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  • Nookster
    Confirmed IT Professional
    • Nov 2005
    • 3744

    #151
    Originally posted by jact
    I fail to see how a bank asking YOU for YOUR id compares to DN asking Slick for the model's id. Third party identification is not first party identification and this argument doesn't stand up.
    Very well said. If only everyone would be smart enough to know that difference.
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    • HostGladiator
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      • May 2005
      • 816

      #152
      Originally posted by RawAlex
      it's called a sharpie marker. Get one.
      I have plenty, thanks.. Sharpie it out and you run the risk of them saying you altered the ID.
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      • jact
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        • Sep 2002
        • 9134

        #153
        Originally posted by RawAlex
        Same arguments as before. Trust me, anyone shooting CP ain't getting model IDs, and ain't staying in contact with the models after to get a current ID.

        CP people don't keep 2257 records... and that is the point.
        You seem to need a refresher on why we have 2257 then.
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        • Pleasurepays
          BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
          • Aug 2002
          • 11913

          #154
          Originally posted by TeenGodFather
          What if the content(ID) was shot in 1997 and the girl was born in 1984?
          What does the ID prove in that case? You sort of need full docs to make any use of the ID's..
          i'm not saying anything one way or the other. but to answer your question... they didn't ask to see everything. they wanted a pic/date of birth... they could have clarified that. however, i am fairly certain that they put some thought into the request before they made it being that they have in house legal staff and were threatening to interrupt someones business.

          also... i would speculate that asking for information doesn't violate any privacy laws. providing information in a way that violates privacy laws would. holding someone hostage while requiring them to provide information that is not lawful for them to provide, i doubt means that DirectNIC is violating any federal or state privacy laws. privacy laws are centered around information and how it must be stored and when and how it can be shared in various circumstances and in various situations (medical records, financial records etc etc)

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          • JFK
            FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
            • Jan 2002
            • 67369

            #155
            Originally posted by jact
            Sued or not, you can't take allegations back, you can't take what people think of you back, you can't reverse the damage that this will do to slick for the rest of his life.
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            • scardog
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2004
              • 886

              #156
              How would he provide the IDs, if he was using FHGs? Will programs provide those to affiliates?

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              • crockett
                in a van by the river
                • May 2003
                • 76818

                #157
                Originally posted by Slick
                I haven't heard anything from them since yesterday, so I'm not sure why they just pulled the plug without warning.

                If you see the sponsors listed on my page, you'd see that they are ALL legit sponsors. IF the girls are all 18, it's legal, case closed. It shouldn't be "well, they LOOK younger than 18, it's illegal, shut it down".
                Damn man I feel for you. I had already made up my mind to move my domains away from them because of the way they are handling this. This just confirms it.. What a bunch of ass hats.

                On a side note, I know all your thumbs are sponsor hosted FHG's however even myself being in the teen niche I kinda thought some of your thumbs were a bit pushing it. Not just the teen stuff but even some of the others.

                However that's just my personal opinion and I do think DirectNic is way out of line here. I hope you sue the shit out of them because I know your network brings in some good money. They are causing a lot of lost income with this stunt which will be hard as hell to recover.
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                • baddog
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 107089

                  #158
                  Originally posted by SpeakEasy
                  That is 100% true. DN didn't just decide to hassle you one day, they have orders to do so. Get your Lawyed NOW and prepare for the feds. This isnt a matter of DN thinking somethings wrong with your sites, it's much higher than that.
                  this is pretty accurate I would guess

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                  • RawAlex
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 9465

                    #159
                    Originally posted by insomniac768
                    I have plenty, thanks.. Sharpie it out and you run the risk of them saying you altered the ID.
                    wow... this isn't a 2257 inspection dude! Nobody is going to bitch for black lines of un-required info!

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                    • SiMpLe
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                      • Feb 2002
                      • 3221

                      #160
                      Holy shit!
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                      • Pleasurepays
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                        • Aug 2002
                        • 11913

                        #161
                        Originally posted by insomniac768
                        Yes, that pic/DOB can also contain (depending on the state) social security number, blood type and of course a home address.
                        a "pic" and "date of birth" is not the same as all other data. my question was simply about the law and what the law defines as personally ideantifying information. not whether or not you intelligent enough to understand that the ID can have all other data blacked out before its shown to someone.

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                        • aico
                          Moo Moo Cow
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 14748

                          #162
                          Originally posted by Peaches
                          My bank asked me for a picture ID when I wrote a check for cash yesterday. The stores ask for one when I use my credit card or write a check. They aren't representatives of the DOJ either

                          DN is loaded with lawyers. I can't imagine they turned Slick off without a reason, but if they did, he has EVERY right to sue them. He already has an attorney. I suspect, like when he first approached this situation by making a post here instead of contacting DirectNic or his attorney, that he again posted here before knowing the story of what's going on.

                          But AGAIN, for those of you who feel someone's "seeding" me, lol, if DN screwed up, they deserve to be sued.

                          Not that it matters, but, there's a large difference between voluntarily showing someone your own ID, and showing someone some else's ID without their permission or knowledge.

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                          • nation-x
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 5370

                            #163
                            it loads fine for me...

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                            • Slick
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2001
                              • 7338

                              #164
                              I just called up DirectNic support and they said I was shut down due to illegal content. I asked for a phone number for the legal department, but they said they didn't have one.

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                              • HometownHardcore
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                                • Jul 2006
                                • 129

                                #165
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                                • jact
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                                  • Sep 2002
                                  • 9134

                                  #166
                                  Originally posted by Slick
                                  I just called up DirectNic support and they said I was shut down due to illegal content. I asked for a phone number for the legal department, but they said they didn't have one.
                                  Did they say suspected or alleged illegal content, or simply "illegal content"?
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                                  • Jace
                                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 35562

                                    #167
                                    Originally posted by Slick
                                    I just called up DirectNic support and they said I was shut down due to illegal content. I asked for a phone number for the legal department, but they said they didn't have one.
                                    holy shit

                                    that is pretty crazy

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                                    • Slick
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2001
                                      • 7338

                                      #168
                                      Originally posted by jact
                                      Did they say suspected or alleged illegal content, or simply "illegal content"?
                                      They said Illegal Content.

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                                      • jact
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Sep 2002
                                        • 9134

                                        #169
                                        Originally posted by Slick
                                        They said Illegal Content.
                                        Be sure to mention that to your council the next conversation you have.
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                                        • Slick
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2001
                                          • 7338

                                          #170
                                          The thing is that a few of the sponsors stepped up and offered me the documents of the model's IDs, as long as I kept them confidential. That's really great of them, but I guess it won't help me now.

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                                          • xclusive
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Apr 2004
                                            • 35218

                                            #171
                                            They better have proof if they are straight out saying it's illegal and not just think it is. I can't wait to see how this all plays out as it's very important for all of us.

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                                            • directfiesta
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 30176

                                              #172
                                              Originally posted by jact
                                              I fail to see how a bank asking YOU for YOUR id compares to DN asking Slick for the model's id. Third party identification is not first party identification and this argument doesn't stand up.
                                              went thru that yesterday with all of them, but to no avail.
                                              Don't forget, this is GFY, and most here are uneducated and cannot form a logical reasonning.
                                              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                              • Nookster
                                                Confirmed IT Professional
                                                • Nov 2005
                                                • 3744

                                                #173
                                                Originally posted by Slick
                                                They said Illegal Content.
                                                Make sure you can get proof that you have no illegal content and sue the fuck out of them.
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                                                • woj
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                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                  • 47880

                                                  #174
                                                  Originally posted by insomniac768
                                                  Yes, that pic/DOB can also contain (depending on the state) social security number, blood type and of course a home address.
                                                  Directnic (I think) said that those pieces of information can be covered up, that they only needed dob and picture...
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                                                  • HostGladiator
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                                                    #175
                                                    Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                    wow... this isn't a 2257 inspection dude! Nobody is going to bitch for black lines of un-required info!
                                                    That maybe true but DN has no authority or right to ask to see any models ID. They aren't the FBI or the DOJ.
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                                                    • Peaches
                                                      Old broad
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 13933

                                                      #176
                                                      OK, OK, I was wrong about the ID thing - sorry ;)

                                                      Slick, YOU HAVE AN ATTORNEY! Damn, dude - use him.

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                                                      • aico
                                                        Moo Moo Cow
                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                        • 14748

                                                        #177
                                                        Originally posted by woj
                                                        Directnic (I think) said that those pieces of information can be covered up, that they only needed dob and picture...
                                                        They also said he had until the 18th to provide them. I double checked my calendar, and it's still the 14th here.

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                                                        • sextoyking
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                          • 6034

                                                          #178
                                                          Originally posted by Slick
                                                          They said Illegal Content.
                                                          Slick,

                                                          With as many lawyers as directnic has - they wouldn't of done this for no reason at all, trust me. They have been serving the adult industry for many many years.

                                                          I know you feel picked on, hurt, etc, etc but no one knows who talked to directnic or who they talked to, i.e. feds, etc.

                                                          I would seek counsel ASAP and shut up asap....

                                                          loosing some domains / profits is bad enough but if there was bs images or whatever - loosing liberty is something to ponder.

                                                          no drama, just listen to counsel.
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                                                          • Pete-KT
                                                            Workin With The Devil
                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                            • 51532

                                                            #179
                                                            Originally posted by Slick
                                                            I just called up DirectNic support and they said I was shut down due to illegal content. I asked for a phone number for the legal department, but they said they didn't have one.
                                                            No legal department? wow now thats fucked up, Slick im a couple hours away from you hit me up if you need anything bro

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                                                            • Manowar
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                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                              • 71528

                                                              #180
                                                              Bump once more

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                                                              • Jace
                                                                FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                • 35562

                                                                #181
                                                                Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                OK, OK, I was wrong about the ID thing - sorry ;)

                                                                Slick, YOU HAVE AN ATTORNEY! Damn, dude - use him.
                                                                just because he is posting on here and updating us doesn't mean he isn't also talking to his attorney

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                                                                • NoComments
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2005
                                                                  • 4957

                                                                  #182
                                                                  Originally posted by Slick
                                                                  Ya know, I'll have to say it again, I HAVE NO CHILD PORN ON MY FUCKING PAGES !!!!! There are sites out there that are CLEARLY showing child porn, why not go after them.

                                                                  What the fuck is this, the fucking Pat Robertson Messageboard ???
                                                                  don't worry, son, you are not the first and not the last stupid mothefuck who was fucked by the system. In porn business, being extreamely stupid is a punishable offense.

                                                                  Never mind me, I'll enjoy your crying on GFY very soon,
                                                                  you've seen nothing yet. You can thank your stipidity for ALL of it.

                                                                  carry on.
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                                                                  • Slick
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                    • 7338

                                                                    #183
                                                                    Originally posted by Pete-KT
                                                                    No legal department? wow now thats fucked up, Slick im a couple hours away from you hit me up if you need anything bro
                                                                    Thanks man, I appreciate it.

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                                                                    • RawAlex
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                      • 9465

                                                                      #184
                                                                      Slick, a little advice... I would take a moment to make sure your PC at home is VERY clean, okay? Nothing to get alarmed about, but if this got reported to the authorities, you might get a nice knock knock one of these days... so make sure that your cache is clean, know what I mean?

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                                                                      • Slick
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                        • 7338

                                                                        #185
                                                                        Originally posted by Winetalk
                                                                        don't worry, son, you are not the first and not the last stupid mothefuck who was fucked by the system. In porn business, being extreamely stupid is a punishable offense.

                                                                        Never mind me, I'll enjoy your crying on GFY very soon,
                                                                        you've seen nothing yet. You can thank your stipidity for ALL of it.

                                                                        carry on.
                                                                        Thanks for cheering me up, your posts really make me feel much better

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                                                                        • Pete-KT
                                                                          Workin With The Devil
                                                                          • Oct 2004
                                                                          • 51532

                                                                          #186
                                                                          Originally posted by Slick
                                                                          Thanks man, I appreciate it.
                                                                          anytime bro

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                                                                          • Peaches
                                                                            Old broad
                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 13933

                                                                            #187
                                                                            Originally posted by Jace
                                                                            just because he is posting on here and updating us doesn't mean he isn't also talking to his attorney
                                                                            His attorney (if he's a decent one) would have told him to STFU on a public message board, IMO.

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                                                                            • Anthony
                                                                              Keyboard Warrior
                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                              • 9653

                                                                              #188
                                                                              Originally posted by Slick
                                                                              Thanks for cheering me up, your posts really make me feel much better
                                                                              This shitstorm is just beginning, Serge was warning you up front.

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                                                                              • Jace
                                                                                FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                                • 35562

                                                                                #189
                                                                                Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                                His attorney (if he's a decent one) would have told him to STFU on a public message board, IMO.
                                                                                i agree with that, but what can ya do, ya know?

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                                                                                • Pleasurepays
                                                                                  BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                  • 11913

                                                                                  #190
                                                                                  Originally posted by Winetalk
                                                                                  don't worry, son, you are not the first and not the last stupid mothefuck who was fucked by the system. In porn business, being extreamely stupid is a punishable offense.

                                                                                  Never mind me, I'll enjoy your crying on GFY very soon,
                                                                                  you've seen nothing yet. You can thank your stipidity for ALL of it.

                                                                                  carry on.
                                                                                  on a funny and someone fortuitous note.. on The History Channel right now is a documentary about Joliette prison... level 1, maximum security. Doesn't seem that bad really... unless you are a cop or involved in cp/pedophilia.

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                                                                                  • RawAlex
                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                                    • 9465

                                                                                    #191
                                                                                    yeah, Serge is pretty good at predicting shitstorms for some reason...

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                                                                                    • scottybuzz
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                                                                                      • May 2006
                                                                                      • 14799

                                                                                      #192
                                                                                      I have read this whole thread through and the ONLY opinion that counts or matters is Webby's

                                                                                      GET THE FUCK OFF GFY AND SOLVE THIS WITH A LAWYER. you are wasting crucial time here.
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                                                                                      • jact
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                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                        • 9134

                                                                                        #193
                                                                                        Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                        This shitstorm is just beginning, Serge was warning you up front.
                                                                                        I think that's the understatement of the century at this point. It's going to be interesting to watch how this pans out not only for Slick, but anyone dealing in "legal" teen content.
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                                                                                        • aico
                                                                                          Moo Moo Cow
                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                          • 14748

                                                                                          #194
                                                                                          Originally posted by Peaches
                                                                                          His attorney (if he's a decent one) would have told him to STFU on a public message board, IMO.
                                                                                          They'd also have a # for the legal dept... which makes me think he doesn't have an attorney as of yet.

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                                                                                          • Pleasurepays
                                                                                            BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                            • 11913

                                                                                            #195
                                                                                            Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                                                            I have read this whole thread through and the ONLY opinion that counts or matters is Webby's

                                                                                            GET THE FUCK OFF GFY AND SOLVE THIS WITH A LAWYER. you are wasting crucial time here.
                                                                                            he's been told that many times... his refusal to do so might offer some insight into why he is in the position he is in.

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                                                                                            • WiredGuy
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                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 34515

                                                                                              #196
                                                                                              Which sponsors were the FHG's from?
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                                                                                              • Anthony
                                                                                                Keyboard Warrior
                                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                                • 9653

                                                                                                #197
                                                                                                Originally posted by jact
                                                                                                I think that's the understatement of the century at this point. It's going to be interesting to watch how this pans out not only for Slick, but anyone dealing in "legal" teen content.
                                                                                                Bro,

                                                                                                I'm glad I'm out of the teen market myself.

                                                                                                I know how it feels to be in this position.

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                                                                                                • jact
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                  • 9134

                                                                                                  #198
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                                  Bro,

                                                                                                  I'm glad I'm out of the teen market myself.

                                                                                                  I know how it feels to be in this position.
                                                                                                  The last company I worked for focused entirely on the teen market, the younger looking the better (While legal). It made me very uneasy dealing with that content. I'm very, very glad to be out of it.

                                                                                                  Sure, it makes money, of course it does, it appeals to that huge market that fantasize about being with just barely post-pubescent teens, but that doesn't make it morally right.

                                                                                                  I'm sure I'll get slammed for this post, but everyone's entitled to their opinions and their comfort levels, "legal" teen content where the girls look uber young, wear braces, pigtails, teddybears, etc, isn't within my comforts.
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                                                                                                  • NoComments
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                                                    • 4957

                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                                    on a funny and someone fortuitous note.. on The History Channel right now is a documentary about Joliette prison... level 1, maximum security. Doesn't seem that bad really... unless you are a cop or involved in cp/pedophilia.
                                                                                                    I was always wondering....
                                                                                                    where the faces on posters come from? Does anybody look for them specifically,
                                                                                                    or poster boys look for publishers.

                                                                                                    This idiot is surely looking for publisher...and I can see somebody granting him the wish and all benefits associated with martyrdom
                                                                                                    ;)
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                                                                                                    • NoComments
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                                                                                                      • Jan 2005
                                                                                                      • 4957

                                                                                                      #200
                                                                                                      holy fuck, how do I do it! I love top spot on the page
                                                                                                      ;)
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