Capital Punishment - for it or against it?

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  • OY
    Industry Pioneer
    • Oct 2002
    • 5401

    #31
    Originally posted by baddog
    Seems to work in places like Saudi Arabia.

    RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to behead and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five children and leaving one of them to die in the desert, newspapers reported on Tuesday.

    The convict was arrested earlier this year after a seven-year old boy helped police in their investigation. The child left in the desert after the rape was three years old, Okaz newspaper said.

    International rights groups have accused the kingdom, the birthplace of Islam, of applying draconian justice, beheading murderers, rapists and drug traffickers in public. So far this year about 40 people have been executed in Saudi Arabia.

    In Saudi Arabia, crucifixion means tying the body of the convict to wooden beams to be displayed to the public after beheading.
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    • brassmonkey
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      • Sep 2005
      • 77396

      #32
      Originally posted by xxxjay
      I did 6 months in prison, I still have nightmares about it. Do even half that much and reconsider what you just said.
      u mean prison not county right
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      • american pervert
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        • Sep 2002
        • 6840

        #33
        Originally posted by The Demon
        Rofl, so if someone who's a skinny nerd kills someone you know, we shouldn't lock them up because you're mad at them? This is hilarious. We should lock up those who pose a threat to society, and kill those who don't deserve to live after committing their crimes.
        are you a tard?

        murder = jail for sure and by scared of i mean, has committed a violent act.

        no need to have drug addicts and theives in jail. beat the shit out of them and send them home. seems to work in singapore pretty well, but they tend to kill non violent ppl too.
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        • baddog
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 107089

          #34
          Originally posted by Oystein
          RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to behead and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five children and leaving one of them to die in the desert, newspapers reported on Tuesday.

          The convict was arrested earlier this year after a seven-year old boy helped police in their investigation. The child left in the desert after the rape was three years old, Okaz newspaper said.

          International rights groups have accused the kingdom, the birthplace of Islam, of applying draconian justice, beheading murderers, rapists and drug traffickers in public. So far this year about 40 people have been executed in Saudi Arabia.

          In Saudi Arabia, crucifixion means tying the body of the convict to wooden beams to be displayed to the public after beheading.
          I like their style. I had some friends stationed there for a year or so (airlines). They got pushed to the front of the crowd for a beheading. People wanted them to see Islamic justice.

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          • The Demon
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2003
            • 7336

            #35
            Originally posted by american pervert
            are you a tard?

            murder = jail for sure and by scared of i mean, has committed a violent act.

            no need to have drug addicts and theives in jail. beat the shit out of them and send them home. seems to work in singapore pretty well, but they tend to kill non violent ppl too.
            Did you even read what I said? Before calling me a tard, make sure you don't embarrass yourself with your poor reading comprehension skills.
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            • The Demon
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2003
              • 7336

              #36
              Originally posted by kane
              Then we go back to the issue that I am against. If we are going to put people to death we need to make sure that they are guilty even if we expedite it and make it happen within a year of them being arrested. Until they take politics out of the death penalty and all they care about is making sure they get the right guy then we are going to end up locked in that merry go round of legal garbage and all of that costs a ton of money.
              Yes I agree, the problem is with the system of capital punishment, not capital punishment itself.

              When you get away from the legal system then you risk killing innocent people. I know that there no perfect system, but I don't think we need a system where we know that we are sometimes putting innocent people to death all in the name of speedy kills so we can deter people from committing capitol crimes.
              Right, but I think it's also a travesty if we let capital murderers live. It's a blatant insult against the victim and his family.

              Also, I don't buy your analogy either. Look at the numbers. On average states that have no death penalty have a lower rate of capitol crimes than those that have the death penalty. That is simple fact. They have no deterrent of death to keep people from committing these crimes, yet somehow the rates of those crimes is lower. Why is that?
              Heard this argument before. There's NO causation and almost no correlation between the numbers. They have nothing to do with the death penalty. The numbers don't even make sense if you try to correlate them. The analogy works because the system for capital punishment is faulty.
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              • Fletch XXX
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                • Jan 2002
                • 60840

                #37
                kill everyone. especially pornographers and pot smokers
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                • american pervert
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                  • Sep 2002
                  • 6840

                  #38
                  Originally posted by The Demon
                  Did you even read what I said? Before calling me a tard, make sure you don't embarrass yourself with your poor reading comprehension skills.
                  when i scared of something it had nothing to do with what someone physically looks like.

                  and if some skinny geek shot my friend, maybe i would worry, weren't those columbine teens future gfyers.

                  so yes, you are still tarded.
                  Last edited by american pervert; 11-04-2009, 06:25 AM.
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                  • The Demon
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 7336

                    #39
                    Originally posted by american pervert
                    when i scared of something it had nothing to do with what someone physically looks like.

                    and if some skinny geek shot my friend, maybe i would worry, weren't those columbine teens future gfyers.

                    so yes, you are still tarded.

                    I rest my case.
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                    • BradM
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 3397

                      #40
                      Originally posted by SleazyDream
                      i'm for it but with a LONG and lengthy process to have it enacted and only for

                      a. more than one murder with decreasing wait time till death on every additional murder
                      b. repeat child molesters for kids under 12
                      brb molesting and raping 19 13 year olds.

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                      • xNetworx
                        So Fucking What
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 14445

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Killswitch
                        For every case like that, there are 100's that are real murders and shit living off our tax dollars enjoying 3 meals a day, a bed to sleep in, entertainment, and outside time, while us tax payers get fucked in the ass, lose our houses, and cars because we can't afford to pay them anymore, and also starve...

                        Sometimes it just seems easier murdering someone just so you can live your life and not worry about waking up in a ditch starving and cold...
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                        • Babaganoosh
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                          • Nov 2001
                          • 15841

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Killswitch


                          When did a single bullet, and 10 minutes of 1 persons time cost over $32k?

                          Last year, they said it costs $32,952.20 just to house 1 inmate per year... 1 bullet costs pennies, and you can pay a guy $1k to put that bullet in the mother fuckers head... Save thousands of dollars a year, per inmate.
                          Pay a guy to shoot a murderer or child molester? I would pay to have the privilege of being an executioner.

                          I have a solution for the national debt. Raffle off chances to be the one to kill a serial killer or child molester. I'd kick in $100 or so a week to buy tickets. Then you could make the spectacle a pay per view television event with DVD sales to follow. You could sell hats and t-shirts too. We'd have the economy and justice system fixed in a few years.
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                          • Matt 26z
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 18481

                            #43
                            I support it, but there is no doubt that innocent people have been executed.

                            We need to have seperate standards of guilt that are tougher than "beyond a reasonable doubt" for there to be an execution. There needs to be 100% undeniable proof. When there is that kind of evidence, I do not believe there should even be an appeals process. Just take the killer into a room next door after the ruling and get it over with right then.

                            We also need to expand what crimes are eligible for death. For instance if a drunk driver with a dozen DUI arrests finally kills someone, they should be executed.
                            Last edited by Matt 26z; 11-04-2009, 08:17 AM.

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                            • BradM
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 3397

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                              Pay a guy to shoot a murderer or child molester? I would pay to have the privilege of being an executioner.

                              I have a solution for the national debt. Raffle off chances to be the one to kill a serial killer or child molester. I'd kick in $100 or so a week to buy tickets. Then you could make the spectacle a pay per view television event with DVD sales to follow. You could sell hats and t-shirts too. We'd have the economy and justice system fixed in a few years.
                              Idiocracy already thought of this.

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                              • TurboAngel
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                                • Jun 2003
                                • 30122

                                #45
                                I'm for it.

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