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12-09-2006, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by shap

The video didn't work for the first 15 minutes. So you had 1400+ people sitting there viewing and 100s chatting. The chat msgs were flying in faster than you could imagine (i was floored). She couldn't keep up and lost her cool. "PEOPLE BE PATIENT" her tone was just absolutely bitchy. No respect. Really treated my members like slimeballs.

OMG!!! OMG!!! you crashed their system!! OMG!! the power of your pull is amazing!! OMG!!

Shap, sorry to burst your bubble but You are obviously not familar with camz. 1400 people in chat is not uncommon, i believe it is actually average and they do more then that during prime times.

You seem real "giddy" that you think you are over whelming their network with customers but I seriously doubt the problems were a result of too many people and more likely a problem unrelated to the number of people in chat.

I know, now you are going to say I must be friends with Dan, but i only met the guy once and he provided free drinks, so for some people yes that would mean I know him and think he is top notch. But since I am not like most people here I can tell you I honestly don't know him. I used camz several years ago and just recently signed up for it again. I have had no problems and it seems like a really good concept and a great service.

As far as the employee moderating chat, when you have 1400 people chatting asking the same questions do you think it is really being rude for the person to say " PLEASE BE PATIENT ". rude would have been " SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

They had some technical problems, you come on here bashing them, sounds like you blowing it all out of porportion, and thinking you are the man cause you brought them down - which wasn't the case.

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12-09-2006, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by will76

OMG!!! OMG!!! you crashed their system!! OMG!! the power of your pull is amazing!! OMG!!

Shap, sorry to burst your bubble but You are obviously not familar with camz. 1400 people in chat is not uncommon, i believe it is actually average and they do more then that during prime times.

You seem real "giddy" that you think you are over whelming their network with customers but I seriously doubt the problems were a result of too many people and more likely a problem unrelated to the number of people in chat.

I know, now you are going to say I must be friends with Dan, but i only met the guy once and he provided free drinks, so for some people yes that would mean I know him and think he is top notch. But since I am not like most people here I can tell you I honestly don't know him. I used camz several years ago and just recently signed up for it again. I have had no problems and it seems like a really good concept and a great service.

As far as the employee moderating chat, when you have 1400 people chatting asking the same questions do you think it is really being rude for the person to say " PLEASE BE PATIENT ". rude would have been " SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

They had some technical problems, you come on here bashing them, sounds like you blowing it all out of porportion, and thinking you are the man cause you brought them down - which wasn't the case.

Will you don't own a paysite. When you do and you have paying members that believe in your product and when your product is a major brand in your niche you'll understand why i felt the way i did.

Sure maybe our 1400 people to the chat was nothing to brag about. We have no experience with cam shows. That part of my post i would edit. I still stand by everything else i said. I wouldn't retract a single comment i've made regarding our members and the admin. Anybody who wants to treat my members the way they did will not do business with us. Dan and his crew have not contacted anybody in our company. That speaks volumes about how they do business. They fucked up on this show and haven't contacted us to apologize or anything.

Like i said i'm glad i found out this week after only one day of doing business with them that they are not the type of company i want to be sending my traffic to.
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12-09-2006, 03:40 PM

Funny thing is if 1400 is such a low number the admin definitely should have been able to easily handle it. She couldn't. So she obviously was the wrong person on the wrong night for that situation.
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12-09-2006, 03:49 PM

Jeff..does Nicole have a sister and can I hit it?
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12-09-2006, 04:01 PM

1) You're right about 1 thing Shap, you don't shit about the cam business. 1400 people is nothing.

2) What was said other than "please be patient". Am I missing the rude part? Or was it the CAPS that got your panties in a bunch?

Should they stayed quiet? Let people ask the same questions 1000 times? Should they have said "please be patient" in font 6?

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12-09-2006, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by shap

Funny thing is if 1400 is such a low number the admin definitely should have been able to easily handle it. She couldn't. So she obviously was the wrong person on the wrong night for that situation.

I not defending them because I am friends with them or work for them, but what you are saying is so wrong I just feel like i have to point it out.

They were having technical problems, maybe the admin wasn't experienced with dealing with that people while experiencing problems. It sounds like they don't have problems often so this person might not have handled it well.

Maybe the admin was really mean to you, maybe your customers were rude and demanding, who knows unless they post the logs. You know the only thing you have quoted the admin as saying was " PLEASE BE PATIENT". You keep saying they were so rude but that is the only thing you said they told you .. SO what else did they say that was so rude?

Maybe Dan is more worried about his server move and the problems they were having and hasn't had the time to look at the logs to see what was said.

I can understand technical difficults happening the first time you do business with someone and that giving you a bad impression of them. To me it seems you started this thread to brag more then anything else and try to get a little exposure for yourself. And that is a totally no biased opinion for what is worth from someone who doesn't know either of you.

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12-09-2006, 04:33 PM

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Will you don't own a paysite. When you do and you have paying members that believe in your product and when your product is a major brand in your niche you'll understand why i felt the way i did.

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I love people on GFY. How in the hell do you know what I own and don't own? Why because I am not here spamming my program that means I don't own one or never have ?

FYI I built my first membership site back in 99, have built several since then all of which generated over 100K a year with no affiliates all my own traffic. Not that is a huge accomplishment but enough to tell you i've dealt with members first hand and more then a few. I shut my last membership site down when ibill went out of business.

Does this make me qualified to reply now ? Or were my sites not popular enough or make as much as yours for me not to care about my customers ?

The way you felt is one thing, what you posted here is another.

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12-09-2006, 04:48 PM

Here is your cliff notes. Sounds to me like you came running to GFY to brag more then your were worried about your members. I don't see how it helps your members any by posting here over and over and over again that you killed camz 's network! Seems like a little self promotion to me.

TITLE: Holy Shit The Power of Twistys ;) we are killing the Camz Network.

Originally posted by shap

We have just absolutely killed the Camz network. It's insane. There are more than 1400 members in the chat and i think it's capped out now LOL.

Originally posted by shap

And the Camz network doesn't seem to have been able to handle our traffic.

Originally posted by shap

I just put this up today and we are killing their network lol.

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I don't know. I think 1400 people chatting at once is making their heads spin..

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Well we proved tonight we have the power to deliver in numbers .

Originally posted by CamZ_Dan

We are in the proccess of a hosting move with half of our servers still at our old host and the other half at the new host it is a daunting task as you can imagine. 30 min prior to this show they were promoting one of our data base servers took a nose dive and we had a bottle neck.

CamZ regularly serves more then 3000 people at one time.

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12-09-2006, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by tony404

1400 is what vicky vette gets for every show she does and has no problem on camz.so that number isnt a first for them

This is true. I've seen a bunch of shows at over 1k people. I know because I do cam on Camz... I myself have never had 1400 but others have. Hope you get it all sorted out...
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12-09-2006, 05:47 PM

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12-09-2006, 05:56 PM

Yes she does...

Originally posted by dooglas

Jeff..does Nicole have a sister and can I hit it?

But she doesn't do guys... sorry! LOL.
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12-09-2006, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by Scroto

I have been to camz many times over the years and the thing that has stood out many many times is that the admin/mods are almost always....assholes

I've sat in on a couple shows and I've noticed this as well. Dealing with assholes doesn't require you to be an ass yourself.
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12-09-2006, 06:44 PM

someone named Amy is doing a cam show right now and her chat says 1001 .. no problems...everything seems to be running smooth... BTW I buy camz for my site, I do not do cam shows on it, just buy it for my members. I have been buying it for several years and sometimes they have network problems, most of the time they do not, but they often have shows with well over 1000 people in the chat...

Originally posted by MissMina

This is true. I've seen a bunch of shows at over 1k people. I know because I do cam on Camz... I myself have never had 1400 but others have. Hope you get it all sorted out...

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12-09-2006, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by will76

You know the only thing you have quoted the admin as saying was " PLEASE BE PATIENT". You keep saying they were so rude but that is the only thing you said they told you .. SO what else did they say that was so rude? .

This question has been asked a couple times by people here. Why wont shap tell us all the rude things the admin was saying ????

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12-09-2006, 10:26 PM

This turned out well.

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12-09-2006, 10:33 PM

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But she doesn't do guys... sorry! LOL.

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12-09-2006, 10:39 PM

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But she doesn't do guys... sorry! LOL.

can i atleast watch?
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12-10-2006, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by will76

This question has been asked a couple times by people here. Why wont shap tell us all the rude things the admin was saying ????

Sorry, I don't have the time to waste on gfy getting into fights. A few years ago I would have been all for it. Now I just have too much on my plate. My issue is with Camz not you and not any of Camz's loyal clients that want to defend them.

Regarding what the admin said. 99% of people on this board treat their members the way that admin did. So I can post everything she wrote and you would still think it wasn't rude. That's just you. My mistake was branding the chat with our site look. I should have made it clear the chat was run by another company and that Twistys was in no way involved with it. Lesson learned.
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12-10-2006, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by shap

My issue is with Camz not you and not any of Camz's loyal clients that want to defend them.

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So why did you post this on GFY then

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12-10-2006, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by will76

So why did you post this on GFY then

Venting. It was midnight thursday night and i felt screwed over. Again that's just me. Most site owners would not have felt the way i did and would have considered the show a huge success.
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12-10-2006, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by shap

Venting. It was midnight thursday night and i felt screwed over. Again that's just me. Most site owners would not have felt the way i did and would have considered the show a huge success.

" We just killed the camz network" The title of this thread says it all.

You have a strange way of venting.

Most people would call that bragging and self promoting but like you said you are not like 99% of the people here.

You also think someone posting to 1400 people to " PLEASE BE PATIENT" is being rude but you admit that 99% of the people here wouldn't agree with that yet you come here to post it anyway.

Thanks for finally clearing up how the admin was being rude. That was the only reason I was keeping up with this thread. You said several times how rude she was so I was curious to see what was said since I just subscribed to camz. Now I am finding out that obviously what she said wasn't that bad and your are ultra sensative.

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12-10-2006, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by shap

The video didn't work for the first 15 minutes. So you had 1400+ people sitting there viewing and 100s chatting. The chat msgs were flying in faster than you could imagine (i was floored). She couldn't keep up and lost her cool. "PEOPLE BE PATIENT" her tone was just absolutely bitchy. No respect. Really treated my members like slimeballs.

Just out of curiousity, how do you get the tone of someone out of text chat?
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12-10-2006, 10:16 AM

I've done several shows on the Camz network & rarely had under 1000 people in my shows. 1400 would not be a problem. There are usually 2 or 3 girls broadcasting at the same time too.

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12-10-2006, 10:38 AM

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12-10-2006, 01:09 PM

sounds like you guys are both self promoting yourselves in the end.
ive seen like 15 will76 threads this week.

Anyways, I like shap. I used to host and CRASH his servers back in like 98 and he got soooo pissed at me for it, I was only 18 so ..Didnt know what
I was doing.

Anyways, shap have you tried or thought about 2much.net?
or http://www.livecamnetwork.com I guess would be the main url.

They have the best technology out I've seen. It's not flash but seems like it. However, I think 1000 chats WOULD crash their servers.

But you could get your own streaming solution from them and some twistys exclusive girls, ...youd be set. CAMS, IFRIENDS, every chat site ive seen FPS is completely lame compared to livecamnetwork.com

We are launching a brand under them with HDCAMZ.com, or hdcams.tv, not sure.. Shap you should go in house dude, everybody depends on these cam sites too much. 2much has the best streaming ive seen.

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12-10-2006, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by aico

Just out of curiousity, how do you get the tone of someone out of text chat?

I suspect that when you wrote that, it had a questioning and taunting tone in your head.

it is generally pretty easy to determine the tone the author intended if you consider the context.
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12-10-2006, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by joshuawk

sounds like you guys are both self promoting yourselves in the end.
ive seen like 15 will76 threads this week.

Anyways, I like shap. I used to host and CRASH his servers back in like 98 and he got soooo pissed at me for it, I was only 18 so ..Didnt know what
I was doing.

Anyways, shap have you tried or thought about 2much.net?
or http://www.livecamnetwork.com I guess would be the main url.

They have the best technology out I've seen. It's not flash but seems like it. However, I think 1000 chats WOULD crash their servers.

But you could get your own streaming solution from them and some twistys exclusive girls, ...youd be set. CAMS, IFRIENDS, every chat site ive seen FPS is completely lame compared to livecamnetwork.com

We are launching a brand under them with HDCAMZ.com, or hdcams.tv, not sure.. Shap you should go in house dude, everybody depends on these cam sites too much. 2much has the best streaming ive seen.

Make your own, or pay me for a studio and we can launch it together

twistycams.com

LOL I haven't mentioned one thing about anything I do currently in this thread yet you say I am self promoting and then you go on to talk about the what your are doing.

Fucking GFY, never fails to dissapoint.

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