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I can see talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.. Out of all the posts you are posting in.. Why is it you can't reply to my post in this topic?
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That comment is totally uncalled for. You scream and yell at people who wrongfully claim CP, but you are insinuating it yourself. I had thought better of you Peaches, but you are being quite unreasonable. You need to realize that the people who are NOT agreeing with the decisions of DirectNIC and are taking action are doing so because their business is threatened. Are you trying to insinuate that simply because they choose to disagree with the way the DN situation was handled, they are handling CP? Very narrowminded and I'm highly disappointed in this.Comment
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Pardon me, but I do believe a law was JUST passed (and is the foundation for the actions of DirectNIC at this time) that makes it an obligation of the registrar to report "illegal content" to proper authorities? THAT is what the chain of obligation is. That has NOTHING to do with "investigating" it themselves, and gives them absolutely NO right to ask for ID's of a third party (which is illegal in MOST cases anyways unless you are a government official/organization. I figured Mike was into politics but...). Think hard, Peaches about the approach you're taking here, and maybe talk to a lawyer yourself about the actuality of the situation.Comment
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No.. It's none of you business. Don't you understand???
If you want to report criminal offenses - feel free. That is the limit of your authority.
OK Alex - I'll answer this is a little more detail and maybe just give you a clue.
Whether you think so or not, LE are well aware of what you describe as "CP" - the real term is child abuse. It may also have passed your mind that there are other implications to the aura of child abuse, - not just "Oh.. look at him - he's got a CP image on his website! Least I think it is." Big friggin deal.
LE act in their own time schedule for valid reasons. They are not obliged to discuss their operations with you or any adult webmaster - nor DirectNic.
This can involve joint action with several nations and is not limited to imaging, but more concerned with actual physical abuse, child murders, missing children and monitoring known individuals - often for years. LE are well-aware of many 1000's of names, associations and activities of persons (not necessarily "sex offenders"). If you reported an offense, the chances are the name is already known and being worked on. One incident fairly close to home on GFY was an ongoing operation for about four years and involved four nations and the murders of at least two children plus others who have not been found.
I could provide more information, but have no intention of doing so. Could also pass your concern on to LE working in this field, but doubt this would be appreciated - they are too fucking busy to bother with idiots.
Got to say man, if you were around LE, you'd be told to shut the fuck up and mind your own business. If you want to report an offense - do so, then stay out of it.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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As someone who use to consult for the FBI, and whose partner is in LE, let me tell you that you're 100% correct.
Sometimes arbitrarily shutting down a domain can SERIOUSLY hinder active on going investigations.
Report it to the FBI, and let them deal with it how they see fit. They take CP VERY seriously, and aren't just going to "sit on things" for no reason.
As Webby said, one of the primary goals is to find the children that are actually suffering from abuse, and stop that abuse from happening. That can't always be done if the site is shut down before they've had time to start their investigations.Comment
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That has nothing to do with the host account, where all of the log files are actually stored, that would need to be accessed to find out the history of the site, how it was operated, who operated it, so on and so forth.
By putting a registrar lock on the domains, the hat is tipped to the individuals involved, and all of that evidence can quickly vanish, along with the people that run it.
The Feds can install taps to actively watch those administering a site, assuming they're still doing so, and haven't abandoned it because some registrar like DirectNic sent them an e-mail and locked their domains.
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I highly doubt that if it was done in conjunction with some kind of hardcore investigation, they would have given indication of that to their offenders. They would have simply gone in and arrested them, would they not? In MikeAI's statement after this they didn't say that they KNEW there was CP on the site, only that they were investigating it. If it were about some CP ring, this was handled the WORST way possible... and besides, do you REALLY think Slick would have come to GFY looking for some help? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.Comment
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Is english not your first language or something? He said they have no legal liability for what's contained on domains registered with them. That does not mean they will not pass the complaint onto the authorities. I'm not saying they will, because i don't know, but you're making a whole lot of assumptions in this thread and you're doing so without any evidence. Based on what BoyAlley said about Moniker, the only thing you can assume is that they will not conduct any investigations or shut anyone's domains down. That job is for the relevant authorities to perform.
And i have to laugh at how "interesting" spacedog's 95% statistic is. Spacedog. I don't think i need to comment any further about that one.26 + 6 = 1Comment
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Webby, wonderful speech... save it for when the reporters come asking.
Don't play me for a fool. I know that CP comes from child abuse, well, DUH! You think the images were drawn by hand? Children were abused in the makings of CP. No shit sherlock. I am impressed with your overwhelming, huge, mind numbing jump of logic... I had to sit down and catch my breath after that one.
But your logic goes to shit pretty quickly. If the registrar doesn't care, and the host turns a blind eye, and the processor don't care and the the people linking to the shit don't care... well, there will be a whole lot more of it, and more people will be exposed to it and people who thought it wasn't acceptable might think it is and start looking at younger girls and boys as "entertainment" rather than children.
Turning a blind eye, permitting, or tolerating this stuff is just not right. You may think that Directnic has no right in law to do what they do... I tell you, as people, they have a moral obligation to act.
You can dance on the head of a pin and play legal tiddly winks until the cows come home, but at the end of the day, if we tolerate it, then it is likely more children will be abused.
The rest of this discussion is all so fucking pointless compared to that simple issue.Comment
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I would have asked Chris why there is a clear statement in Moniker's TOS speaking to the issue of illegal activity, the ability to free/lock a domain, and the ability to "investigate" illegal activity if what he told you is actually their stance on the matter.
I would also consider that Chris is speaking these things without an FBI agent right next to him telling him to lock the domain so that it cannot be transferred out of the States and US jurisdiction. If that were to happen, he would have nothing to give him 14 days to notify you and let you do what you want, as the contract that you and Moniker agreed to clearly states that they can lock your domain immediately for whatever reason. It says nothing about giving you a 14-day leeway (that I saw, anyway). So I expect his story would change quite drastically if the FBI contacted him and told him to lock it.Comment
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RawAlex, go to the galleries in question. Look at the galleries he is linking to and see for yourself where the content is coming from. It's all from legit sponsors that you yourself probably use. I've seen galleries from NS Cash, Lightspeed, Bang Bros, Jason & Alex just to name a few. I haven't come across a single questionable gallery yet.
DirectNic's only job in this situation should be to pass the complaint onto the authorities. This guy's business is being fucked with and he's not doing anything wrong. Anybody with teen content on their website could get fucked over with spurious claim. Great way to deal with competitors.26 + 6 = 1Comment
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can we have one thread without the fucking Directnic bots in here?!????Comment
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Damn straight. Hi Alex!
The funny thing is, if DN had contacted Slick and said "we find your domains to be conducting in activities which we do not want associated with our business, and ask that you transfer your domains elsewhere within 10 days of receipt of this letter", people would *still* be all pissed off and acting like the sky was falling and saying that DN had no legal right to... DN should be sued for... blah blah blah.Comment
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funny how the Directnic bots haven't communicated with Directnic "for years" but all have intimate knowledge of every move Directnic makes ...
doesn't matter - cuz every adult webmaster worth their salt will be moving their domains and will never register one with them in the future - why would they?
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Bud, all I can say is this: I have known Mike and Sig and many of the people over at Intercosmos since pretty much when I started in this business. I don't always agree with them, but they don't do illogical things very often.funny how the Directnic bots haven't communicated with Directnic "for years" but all have intimate knowledge of every move Directnic makes ...
doesn't matter - cuz every adult webmaster worth their salt will be moving their domains and will never register one with them in the future - why would they?
Knowing only what has been put on the boards, I can pretty much guess at the process, and because of their background in law and business, I can take a pretty solid guess at where they are sitting.
Nothing more than that. That any number of people come in here and tell you the same thing is not because of some great conpiracy or network of talking points, but because people who have been around a long, long time, understand how people will react.
Do you know what the AI is in MikeAI? if you don't, you should brush up on history.Comment
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Chowdadog, I looked at the galleries. Me as a porn guy I can identify many of the models. But the problem comes that some of them I can't, and I can't get past the 99% skim to see them.
99% of the time, I ended up much, much closer to CP, and where I didn't find CP, I found toolbars, codec installers, and 101 other pieces of bullshit.
The general public looking at that site will scream "CP!", and that is what is truly not good about those sites.Comment
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Ahh, so if they want to trade links with you, no problem... it's not your job to police the internet, right?
I have a zango install page I would love to trade traffic with you on... Geez!Comment
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at this point - who gives a shit - what's going to happen is going to happen -
but no one in their right mind in adult will keep or register domains with direct inc ever again - end of story.Comment
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Kinda don't wander into your fantasy world of assumptions - they would be incorrect.
You are constantly trolling these threads advocating shit about DirectNIC and whining about "CP". If you have found "CP" on the galleries - what exactly do you intend to do about it - other than whining on GFY? Report it to DirectNic?99% of the time, I ended up much, much closer to CP, and where I didn't find CP, I found toolbars, codec installers, and 101 other pieces of bullshit.
The general public looking at that site will scream "CP!", and that is what is truly not good about those sites.Last edited by Webby; 12-14-2006, 04:48 PM.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Webby, I have been reporting CP since before you could find the internet. Don't lecture when you don't know.Comment
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Webby, what I personally have done is none of your business. Why don't you join me in reporting them, rather than playing legal tiddlywinks?Comment
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bud, surprisingly, I have a very completely list of all 2257 here. Thanks for asking.Comment
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Oh yeah, Bud, btw, for what it is worth, you don't need 2257 documents for pages you link to... Geez.Comment
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Webby, stop bashing, and people stop bashing back. It's late over there, isn't it? You should take a break.Comment
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another inane statement.
youve got to be one of the most mentally challenged people ive seen post at this board
did you even think before you posted this?
next time you have a thought - do humanity a favor - let it go.Last edited by jonesy; 12-14-2006, 05:15 PM..
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