Will the adjut industry ever revert back? - GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

X

hawkadu

Confirmed User

Join Date: Oct 2006

Posts: 276
Share

Post
#1

Will the adjut industry ever revert back?

11-12-2009, 10:26 PM

Do you hope sales will be like they were before this recession? Once the jobs starts kicking it, everything will be fine?

Recently I'm seeing many program owners selling their websites and low sales thread is almost on every board.

What do you think about 2010? Will it be better than 2009?
Tags: None
WWC

#1 Adult Content Provider

Join Date: Jul 2003

Posts: 11577
Share

Post
#2

11-12-2009, 10:29 PM

Yes, 2010 will be better for those companies who make changes accordingly...everyone must tweak their business to adapt in todays market....

[email protected]
ICQ : 494-353-230
Follow WWC on Twitter CLICK HERE!

" CONTENT PROVIDER OF THE YEAR! " ~ 2007 , 2008 & 2009 XBIZ AWARDS WINNER!

.......www.WorldWideContent.com / www.WorldWideFeeds.com......

WWC Nominated " Content Licensor of The Year " 2010 XBiz Awards !!!
Comment
PXN

Confirmed User

Join Date: Jun 2008

Posts: 1548
Share

Post
#3

11-12-2009, 10:36 PM

I know this sound like spamming because I'm selling mobile domain, but I think mobile will be the next big thing in porn as some adult executive have mention. I got some nice articles in this thread ... >> Click here

Reports from Reuters, Bloomberg and CNBC indicate there is an increase trend in mobile porn.
Comment
SleazyDream

I'm here for SPORT

Join Date: Jul 2001

Posts: 41470
Share

Post
#4

11-12-2009, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by WWC

Yes, 2010 will be better for those companies who make changes accordingly...everyone must tweak their business to adapt in todays market....

i agree

This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

Now read without the word dog.
Comment
Iron Fist

Too lazy to set a custom title

Join Date: Dec 2006

Posts: 23400
Share

Post
#5

11-12-2009, 10:49 PM

Is this the adapt or die thread?

i like waffles
Comment
Loch

Confirmed User

Join Date: Feb 2002

Posts: 7674
Share

Post
#6

11-12-2009, 10:56 PM

Business is not worse then it was 1-2-3-4 years ago, just VERY different.

Contact us for Beta store access (4000 HD/SD productions) - Editing - Encoding/Post production
ICQ - 277 862 930 E-mail casper /@/ cool-content.com
Comment
okny

Confirmed User

Join Date: Aug 2002

Posts: 5761
Share

Post
#7

11-12-2009, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by sharphead

Is this the adapt or die thread?

Well basically if you don't based on what is going these days there will be no other options.

Aim: okny
Icq: 306232
Skype: OlegKrasBT
Comment
Mock NyaMout

Confirmed User

Join Date: Sep 2009

Posts: 514
Share

Post
#8

11-12-2009, 11:22 PM

Things will be great over here
Comment
Agent 488

Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2006

Posts: 22511
Share

Post
#9

11-12-2009, 11:28 PM

look into selling products that can't be downloaded for free. adult is moving into a period of consolidation.
Comment
After Shock Media

It's coming look busy

Join Date: Mar 2001

Posts: 35299
Share

Post
#10

11-12-2009, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by sharphead

Is this the adapt or die thread?

Can I adapt by dieing?
Perhaps change my business choice of micro niche and start some DRM based zombie porn

[email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]
Comment
bjlover

Confirmed User

Join Date: Nov 2006

Posts: 514
Share

Post
#11

11-12-2009, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by hawkadu

Do you hope sales will be like they were before this recession? Once the jobs starts kicking it, everything will be fine?

Recently I'm seeing many program owners selling their websites and low sales thread is almost on every board.

What do you think about 2010? Will it be better than 2009?

I wonder if there is a transport forum somewhere and some dumb ass is asking if people are going to revert back to the horse and cart?

Anyone with even 1/2 a brain cell can see why sales have fallen. In case you have missed the 1000,000 threads on here about tubes I'll give you a clue.

Tubes are better than most pay sites and they offer videos in a format surfers want, they have more updates and often better quality.

Oh and they are free

Arsewithclass has models who claim he wont pay them. Read his pathetic excuse here http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=102
Comment
onwebcam

Fake Nick 1.0

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posts: 27689
Share

Post
#12

11-12-2009, 11:48 PM

The future is in exchange. You get what you pay for. You pay for what you get. People will take more into consideration what they buy. Learn to adapt or die. Without something real. You have no real return. A picture is worth a thousands words. A person is worth a million.

Last edited by onwebcam; 11-12-2009, 11:51 PM.

PLEASE WAIT WHILE BIDEN ADMIN UNINSTALLS ITSELF.....
██████████████████▒ 99.5% complete.
Comment
Libertine

sex dwarf

Join Date: May 2002

Posts: 17860
Share

Post
#13

11-12-2009, 11:57 PM

Even though small periods of increased revenue are possible, the overall line for adult points downward. Anyone who pretends otherwise refuses to deal with reality.

Porn is now an essentially free product. There are so many tubes with different content that for most parts of adult even the most demanding addict can get his fix for free. Only a few small and specific niches are an exception to that.

Moreover, each year a larger percentage of adult men will have grown up with the internet, and will thus be more knowledgeable of ways to get porn for free. We now have people in their twenties who can't even remember not having an internet connection. Ten years from now, the same will go for men in their thirties. And make no mistake: a better knowledge of the internet translates directly into a better knowledge of ways to get free porn.

Take a look at this:
http://www.ovguide.com/adult-visits-alltime.html

Now ask yourself: how many men need more porn than they can get there for free? And how many men discover those sites every day?

The idea that things will get better is a fantasy. Ratios will keep dropping.

Of course, consolidation will still benefit some in this industry, and others will continue to dominate specific niches and be less affected than the mainstream. Aside from that, making a decent living as a small-scale entrepreneur in adult might be harder than it used to be, but it's still quite possible. So the industry does have a future - albeit one that isn't too bright for many.

/(bb|[^b]{2})/
Comment
JFK

FUBAR the ORIGINATOR

Join Date: Jan 2002

Posts: 67369
Share

Post
#14

11-13-2009, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by sharphead

Is this the adapt or die thread?

appears to be so

FUBAR Webmasters - The FUBAR Times - FUBAR Webmasters Mobile - FUBARTV.XXX
For promo opps contact jfk at fubarwebmasters dot com
Comment
hawkadu

Confirmed User

Join Date: Oct 2006

Posts: 276
Share

Post
#15

11-13-2009, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by bjlover

I wonder if there is a transport forum somewhere and some dumb ass is asking if people are going to revert back to the horse and cart?

Anyone with even 1/2 a brain cell can see why sales have fallen. In case you have missed the 1000,000 threads on here about tubes I'll give you a clue.

Tubes are better than most pay sites and they offer videos in a format surfers want, they have more updates and often better quality.

Oh and they are free

I didn't ask what you are replying. I asked about the industry state, not horse and carts. Tubes are not the sole reason for the fall and please don't act like you are the one who run the whole industry.

I've seen numerous threads about the tubes and in your opinion All the pay sites will die because of the tubes because tubes are better. Now can you please tell me from where the Tubes are getting the content? Lots are them are getting the content from pay sites. If tubes will not make sales, how the fuck they will cover bandwidth and other expenses? No one is going to run Tubes for few cents.

Every business has a model and the revenue is a must. if revenue fall to shit, business will close. It is possible that the model of business has shifted to tubes but selling something has to be involved If you want to run any business in the world. You are thinking it the wrong way. Tubes are killing the industry, that's right but don't you think that on-line buyers are increasing day by day ?

There are lots of dudes who are still pushing galleries and making a fortune. Even dudes are still making money off AVS

If I am all wrong and If this industry dies and solely gets dependent on tubes, I'll leave it. That's all I can say.
Comment
kane

Too lazy to set a custom title

Join Date: Aug 2001

Posts: 20684
Share

Post
#16

11-13-2009, 01:16 AM

I have said before and still believe that at some point we will over-saturate and it will force us to change. when you give away a ton of free porn it leaves you with very limited sales opportunities. It is only a matter of time before those dry up or stagnate. When that happens the revenue from tube sites will start to get lower and lower and they will be forced to either radically change how they do business or we will start to see them going out of business.

I think you can look at a site like YouTube as a great examples If YouTube didn't have Google's fat pockets behind it, chances are it would either be radically different or gone today. From what I have read it costs Google millions just to keep that site alive, but they do it for the exposure and the user information. You can also see other sites that are now going to start charging for some content. Many online newspapers will soon be charging a fee to read them. They found out giving away everything is not all that profitable after all. Will it work? Not at first. Some people will pay, but most will just go other places to get that news, but that shift in freeloaders could cause these other sources to have higher costs, but reduced income and they quickly may make the change.

Change is coming. Free is not a plan that can last forever.
Comment
onwebcam

Fake Nick 1.0

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posts: 27689
Share

Post
#17

11-13-2009, 01:21 AM

I miss my caddy

Last edited by onwebcam; 11-13-2009, 01:24 AM.

PLEASE WAIT WHILE BIDEN ADMIN UNINSTALLS ITSELF.....
██████████████████▒ 99.5% complete.
Comment
halfpint

GFY's Halfpint

Join Date: Jun 2007

Posts: 15223
Share

Post
#18

11-13-2009, 01:24 AM

Im seeing more and more tubes where the user pays for a premium account so the tubes are already changing into something smiliar to a paysite

Get FREE website listings on Cryptocoinshops.net
Comment
ruff

I have a plan B

Join Date: Aug 2004

Posts: 5499
Share

Post
#19

11-13-2009, 04:32 AM

No question the tubes hurt business, but the last few months when sales dramatically declined, I would put off to the credit card companies raising their rates, capping peoples credit lines and, generally fucking over anyone who has a card before the government regulations go into effect this February. Not many outfits can continue to run tube sites without content and certainly not without generating income. The sources of their free content have to survive to feed the machine! It's another shakeout, you just have to hunker down.

CryptoFeeds
Comment
Libertine

sex dwarf

Join Date: May 2002

Posts: 17860
Share

Post
#20

11-13-2009, 04:43 AM

Originally posted by hawkadu

I didn't ask what you are replying. I asked about the industry state, not horse and carts. Tubes are not the sole reason for the fall and please don't act like you are the one who run the whole industry.

I've seen numerous threads about the tubes and in your opinion All the pay sites will die because of the tubes because tubes are better. Now can you please tell me from where the Tubes are getting the content? Lots are them are getting the content from pay sites. If tubes will not make sales, how the fuck they will cover bandwidth and other expenses? No one is going to run Tubes for few cents.

Every business has a model and the revenue is a must. if revenue fall to shit, business will close. It is possible that the model of business has shifted to tubes but selling something has to be involved If you want to run any business in the world. You are thinking it the wrong way. Tubes are killing the industry, that's right but don't you think that on-line buyers are increasing day by day ?

There are lots of dudes who are still pushing galleries and making a fortune. Even dudes are still making money off AVS

If I am all wrong and If this industry dies and solely gets dependent on tubes, I'll leave it. That's all I can say.

You don't get it.

As long as tubes are able to make a reasonable profit, they will continue to exist - regardless of the influence they have on the rest of the industry.

Tubes with a "premium" option and lots of ads will continue to make a profit even if sales to other paysites are virtually non-existent. Adult dating, penis enlargement, gambling, dating guides, cams, biz ops, sex guides, escort listings, sex toys - there are plenty of options other than paysite sales to generate income purely based on traffic numbers.

You say nobody is going to run tubes for a few cents, but that leads to an inevitable question: why not? If something can generate enough income to cover bandwidth costs and employee costs, and generate a reasonable income on top of that, someone will run it.

/(bb|[^b]{2})/
Comment
EscortBiz

Fuck Checks, CASH only!

Join Date: May 2002

Posts: 19422
Share

Post
#21

11-13-2009, 04:45 AM

bigger problems than tubes are those who destroyed this business by robbing the customer, tens of millions of people have been robbed in the past 10 years by adult sites, these people wont join again.

Spanking, Medical Fetish, Sleeping, Strap-on Anal Lesbians, Girls Fucking Guys, Handjob site REAL HOT, Shemales, Anal and Ass Licking sites 100% Real EXCLUSIVE with amazing retention, ccbill payouts, lots of content FREE FTP HOSTING

Promote the largest and oldest member paid escort site, Converts 10 times better then any dating site, CCBill payouts

ICQ# 158802076
Comment
FrozenJag

Confirmed User

Join Date: Oct 2006

Posts: 1763
Share

Post
#22

11-13-2009, 04:50 AM

Originally posted by onwebcam

I miss my caddy
Comment
Matt 26z

So Fucking Banned

Join Date: Apr 2002

Posts: 18481
Share

Post
#23

11-13-2009, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by EscortBiz

bigger problems than tubes are those who destroyed this business by robbing the customer, tens of millions of people have been robbed in the past 10 years by adult sites, these people wont join again.

Bingo.

The free porn argument has never held water.

Every step of the way free porn has been an option for surfers. Back when members areas focused on photos, we had an absolutely endless supply of free photos on the TGPs. Yet people still bought.

I'm still waiting for someone to explain how free videos kills porn sales, yet free photos didn't do it several years ago for the photo paysites. Good luck explaining that one.

Last edited by Matt 26z; 11-13-2009, 04:58 AM.
Comment

Previous template Next

Working...