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Which you have to admit is better than just shutting the sites down and contacting the government, no?
It isn't "you do what we say"... it's "fulfill the contract that you signed and provide us the information to prove you are not in violation of the registration agreement".
They didn't shut the domains down, they didn't stop Slick from getting traffic, they didn't do harm to his business.
Directnic didn't shirk from responsiblity, and didn't pass the buck. A few more companies in the adult world could learn a bunch from them about facing reality rather than hiding under a rock. Slick should count himself lucky he wasn't with a registrar that just turned things off.Comment
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I think you need to look back again. It looks pretty 50/50 to me. And what's even more interesting is that the "cheerleaders" seem to be those of us who have been in this biz for 10+ years. It's almost like we've seen this same situation with hosting and billing companies over the years........
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Uh, even those going against DN have stated that several pictures, if not CP, certainly were borderline. DN is giving Slick a chance to prove they aren't CP. If he was a CP provider, not locking the domains would just allow him to move them over to another company - probably outside the US - and then government would be unable to check them out and prosecute as necessary - which leaves more CP on the internet.
Slick's domains are still up and working, right? It also seems this has alerted him to companies he was doing business with that weren't completely legit. I believe he mentioned either on this thread or elsewhere that he's stopped trades with at least one site. But under your logic, you'd rather him be in jail because DN reported it directly to the authorities.Last edited by Peaches; 12-14-2006, 07:47 AM.Comment
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lol @ registering domain names with DirectNic...264 349 400Comment
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Who gives a shit if the gov is contacted about some fhg tgp, they would look at it and probably not take any action. They have the power to make the choice to prove something is agaist the law.
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Which does seem odd for a domain registrar to do. I've never heard of a domain registrar doing that before. This probably means they have now changed their role as a registrar to include being responsible for the content on all the domain names they sell and must police them now that they've chosen to police at least some. No?- Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com
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Another of the Mighty Moniker Execs... ICQ:210870714 ...[email protected] ...Give me a yell if you have questions on domain names!!Comment
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darksoul, let's say that the complaint that directnic got shows some images, and they were printed in, say, June.
Asking for model birth dates would show that the models were legal at the time the complaints were made.
If the models are not 18 today, the images would obviously be illegal.
If the models were underage when the images were shot, it would be very unlikely that Slick would be able to produce ID for those models, as they would not have been part of any legal content sold (can you figure any producer dumb enough to sell content with a model ID and release that clearly shows the mode was underage when the pics were shot?).
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yes, and apparently you would like Directnic to continue to offer domain services to CP traders, while the government takes it's sweet time getting around to checking (which can take years). I suppose you would also oblige hosts and billing companies to do business with CP sellers because nobody has been arrested yet either, right?
Your logic is so warped. Do you run cj sites as well?Comment
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Well, per Slick's admission that at least one site was questionable at best, you just suggested Slick be sitting in a cell right now. Plus, your friend at Moniker said he would have contacted the webmaster first too. Ya gotta pick a side of the fence, Pete
Darksoul, I answered your question. If you can't figure it out, there's really not a lot I can do to help you
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Did DirectNIC follow any of the links and report the sponsors FHG's that were being linked to? I'm curious if they ended their reporting to the domain name they sold, or if Lightspeed, FuckYouCash, NSCash, Nubiles, etc.. were reported to the authorities since it was their content.- Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com
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Ya moniker would check it out and then talk to the webmaster, not LOCK your account and tell your your fuckedWell, per Slick's admission that at least one site was questionable at best, you just suggested Slick be sitting in a cell right now. Plus, your friend at Moniker said he would have contacted the webmaster first too. Ya gotta pick a side of the fence, Pete
Darksoul, I answered your question. If you can't figure it out, there's really not a lot I can do to help youComment
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Well, per Slick's admission that at least one site was questionable at best, you just suggested Slick be sitting in a cell right now. Plus, your friend at Moniker said he would have contacted the webmaster first too. Ya gotta pick a side of the fence, Pete
Darksoul, I answered your question. If you can't figure it out, there's really not a lot I can do to help you
I don't know what the content precisely was, and I think that with regard to CP there should be no quarter given in the prosecution of it, I think everyone in this thread feels similar disgust with regard to it. THAT BEING SAID, it is not the job of the registrar to verify the ages of the models being used in response to a complaint.
I would contact the client, let them know about the complaint, find out thier thoughts on how they wanted me to handle it, and then politely tell the person making the complaint that the matter has been discussed.
There isn't a lot more that the registrar can legally do... If I remember the procedure correctly, the BUSINESSOWNER is responsible to keep the model consent forms and age verification, so that if a law enforcement organization was to ask for it, it could be presented... a registrar (even with a loose definition of that word) is NOT a law enforcement organization...
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Good post since DN stuck it's nose into a place where it doesn't belong... if you leave your domains with them after all this then you are looking trouble square in the face!HaHaHaComment
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the asskissing in tthis buisness astounds meSig heil
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Neither is a host or a billing company, but they do the same thing.
Since Slick's admitted that at least one of the sites was questionable, would have let it go at that or reported him for having CP on his sites?Comment
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hey Pete, do me a favor, keep your insults to yourself. If you have a problem with my comments, address the comments. Name calling and insults just point out how much you have really lost your grip on the whole deal.
You don't like Directnic, fine, don't do business with them. I am just disgusted to see you and Chris here trying to drum up buisness against them. Sharks in the water, smelling blood, perhaps?
I don't have a horse in this race. I don't do business with either. If you hadn't come out touting moniker, your comments regarding Directnic might have a little more weight.
Too bad.
Now if you want to play name calling and insult games, I suggest you go to the sandbox in the park near your house. The kids over there might enjoy it.Comment
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