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  • Tempest
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • May 2004
    • 10217

    #1

    KingHost, XFreeHosting, 3Wisp, CleanAdultHost down. DirectNic is the registrar.

    Coincidence? You sure you want to trust your business with DirecNic?

    I have galleries on there.. So if it is in fact due to them, now they're effecting my business with their actions.
    Last edited by Tempest; 12-16-2006, 05:22 PM.
  • scottybuzz
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • May 2006
    • 14799

    #2
    I never visted those sites, but what type of content is on there? same as slicks?
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    • scottybuzz
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • May 2006
      • 14799

      #3
      infact they all look like hosting domains, whats going on there?
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      • spacedog
        Yes that IS me. Bitch.
        • Nov 2001
        • 14149

        #4
        Originally posted by scottybuzz
        infact they all look like hosting domains, whats going on there?
        They're all free hosts.

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        • Matt 26z
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2002
          • 18481

          #5
          Originally posted by scottybuzz
          infact they all look like hosting domains, whats going on there?
          All owned by the same company. The largest, most reputable freehost. TheHun even allows submits using them.

          I would certainly hope DirectNic didn't pull the plug on them. It would be a very dangerous thing if a registrar policed user controlled services.

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          • BoyAlley
            So Fucking Gay
            • Nov 2004
            • 19714

            #6
            They don't appear to be on registrar lock, and all use their own private name servers, and although I don't know for sure, I'd say this is probably a connectivity issue with those at this point.

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            • Spudstr
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2003
              • 2321

              #7
              Originally posted by BoyAlley
              They don't appear to be on registrar lock, and all use their own private name servers, and although I don't know for sure, I'd say this is probably a connectivity issue with those at this point.
              looks to be on lock to me.

              Domain Name: KINGHOST.COM
              Registrar: INTERCOSMOS MEDIA GROUP, INC. D/B/A DIRECTNIC.COM
              Whois Server: whois.directnic.com
              Referral URL: http://www.directnic.com
              Name Server: NS1.KINGHOST.COM
              Name Server: NS0.KINGHOST.COM
              RRP Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
              Status: clientUpdateProhibited
              Status: clientTransferProhibited
              Status: clientDeleteProhibited
              Updated Date: 20-Oct-2006
              Creation Date: 21-Aug-2001
              Expiration Date: 21-Aug-2008
              Managed Hosting - Colocation - Network Services
              Yellow Fiber Networks
              icq: 19876563

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              • stickyfingerz
                Doin fine
                • Oct 2005
                • 24984

                #8
                Originally posted by Spudstr
                looks to be on lock to me.

                Domain Name: KINGHOST.COM
                Registrar: INTERCOSMOS MEDIA GROUP, INC. D/B/A DIRECTNIC.COM
                Whois Server: whois.directnic.com
                Referral URL: http://www.directnic.com
                Name Server: NS1.KINGHOST.COM
                Name Server: NS0.KINGHOST.COM
                RRP Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
                Status: clientUpdateProhibited
                Status: clientTransferProhibited
                Status: clientDeleteProhibited
                Updated Date: 20-Oct-2006
                Creation Date: 21-Aug-2001
                Expiration Date: 21-Aug-2008
                this is about to get nasty folks.....

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                • Spudstr
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2321

                  #9
                  Yeah, all of kinghosts domains are on lock.

                  Thats pretty fucked up.
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                  • stickyfingerz
                    Doin fine
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 24984

                    #10
                    Status: clientTransferProhibited

                    Status: clientTransferProhibited

                    Status: clientTransferProhibited

                    Status: clientTransferProhibited

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                    • digifan
                      The Profiler
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 14618

                      #11
                      Even the Hun is accepting galleries on kinghost... what's this world is coming to? ;(
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                      • BoyAlley
                        So Fucking Gay
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 19714

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Spudstr
                        looks to be on lock to me.

                        Domain Name: KINGHOST.COM
                        Registrar: INTERCOSMOS MEDIA GROUP, INC. D/B/A DIRECTNIC.COM
                        Whois Server: whois.directnic.com
                        Referral URL: http://www.directnic.com
                        Name Server: NS1.KINGHOST.COM
                        Name Server: NS0.KINGHOST.COM
                        RRP Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
                        Status: clientUpdateProhibited
                        Status: clientTransferProhibited
                        Status: clientDeleteProhibited
                        Updated Date: 20-Oct-2006
                        Creation Date: 21-Aug-2001
                        Expiration Date: 21-Aug-2008
                        Ah, you're right, sorry about that. I usually use whois.sc and it hasn't reflected these changes yet. I just looked it up directly through internic and it is indeed showing a registrar lock.
                        Last edited by BoyAlley; 12-16-2006, 06:40 PM.

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                        • JD
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 22651

                          #13
                          what the fuck...

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                          • digifan
                            The Profiler
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 14618

                            #14
                            Or should I say "used to"?
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                            • stickyfingerz
                              Doin fine
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 24984

                              #15
                              wow people should be all over this thread....

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                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 28609

                                #16
                                wtf kinghost is a pretty damn big adult host , that is going to put a huge crimp in some traffic..

                                But hey all it takes is anyone to make any allegation and it seems directnic will pull the plug until you prove yourself innocent. This is not looking good at all. I have never seen any correlation between cp and the sites mentioned above.
                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                • crockett
                                  in a van by the river
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 76818

                                  #17
                                  Jesus if this is true Directnic just signed it's death sentence in Adult. I don't see how even the DN ass kissers could still stand behind them if DN shut down more adult sites.

                                  Should be interesting if this turns out to be true.. are you sure the status stuff doesn't just mean the domain is locked?
                                  In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                  • Spudstr
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2003
                                    • 2321

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                    wtf kinghost is a pretty damn big adult host , that is going to put a huge crimp in some traffic..

                                    But hey all it takes is anyone to make any allegation and it seems directnic will pull the plug until you prove yourself innocent. This is not looking good at all. I have never seen any correlation between cp and the sites mentioned above.
                                    Well we have no idea exactly how much pressure DN is getting from the FBI to "look into this" because this is DN's responsibility for selling/controlling the domain.

                                    Maybe DN is getting shit and is covering their ass.

                                    Put yourself in DNs shoes....
                                    Managed Hosting - Colocation - Network Services
                                    Yellow Fiber Networks
                                    icq: 19876563

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                                    • mrgica
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 2169

                                      #19
                                      judgment day is coming kids
                                      Fuck it dude, lets go bowling

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                                      • devilspost
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2004
                                        • 3980

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by crockett
                                        Jesus if this is true Directnic just signed it's death sentence in Adult. I don't see how even the DN ass kissers could still stand behind them if DN shut down more adult sites.

                                        Should be interesting if this turns out to be true.. are you sure the status stuff doesn't just mean the domain is locked?
                                        Serge say they will only loose a few k so who cares.

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                                        • spasmo
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2005
                                          • 2678

                                          #21
                                          Regardless of why they're down, this explains why some of my biggest trades ate shit today. Ugh.

                                          Surfers: Go here for hot babes.

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                                          • BoyAlley
                                            So Fucking Gay
                                            • Nov 2004
                                            • 19714

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Spudstr
                                            Well we have no idea exactly how much pressure DN is getting from the FBI to "look into this" because this is DN's responsibility for selling/controlling the domain.

                                            Maybe DN is getting shit and is covering their ass.

                                            Put yourself in DNs shoes....

                                            Here's what one industry attorney has to say about a registrar's legal liability for content appearing on domains:

                                            ?There?s absolutely no legal liability for the registrar if underage models appear on a website. DirectNIC is an officious intermeddler.?
                                            http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/F...view&coid=1014

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                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                              • Jun 2004
                                              • 28609

                                              #23
                                              i think this is just a glitch unrelated that would be foolish for them..
                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                              • BoyAlley
                                                So Fucking Gay
                                                • Nov 2004
                                                • 19714

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by spasmo
                                                Regardless of why they're down,

                                                Yes, let's not jump to TOO many conclusions until we're 100% certain that DirectNic pulled them down for "TOS Violations". Anybody know anyone from KingHost they can contact to end the speculation?

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                                                • JD
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                  • 22651

                                                  #25
                                                  ive got a feeling this is going to snowball into some serious shit....

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                                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                    • 28609

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Spudstr
                                                    Well we have no idea exactly how much pressure DN is getting from the FBI to "look into this" because this is DN's responsibility for selling/controlling the domain.

                                                    Maybe DN is getting shit and is covering their ass.

                                                    Put yourself in DNs shoes....

                                                    Directnic isnt exactly the biggest fish around and certainly not a very big fish when it comes to shady shit.. I cant see what kind of pressure they could be giving them.. Trying to charge directnic criminally with in some way being complicit in cp would be pretty groundbreaking news in the industry and i would expect they would go for someone larger.. If we allow the DOJ to simply "tell" us whats bad and what isnt , it wont be long before the man behind the curtain tells us what is ok to read see and think..
                                                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                    • BoyAlley
                                                      So Fucking Gay
                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                      • 19714

                                                      #27
                                                      Hrm. I'm still showing:

                                                      Name Server: NS0.KINGHOST.COM
                                                      Name Server: NS1.KINGHOST.COM

                                                      Don't think we'd be seeing that if DirectNic axed them.....

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                                                      • spasmo
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Dec 2005
                                                        • 2678

                                                        #28
                                                        They are back up! Woo hoo! (checked kinghost and 3wisp)

                                                        Surfers: Go here for hot babes.

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                                                        • datatank
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                          • 5471

                                                          #29
                                                          Chill out people
                                                          http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?do...rog_id=godaddy


                                                          NS4.YAHOO.COM
                                                          NS5.YAHOO.COM
                                                          NS1.YAHOO.COM
                                                          NS2.YAHOO.COM
                                                          NS3.YAHOO.COM

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                                                          Registry Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
                                                          Registry Status: clientUpdateProhibited
                                                          Registry Status: clientTransferProhibited
                                                          Registry Status: clientDeleteProhibited

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                                                          • spasmo
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Dec 2005
                                                            • 2678

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by BoyAlley
                                                            Hrm. I'm still showing:

                                                            Name Server: NS0.KINGHOST.COM
                                                            Name Server: NS1.KINGHOST.COM

                                                            Don't think we'd be seeing that if DirectNic axed them.....
                                                            Yeah. Seems to have been a coincidence. Glad everybody didn't jump their shit before knowing anything.

                                                            Surfers: Go here for hot babes.

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                                                            • Brujah
                                                              Beer Money Baron
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 22157

                                                              #31
                                                              LOL people.. wow..

                                                              REGISTRAR-LOCK is normal.

                                                              You would be looking for active domains turning to REGISTRAR-HOLD.

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                                                              • BoyAlley
                                                                So Fucking Gay
                                                                • Nov 2004
                                                                • 19714

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                LOL people.. wow..

                                                                REGISTRAR-LOCK is normal.

                                                                You would be looking for active domains turning to REGISTRAR-HOLD.

                                                                Yeah, everything's looking normal. Only thing that got me confused for a minute is the difference in status between several whois databases. They must have been actively making changes.

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                                                                • directfiesta
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 30178

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                  wow people should be all over this thread....
                                                                  no drama
                                                                  Last edited by directfiesta; 12-16-2006, 07:29 PM.
                                                                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                  • Tempest
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • May 2004
                                                                    • 10217

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Back up.. hopefully it had nothing to do with DirectNic.. on the other hand I can see this exact type of thing happening.

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                                                                    • BigDeanEvans
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Apr 2006
                                                                      • 1368

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by devilspost
                                                                      Serge say they will only loose a few k so who cares.
                                                                      well my 500+ domains are gone after this

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                                                                      • [Dan]
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                        • 143

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Sorry guys, it's not Directnic related.. Cogent had a fiber cut at 8:05am which isolated the Montreal network from the rest of the Net, it lasted ~15 hours!! What's unfortunate is we're in the process of turning up BGP sessions with our providers and a couple of days later this outage wouldn't have affected us.

                                                                        However I must point out the recent Directnic drama had us wondering, as you can imagine it happens from time to time in the freehosting business that we receive cp complaints (it's very rare and we review uploads by our members but we can always miss some stuff). I'm not sure how they would react if they were cc'ed one of the complaints.

                                                                        BTW thanks for your worries

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                                                                        • spasmo
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Dec 2005
                                                                          • 2678

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by BigDeanEvans
                                                                          well my 500+ domains are gone after this
                                                                          There is nothing to indicate that this incident had anything to do with DirectNIC.

                                                                          Edit: What Dan said above.

                                                                          Surfers: Go here for hot babes.

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                                                                          • madawgz
                                                                            8.8.8.8
                                                                            • Mar 2006
                                                                            • 30509

                                                                            #38
                                                                            everything seems to be working now, thats good
                                                                            TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

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                                                                            • pornonada
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                                              • 440

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by [Dan]
                                                                              However I must point out the recent Directnic drama had us wondering, as you can imagine it happens from time to time in the freehosting business that we receive cp complaints (it's very rare and we review uploads by our members but we can always miss some stuff)
                                                                              I'am not a free host expert, but i could imagine that exactly NOBODY or in digits, 0%, of the webmasters using your free service and hosting his galleries or whatever with you have the 2257 docs and papers for the content he has on his galleries/your host. This said, i doubt you EVER will be able to be confirm with the DirectNic TOS, means again that some simple complaints from one of your competitors, from an asshole, from a self declared internet censorist or someone just boring and writing complains all the day can/should/could bring down your whole internet business. Having in mind that you/your company is the Registrant i guess the DirectNic legal department will contact you for age verifications and similars.
                                                                              Having in mind that on Slick's sites are about 200 galleries per site i guess there are 10.000's if not 100.000's or even more galleries and sites on your host(s).

                                                                              Originally posted by '[Dan
                                                                              ; I'm not sure how they would react if they were cc'ed one of the complaints.
                                                                              Someone can only guess and imagine what would and could happen. But i wonder if people really feel comfortable asking themself such question: " I'am not sure what would be happe?". I guess free hosting is a lucrative business, i also guess you made major investements and whatever not and i guess that a termination of your account/domains for a week or so could/would bring down your whole business.

                                                                              I don't understand why someone is risking that much only due a domain registration which is in the US$ 10 range. Furthermore there is NOT 1 point in their TOS, NOT 1 argument that they are better as any other registar, even reverse. If you compare their TOS with other Registrars TOS's you will see that you are nothing more than someone having rights to pay at time.
                                                                              Something to think about in my opinion and take the time to read different TOS's.
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                                                                              • Angelslinks
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                                • 90

                                                                                #40
                                                                                There is nothing to indicate that this incident had anything to do with DirectNIC
                                                                                Well,
                                                                                Once you rape someone you will always be "guilty" for all rapes in the area for a loooooong time.

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                                                                                • spasmo
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Dec 2005
                                                                                  • 2678

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Angelslinks
                                                                                  Well,
                                                                                  Once you rape someone you will always be "guilty" for all rapes in the area for a loooooong time.
                                                                                  Thanks for quoting me out of context.

                                                                                  Surfers: Go here for hot babes.

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                                                                                  • [Dan]
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                    • 143

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Pornonada, I agree with you on some points. However to be fair I must point out that in the past, Directnic has been cc'ed some complaints for our freehosts (however they were copyright infringments if memory serves me right), and we didn't hear from their legal dept. Their policy might have changed recently however... There is also the risk of changing to another registrar that will be even quicker to shutdown sites, there's a top registrar that has been known to be quick on the trigger. Finally we've been with Directnic since they were reselling for OpenSRS and we never had any problems, it's sometimes not easy to break a 5-6 years, trouble free, business relation.

                                                                                    You're right that if we were down for a week, it would be a disaster for our business. Freehosts are already hanging by a string (honest ones that is); you might think there is a lot of money in it, and it was true at some point in the past (maybe in 2001-2002), but it's very hard to turn a profit these days unless you know exactly what you're doing and you're big enough to buy sizable commits. We were down for a week a while back, it was during the whole hosting.fm/cologroup/pimpshost debacle and you can't imagine how much it hurt.. Needless to say it's not an experience we'd like to reproduce..

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                                                                                    • LadyMischief
                                                                                      Orgasms N Such!
                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                      • 18135

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Spudstr
                                                                                      Well we have no idea exactly how much pressure DN is getting from the FBI to "look into this" because this is DN's responsibility for selling/controlling the domain.

                                                                                      Maybe DN is getting shit and is covering their ass.

                                                                                      Put yourself in DNs shoes....
                                                                                      If that's the case you'd think the feds would follow up with the domain registrants in question, no?

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                                                                                      • RawAlex
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                                        • 9465

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Directnic is also hiding Bin Ladin and has the real recipe for Coke at their office... and they know the Caramilk secret too.

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                                                                                        • Peaches
                                                                                          Old broad
                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                          • 13933

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          What's amazing about this is LadyMischief AFTER reading this thread posted this on another board:

                                                                                          Originally Posted by LadyMischief View Post
                                                                                          Guess it doesn't matter what the legal rights are or what anyone things. Looks like DirectNIC just axed a freehost and all their domains are in registrar-lock as well.

                                                                                          http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=687480

                                                                                          Should be interesting to see who's next.


                                                                                          Yes, AFTER she read this thread AND after she posted after Dan explained that not only wasn't this DirectNic's problem, he trusts DirectNic!

                                                                                          I swear, I wonder about some people motives.

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                                                                                          • LadyMischief
                                                                                            Orgasms N Such!
                                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                                            • 18135

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                                            What's amazing about this is LadyMischief AFTER reading this thread posted this on another board:

                                                                                            Originally Posted by LadyMischief View Post
                                                                                            Guess it doesn't matter what the legal rights are or what anyone things. Looks like DirectNIC just axed a freehost and all their domains are in registrar-lock as well.

                                                                                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=687480

                                                                                            Should be interesting to see who's next.


                                                                                            Yes, AFTER she read this thread AND after she posted after Dan explained that not only wasn't this DirectNic's problem, he trusts DirectNic!

                                                                                            I swear, I wonder about some people motives.


                                                                                            Motives? I could care less. My point was it doesn't matter who was ACTUALLY right or wrong, they are doing what they are doing anyways. :P

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                                                                                            Content Manager - orgasm.com
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                                                                                            • Drake
                                                                                              Hello world!
                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                              • 12508

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Just as an aside, why is it that all registrars are US based? Or are there non-US domain registrars?

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                                                                                              • Dvae
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                                                • 5326

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Spudstr
                                                                                                Well we have no idea exactly how much pressure DN is getting from the FBI to "look into this" because this is DN's responsibility for selling/controlling the domain.

                                                                                                Maybe DN is getting shit and is covering their ass.

                                                                                                Put yourself in DNs shoes....
                                                                                                .
                                                                                                .

                                                                                                Arguing with a troll is a lot like wrestling in the mud with a pig, after a couple of hours you realize the pig likes it.

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                                                                                                • Webby
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                  • 14956

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Mike33
                                                                                                  Just as an aside, why is it that all registrars are US based? Or are there non-US domain registrars?
                                                                                                  They're not Mike - tho plenty spamming of the ICANN registry list in North America generally - ie the same people stuffing up multiple corp fronts and qualifying as another registrar.

                                                                                                  There are registrars all over the place, Korea, Austria, India, Span, Germany, UK, Netherlands, China, France ad nausea....
                                                                                                  XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                                                  • Peaches
                                                                                                    Old broad
                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                    • 13933

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                                                    Motives? I could care less. My point was it doesn't matter who was ACTUALLY right or wrong, they are doing what they are doing anyways. :P
                                                                                                    THEY AREN'T DOING ANYTHING HERE! Geeeze. For the reading impaired:

                                                                                                    Sorry guys, it's not Directnic related.. Cogent had a fiber cut at 8:05am which isolated the Montreal network from the rest of the Net, it lasted ~15 hours!! What's unfortunate is we're in the process of turning up BGP sessions with our providers and a couple of days later this outage wouldn't have affected us.

                                                                                                    However I must point out the recent Directnic drama had us wondering, as you can imagine it happens from time to time in the freehosting business that we receive cp complaints (it's very rare and we review uploads by our members but we can always miss some stuff). I'm not sure how they would react if they were cc'ed one of the complaints.

                                                                                                    BTW thanks for your worries


                                                                                                    Then again:

                                                                                                    Pornonada, I agree with you on some points. However to be fair I must point out that in the past, Directnic has been cc'ed some complaints for our freehosts (however they were copyright infringments if memory serves me right), and we didn't hear from their legal dept. Their policy might have changed recently however... There is also the risk of changing to another registrar that will be even quicker to shutdown sites, there's a top registrar that has been known to be quick on the trigger. Finally we've been with Directnic since they were reselling for OpenSRS and we never had any problems, it's sometimes not easy to break a 5-6 years, trouble free, business relation.

                                                                                                    You're right that if we were down for a week, it would be a disaster for our business. Freehosts are already hanging by a string (honest ones that is); you might think there is a lot of money in it, and it was true at some point in the past (maybe in 2001-2002), but it's very hard to turn a profit these days unless you know exactly what you're doing and you're big enough to buy sizable commits. We were down for a week a while back, it was during the whole hosting.fm/cologroup/pimpshost debacle and you can't imagine how much it hurt.. Needless to say it's not an experience we'd like to reproduce..


                                                                                                    And then you go to another board 12 hours after Dan said it had NOTHING to do with DirectNic and post that DirectNic took them down??!! WTF??!

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