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  • Redrob
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2004
    • 4791

    #61
    Australia's Daily Telegraph:

    The postings appeared to have been made by Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who was wounded during the shootings at Fort Hood, Texas.

    Hasan was earlier thought to have been killed during the massacre.

    One of the officials said that federal search warrants were being drawn up to authorize the seizure of Hasan's computer. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case.

    One of the Web postings that authorities reviewed is a blog that equates suicide bombers with a soldier throwing himself on a grenade to save the lives of his comrades.

    "To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its (sic) more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause," said the Internet posting. "Scholars have paralled (sic) this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers."

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    • onwebcam
      Fake Nick 1.0
      • Oct 2005
      • 27689

      #62
      Originally posted by Redrob
      The spin on this will sling shit for miles.......

      It will interesting to see who get splattered.
      No shit. Multiple shooters witnessed, lone gunman, gunman has been dead for hours and now suddenly he's alive. Turning out to be a classic false flag.
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      • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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        • Jul 2004
        • 38323

        #63
        Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash
        I sort of miss the days where newsrooms actually got their stories fact checked before they went on air with 'facts'. Stories like this show how the rush to be first gets in the way of reporting an accurate story.
        Actually, the media was told by a Ft Hood spokesperson at the first news conference that the shooter was killed. The Army did not correct this, even though they knew otherwise, until another news conference about four hours later.

        The blame for this misinformation lies with the military spokesperson, not the media.

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        • Ayla_SquareTurtle
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2005
          • 3550

          #64
          Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash
          I sort of miss the days where newsrooms actually got their stories fact checked before they went on air with 'facts'. Stories like this show how the rush to be first gets in the way of reporting an accurate story.
          Can you elaborate on that? I noticed that at one point they were reporting 12 dead, then it dropped to 11. What else did they get wrong?
          gone. long gone.

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          • cykoe6
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2005
            • 4499

            #65
            Originally posted by onwebcam
            Turning out to be a classic false flag.
            Yea a classic false flag where the government fails to control the narrative and allows multiple conflicting reports to come out and muddy the waters. Nice detective work Sherlock.
            Last edited by cykoe6; 11-05-2009, 06:31 PM.
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            • mozadek
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2008
              • 1325

              #66
              Originally posted by After Shock Media
              Ah fuck you, like this had anything at all to do with Obama.

              It was a Muslim Psychiatrist (of all people, though they snap often). Apparently showed previous signs of distress and possibly was mocked a bit by others. This was before his first deployment. Considering he is still alive and not dead, we will get more info.

              As for the gun comment. Nobody aside from the MP's are walking around armed with live ammo. Especially in the area that they were in. With a trained soldier of course, surprised he was not able to kill more with two handguns. The body count could/would of been very different if it were not for the armed MP's.

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              • onwebcam
                Fake Nick 1.0
                • Oct 2005
                • 27689

                #67
                Originally posted by cykoe6
                Yea a classic false flag where the government fails to control the narrative and allows multiple conflicting reports to come out and muddy the waters. Nice detective work Sherlock.
                Oh thats right we need to wait for the "official story"

                Not only was he muslim, biochemist and a psychologist but also graduated from Virginia Tech. Hows that for a patsy if you ever seen one?
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                • Sarah_Jayne
                  Now with more Jayne
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 40077

                  #68
                  Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                  Actually, the media was told by a Ft Hood spokesperson at the first news conference that the shooter was killed. The Army did not correct this, even though they knew otherwise, until another news conference about four hours later.

                  The blame for this misinformation lies with the military spokesperson, not the media.

                  ADG
                  The alive/dead thing didn't bother me that much and I don't even blame the FBI for perhaps intentionally not saying he is alive. Especially when they were themselves starting an investigation.

                  I was following the story, obviously because of the start time of the thread, since it first broke and from there it has been nothing but speculation. Which, is not at all something unique to this story these days. It is something that I find really frustrating in this age of 24 hour news. When I went to journalism school my professors would go nuts if every fact we presented hadn't been researched. Obviously,with the need to be the first news station to broadcast a 'fact' they just don't do fact checking in breaking news things these days or at least not to the level they should. So, you have the guy's name in the wrong order for ages, you have speculation on where he was deployed, when..his religion, how long he has been following that religion, etc. All things which spending a decent time developing a story off the air would negate or at least if you got it wrong it wasn't for not trying your best. They go live on air with guests they should have done more screening on. They take calls from so-called witnesses that get air time even though they are simply somebody who lives nearby that knows somebody that somebody told something to.

                  It is just the way things are now but drives me nuts. I am a news junkie and I love the buzz of a breaking story but I like getting researched reporting rather than just people filling air time until they can report a 'fact'.

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                  • onwebcam
                    Fake Nick 1.0
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 27689

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash
                    The alive/dead thing didn't bother me that much and I don't even blame the FBI for perhaps intentionally not saying he is alive. Especially when they were themselves starting an investigation.

                    I was following the story, obviously because of the start time of the thread, since it first broke and from there it has been nothing but speculation. Which, is not at all something unique to this story these days. It is something that I find really frustrating in this age of 24 hour news. When I went to journalism school my professors would go nuts if every fact we presented hadn't been researched. Obviously,with the need to be the first news station to broadcast a 'fact' they just don't do fact checking in breaking news things these days or at least not to the level they should. So, you have the guy's name in the wrong order for ages, you have speculation on where he was deployed, when..his religion, how long he has been following that religion, etc. All things which spending a decent time developing a story off the air would negate or at least if you got it wrong it wasn't for not trying your best. They go live on air with guests they should have done more screening on. They take calls from so-called witnesses that get air time even though they are simply somebody who lives nearby that knows somebody that somebody told something to.

                    It is just the way things are now but drives me nuts. I am a news junkie and I love the buzz of a breaking story but I like getting researched reporting rather than just people filling air time until they can report a 'fact'.
                    That's because the story was fed to them by the government. They are "repeaters" not "reporters"
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                    • onwebcam
                      Fake Nick 1.0
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 27689

                      #70
                      Looking like they needed to silence the "lone shooter"

                      The gunman who killed 12 people today at Ft. Hood appears, based on current media reports, to be Army psychiatrist Nidal Hasan who was listed as a participant in a Homeland Security Policy Institute's presidential transition task force last year.

                      The task force was not officially affiliated with the White House. It was a project of the Homeland Security Policy Institute, an independent thinktank housed at George Washington University, aimed at drafting policy recommendations for the incoming Obama administration.

                      According to the task force's May 2009 report [pdf], a "Nidal Hasan" from the Uniformed Services University School of Medicine was a task force event participant. Other participants included Senate and House staffers, Department of Homeland Security officials, Defense Department officials, and reporters for Politico, the Washington Post, and the London Times.

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                      • After Shock Media
                        It's coming look busy
                        • Mar 2001
                        • 35299

                        #71
                        Fuck me you conspiracy people are fucking weird and fast to draw one up.

                        Watch, he had the secret to H1N1 and was going to blow it open.

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                        • onwebcam
                          Fake Nick 1.0
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 27689

                          #72
                          Originally posted by After Shock Media
                          Fuck me you conspiracy people are fucking weird and fast to draw one up.

                          Watch, he had the secret to H1N1 and was going to blow it open.
                          Use some common sense. They've been saying all day this guy was dead and some army reject but now that it's coming out he's recently been promoted and was on a homeland security think tank for the incoming president it's kind of hard to paint him as a homegrown terrorist don't ya think?

                          I'm sure they are going to try and keep on spinning it though. I'd lay money on this guy never making it to trial but first he's not going to remember much, if anything, about what went on today.
                          Last edited by onwebcam; 11-05-2009, 07:17 PM.
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                          • LoveSandra
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 10551

                            #73
                            its fucked up

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                            • Ayla_SquareTurtle
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 3550

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle
                              Can you elaborate on that? I noticed that at one point they were reporting 12 dead, then it dropped to 11. What else did they get wrong?
                              Nevermind, just read the more recent reports. Crazy.
                              gone. long gone.

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                              • onwebcam
                                Fake Nick 1.0
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 27689

                                #75
                                Lone gunman eh? And how did this mutherfucker get 2.5 miles away from a secure base after a mass shooting?

                                (CNN) -- A senior officer who was playing golf Thursday near Fort Hood, Texas, told CNN he witnessed the arrest of one of the two surviving suspects of the shooting at the Army installation.

                                Shortly after the shooting, the officer said, military police told him to clear the course and he saw other MPs surround the building that held the golf carts, he said.

                                The senior officer said he ducked into a nearby house for cover as 30 to 40 cars carrying MPs approached.

                                He said he saw a soldier in battle-dress uniform, his hands in the air. The MPs ordered him to lie on the ground and open his uniform, presumably to ensure he was not carrying explosives, the senior officer said.

                                He said an MP told him that authorities considered the man to be a suspect in the shootings after having overheard the man say he was with the shooter.

                                The man was surrounded for 25 to 30 minutes, until a convoy of vehicles arrived, led by a Ford Crown Victoria and carrying men in suits, and he was taken away, the senior officer said.

                                The golf course is about 2.5 miles from Fort Hood, the officer told CNN.

                                http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/05/...ood.witnesses/
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