were trying to get hold of me because you liked my work, and he told you to "Fuck Off".
                                                            haha yes - i was a big fan of Marco's work on SocalCoeds and sent the owner a very polite email asking how to contact the shooter. Andreas is classy, his reply was 'fuck off'.

                                                            shame what happened to SocalCoeds - one of the legendary teen sites.
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                                                            • SleazyDream
                                                              I'm here for SPORT
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 41470

                                                              #180
                                                              Originally posted by Shap
                                                              I have to side with Dave on this one. Shooters and content production is a huge part of a company's competitive advantage. If the information isn't public it's definitely important to the site owner that it doesn't come out.
                                                              i'm on the same page here too............
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                                                              Now read without the word dog.

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                                                              • nickey1952
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Oct 2004
                                                                • 683

                                                                #181
                                                                Here is the funny part to all of this, I did not create the porn.com logo, It was sent to me from porn.com and every image that was posted was after the site launch and with the permission of the content manager at the time. I do not randomly post stuff that is not suppose to be. I rest my case, enjoy the rest of the weekend.
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                                                                • RadicalSights
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Mar 2009
                                                                  • 1595

                                                                  #182
                                                                  pimproll drama?

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                                                                  • Sabby
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                    • 2888

                                                                    #183
                                                                    Originally posted by sextoyking
                                                                    Nice pics Mutt

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                                                                    • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                                      • 11190

                                                                      #184
                                                                      Damn, no more seats on the front row.
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                                                                      • ianlester
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Sep 2007
                                                                        • 207

                                                                        #185
                                                                        Originally posted by Shap
                                                                        True. For #2 the work is for another company and not their property. So they should get permission.
                                                                        This makes perfect sense to me too.
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                                                                        • ReggieDurango
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Nov 2007
                                                                          • 4784

                                                                          #186
                                                                          this is fucking awesome

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                                                                          • Grapesoda
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                            • 46234

                                                                            #187
                                                                            Originally posted by borked
                                                                            Somebody yank the rain chain to flush the loo?
                                                                            somebody peed in his cheerios I'm guessing

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                                                                            • JFK
                                                                              FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                              • 67369

                                                                              #188
                                                                              Originally posted by ReggieDurango
                                                                              this is fucking awesome
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                                                                              • PR_Dave
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                • 2792

                                                                                #189
                                                                                Originally posted by ReggieDurango
                                                                                this is fucking awesome
                                                                                It is Justin! It is!!

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                                                                                • The Porn Nerd
                                                                                  Living The Dream
                                                                                  • Jun 2009
                                                                                  • 19780

                                                                                  #190
                                                                                  Well this thread was fun!
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                                                                                  • Relentless
                                                                                    www.EngineFood.com
                                                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                                                    • 5697

                                                                                    #191
                                                                                    Interesting to see the trajectory of GFY vs the trajectory of PIMPROLL since the time of the original post. If anything, I think it's pretty clear in hindsight that if PRDave had bought GFY in '09 he would have done at least as well with it as it has done for itself.

                                                                                    No idea what happened to Don on the other hand...


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                                                                                    • ReggieDurango
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Nov 2007
                                                                                      • 4784

                                                                                      #192
                                                                                      Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                                                                      It is Justin! It is!!

                                                                                      Need drama like this on the regular
                                                                                      it's been quite dry around here

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                                                                                      • DAMNMAN
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                                        • 1440

                                                                                        #193
                                                                                        Originally posted by JackJones75
                                                                                        Haven't worked for Dave for months. And of course I was fired! Really, is there a better way to leave? ;-)

                                                                                        But don't think for a second that I'm some disgruntled former employee!!! LOL!

                                                                                        It was a godsend!

                                                                                        Only reason I'm lurking today (haven't been on GFY since I left PIMPROLL) is because the dude needs an ego check.

                                                                                        Just saying things people with smaller balls won't.

                                                                                        I'm not in the industry and really don't care anymore.

                                                                                        And please don't mistake this for bitterness.

                                                                                        That would suggest that I miss working for Dave.

                                                                                        Truth is, I never liked him as a person. Ever.

                                                                                        IMO, he exudes evil and have the personality of an ashtray.

                                                                                        Soooo.... He fired you but you aren't pissed?
                                                                                        And you aren't in the industry and don't care, but you are on GFY lurking?
                                                                                        Makes sense......

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                                                                                        • Phoenix
                                                                                          BACON BACON BACON
                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                          • 35475

                                                                                          #194
                                                                                          So...how is porn.com doing?
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                                                                                          • PR_Dave
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                            • 2792

                                                                                            #195
                                                                                            Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                                                            So...how is porn.com doing?
                                                                                            It does....ok.

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                                                                                            • Phoenix
                                                                                              BACON BACON BACON
                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                              • 35475

                                                                                              #196
                                                                                              Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                                                                              It does....ok.
                                                                                              Sweet. I know pimproll comverted nicely last time
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                                                                                              • PR_Dave
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                                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                                • 2792

                                                                                                #197
                                                                                                Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                                                                Sweet. I know pimproll comverted nicely last time
                                                                                                I heard that too.

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                                                                                                • PR_Dave
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                  • 2792

                                                                                                  #198
                                                                                                  Originally posted by ReggieDurango
                                                                                                  Need drama like this on the regular
                                                                                                  it's been quite dry around here
                                                                                                  We don't. We need a conduit to all do more business. Drama is a distraction from making money. You wasted everyone's time pulling out a thread from 2009 that was started by a disgruntled ex-employee.

                                                                                                  A solid meaningful biz thread trumps "drama" 10 to 1.

                                                                                                  The only good that came of this is my new sig banner.

                                                                                                  New 2015 compliant PimpRoll launching next month

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                                                                                                  • ReggieDurango
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                                                                                                    • Nov 2007
                                                                                                    • 4784

                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                    Originally posted by PR_Dave
                                                                                                    We don't. We need a conduit to all do more business. Drama is a distraction from making money. You wasted everyone's time pulling out a thread from 2009 that was started by a disgruntled ex-employee.

                                                                                                    A solid meaningful biz thread trumps "drama" 10 to 1.
                                                                                                    OK "Dad", guess the kids aren't allowed to have any fun this winter.

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                                                                                                    • ReggieDurango
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                                                                                                      • Nov 2007
                                                                                                      • 4784

                                                                                                      #200
                                                                                                      KARMA Bump

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