Oh great :( Now the EU changes the VAT as of January 1st 2010 for Internet services

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  • notime
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    • Jun 2003
    • 8027
    #1

    Oh great :( Now the EU changes the VAT as of January 1st 2010 for Internet services

    Got a pile of paperwork today from my accountant about what is to change in the VAT rules in the EU soon.
    For tangiable good it's different then for (digital) services btw.

    http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs...e/index_en.htm

    http://www.accordancevat.com/uncateg...across-europe/

    Cliffnote about the NEW rules:
    If I sell a download or stream to a client in Holland, we incl. 19% VAT as before
    If the client comes from Belgium, we would have to use 21% in VAT
    If the client comes from the UK, we should use 17.5% VAT
    If a client comes from outside the EU, say USA, we would have to use the Dutch VAT 19%
    etc. etc.
    (before 1-1-2010 digital downloads/streams/services outside your own country or EEC were taxfree I believe)

    More rules, more changes, more work, more tax
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    • notime
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      • Jun 2003
      • 8027
      #2
      From 1st January 2015, this Directive also provides that VAT on telecommunications, radio and television broadcasting and electronic services supplied by a supplier established within the Community to non-taxable persons also established within the Community will be charged in the Member State where the customer belongs.

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        • Broda
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          • Feb 2003
          • 1874
          #3
          Doesn't it say "that the rules introduced by the Directive 2002/38/EC will be extended from 1st January 2010 as a permanent measure"?
          That would mean that it's business as usual, no? Until 2015, at least.
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            • notime
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              • Jun 2003
              • 8027
              #4
              Originally posted by Broda
              Doesn't it say "that the rules introduced by the Directive 2002/38/EC will be extended from 1st January 2010 as a permanent measure"?
              That would mean that it's business as usual, no? Until 2015, at least.
              Not sure. The 2015 part is for TV, radio and cellphone services, not the Internet I think.
              I was a stack of paperwork with lot's of legal terms in it where there was a difference per branche, difference between tangiable good (per sector) and (digital) services, per country in the EU and the rest of the world and with lot's of exceptions.
              I am gonna read it again tommorrow more thoroughly, I just went thru it quick today to see the headlines.

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                • Broda
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                  • Feb 2003
                  • 1874
                  #5
                  I tried looking at my local tax/vat office's website and there's nothing to be found about it.
                  However, I do know that there are going to be SOME changes for sure, since we lease our car via Germany and thus only pay the 19% German VAT. Supposedly we'll have to pay the local 25% from January but, I've heard nothing about that from the leasing company so hopefully they'll forget hahaha
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                    • SimonScans
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                      • Jun 2006
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                      #6
                      "...From 1st January 2015, this Directive also provides that VAT on telecommunications, radio and television broadcasting and electronic services supplied by a supplier established within the Community to non-taxable persons also established within the Community will be charged in the Member State where the customer belongs..."
                      I think thats pretty clear it's no change till 2015

                      No doubt at all it's going to be a total PITA.

                      What I hate about VAT is that its a tax on turnover if you make something out of nothing as we do. We have virtually zero input VAT to reclaim. No VAT on flights, no VAT on hosting as it's never in the EU, and no VAT on models. About all I ever get to claim on is dildos and cameras

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