Capital Punishment - for it or against it?

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  • cwd
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2006
    • 1955

    #46
    No, I am against it and here is why. I want them to suffer, and giving them death is too quick in my book. No, I want them to suffer. Bring back the chain gang. I want them breaking rocks, cutting trees, picking up garbage on the side of the road...all fricken day long, every single day, for the rest of their lives. No fucking TV, no lifting weights, NOTHING for them to look forward to. And only enough food and water so they can keep working. And I want them working in an area where they can see cars of people on their way to work or home, so they are reminded every day of what they are missing. Plus, it gives others a chance to see what they will be doing for the rest of their lives if they commit a crime like that. I want them to suffer...

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    • Poindexterity
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2008
      • 882

      #47
      i voted against, but i need to qualify that by saying:
      if the system didn't convict so many innocent people, i'd be all for it. burn the weeds to make room for the trees, i say.
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      • american pervert
        Confirmed User
        • Sep 2002
        • 6840

        #48
        Originally posted by The Demon
        I rest my case.
        no you don't

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        • CDSmith
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • May 2001
          • 51460

          #49
          I support it only for those certain cases of serial rape/murder where there is zero doubt the person did it. Zero, as in none. The Dahmers and Pictons and Bernardos of the world really don't deserve to breath air and eat food like the rest of us.

          For me it's not about it being a deterrent either, but more about ridding society of the worst scum imagineable and making sure that that scum has zero chance of doing what they did ever again.

          It's easy to oppose the death penalty until it's your own kid or your own wife, parent, brother, sister etc that was horribly murdered, raped and killed, mutilated etc by some sick whacko. Personally I feel sorry for the families of such victims, who have to live the rest of their lives knowing their loved one's killer is alive and has the possibility of finding even the least little enjoyment of life while in prison. No north American prison is harsh enough for these specific criminals.

          In Canada, for someone like Paul Bernardo and his nutjob girlfriend I'd have gladly pushed the plunger on the syringe personally. We are way too soft on scum here.
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          • Tom_PM
            Porn Meister
            • Feb 2005
            • 16443

            #50
            Just think of those words your dear relatives said to you in comfort at your loved ones funerals, and remember that someone will be saying those same words about the person killed by death penalty.

            He's in a better place where there is no more pain, no more suffering. He's finally free.

            What about "closure"? Yeah point us to all those wonderful tales of how closure made someones life complete again. I'm sure those links will come pouring in.
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            • The Demon
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2003
              • 7336

              #51
              Originally posted by cwd
              No, I am against it and here is why. I want them to suffer, and giving them death is too quick in my book. No, I want them to suffer. Bring back the chain gang. I want them breaking rocks, cutting trees, picking up garbage on the side of the road...all fricken day long, every single day, for the rest of their lives. No fucking TV, no lifting weights, NOTHING for them to look forward to. And only enough food and water so they can keep working. And I want them working in an area where they can see cars of people on their way to work or home, so they are reminded every day of what they are missing. Plus, it gives others a chance to see what they will be doing for the rest of their lives if they commit a crime like that. I want them to suffer...
              You DO realize that most people that commit capital murder are habitual offenders, or at the very least, criminals who have no problems going to prison, right? Ignorant people seem to think that "oh sending him to prison is more punishment" but all they do in prison is sell drugs, form gangs, and kill people.
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              • Tom_PM
                Porn Meister
                • Feb 2005
                • 16443

                #52
                Yes, all prisoners sell drugs, form gangs and kill people behind bars.


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                • Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE

                  #53
                  Originally posted by xxxjay
                  I did 6 months in prison, I still have nightmares about it. Do even half that much and reconsider what you just said.
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                  Pay a guy to shoot a murderer or child molester? I would pay to have the privilege of being an executioner.

                  I have a solution for the national debt. Raffle off chances to be the one to kill a serial killer or child molester. I'd kick in $100 or so a week to buy tickets. Then you could make the spectacle a pay per view television event with DVD sales to follow. You could sell hats and t-shirts too. We'd have the economy and justice system fixed in a few years.

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                  • kane
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 20684

                    #54
                    Originally posted by The Demon
                    Heard this argument before. There's NO causation and almost no correlation between the numbers. They have nothing to do with the death penalty. The numbers don't even make sense if you try to correlate them. The analogy works because the system for capital punishment is faulty.
                    I guess my point in all of this is that I am not a fan of continuing to do something even when it doesn't work. The numbers don't lie. Having the death penalty does not lower the crime rate or reduce the number of capitol crimes. So unless there is some way for us to un-politicize the process where both sides are completely honest during the court case so we can be a certain as possible that the accused is guilty then we won't be reducing the legal process surrounding the death penalty any time soon.

                    If it doesn't work, doesn't change anything and the process isn't going to be changing anytime soon then why continue to do it and waste the money?

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                    • Libertine
                      sex dwarf
                      • May 2002
                      • 17860

                      #55
                      I would be all for it if it were carried out consistently: same standards for everyone.

                      That means that if someone who got executed was later found to be innocent, all those responsible would get prosecuted for kidnapping and premeditated murder. Politicians, judge, jury, police, voters, etc.

                      And, of course, "we thought he was guilty" isn't an acceptable defense - just like "I accidentally killed the wrong guy" isn't a defense in any other murder case.

                      I think they should have a referendum on it. People get to vote on whether they want the death penalty to be used or not, and if they vote in favor, then they will be held responsible the moment it is found out that an innocent person got executed.
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                      • The Demon
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 7336

                        #56
                        Originally posted by PR_Tom
                        Yes, all prisoners sell drugs, form gangs and kill people behind bars.


                        sigh
                        Yes because this is EXACTLY what I said. Dumbass

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                        • The Demon
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 7336

                          #57
                          Originally posted by kane
                          I guess my point in all of this is that I am not a fan of continuing to do something even when it doesn't work. The numbers don't lie. Having the death penalty does not lower the crime rate or reduce the number of capitol crimes. So unless there is some way for us to un-politicize the process where both sides are completely honest during the court case so we can be a certain as possible that the accused is guilty then we won't be reducing the legal process surrounding the death penalty any time soon.

                          If it doesn't work, doesn't change anything and the process isn't going to be changing anytime soon then why continue to do it and waste the money?
                          I see your point only to some extent. The real point is that certain people deserve death and we should give it to them.
                          Greed is Good

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                          • kane
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Aug 2001
                            • 20684

                            #58
                            Originally posted by The Demon
                            I see your point only to some extent. The real point is that certain people deserve death and we should give it to them.
                            I can't argue against that. For example. I feel that anyone who molests/sexually abuses kids can't be rehabilitated. They are just defective people and can't be let loose in society. People like that do deserve death.

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                            • brassmonkey
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                              • Sep 2005
                              • 77396

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Killswitch
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                              • Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE

                                #60
                                Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                so much anger did you punch that space behind your bedroom door j/k that was funny as hell
                                I've had friends that spent a lengthy time in federal pound me in the ass prison. My uncle was in prison for 6 years, went in a skinny little punk and came out a fatass... Said all he did was sit in his cell, read, watch tv, go eat breakfast, lunch, and supper, went outside, went to the gym, showered, did some light work for the prison, and spent 6 years not having to worry about any bills, taxes, living expenses, or if he was gonna be able to afford to eat something that day.

                                He actually only worried about winning a hand of poker where someone bet a couple of packs of smokes, so he would have his cigarettes for the week.

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